Quote from: Thrillho on June 23, 2016, 02:55:49 PM

Quote from: daren on June 21, 2016, 03:49:30 AM

You could be right, something important must compel him to insult the girl who controls his access to the Lodge refridgerator/parties.

Ha, you're right, it would be in Jughead's best interest to suck up to Veronica, but we wouldn't have the antagonistic relationship we love.

Quote from: daren on June 21, 2016, 03:49:30 AM

I like to see her succeed at some things too, but cooking is so unimportant I don't care about it. I mean it's great if people DO know how to cook but it's no reflection on your intellect or character. Yeah the bad-cook-Veronica stories aren't that believable, cooking isn't rocket science, but if you look at those stories as fantasy/cartoon situations they work.

I didn't say that right, I meant that if you DON'T know how to cook it's no reflection on your intellect or character, of course if you know how to cook it means you have skills (not to brag but I'm pretty good at it myself), it's just that it's not needed.

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It's just one of my pet peeves when capable adults can't handle feeding themselves and I'm just projecting.  This doesn't really apply to Veronica since she's perpetually a teenager and isn't on her own but I get so annoyed in relationships when the other person isn't capable of seemingly doing anything.   

Oh yeah been there done that  . Well I think Ronnie's best when she does make mistakes a lot, she's more cute and sympathetic that way and thats what makes her the funniest Archie girl but there should be more hints that under all her effeduppedness there's the budding brilliance at business she inherited from her dad, the thing that makes all the generations of Lodges great tycoons in spite of their problems. That's how I like to see it anyway, I like that the girl who can't even boil an egg like a proper female might blossom into a financial mastermind who owns half the world (and still doesn't know how to boil an egg).

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I think a bit of this story was posted upthread but here's the whole thing.



I think the ending is really clever and goes to show that Jughead really does care for Ronnie, he wasn't even too keen on her reward.

Awesome story, ending, beginning, everything! They should put it in a book!

I'm starting to think the delays are on purpose. Roberto said last year he was the holdup and I guess he was right, I thought maybe he was taking the fall so ACP wouldn't look bad but no, they've been putting out their other books on time this past year. Unless the delays are Francesco's, but if they're Roberto's why are they happening at all. Story and dialogue as simple and short as Afterlife's shouldn't take that long to write even if he has other things going on. I'm not saying that means it sucks, even though it is overrated I still like it okay and it's better than Life With Archie which was more complex and ambitious, but you would think LWA would be the book with delays, it must have been harder to write, instead it's Afterlife? I can't think of any reason why that would be unless it IS on purpose.

Yeah there was one story where he went out with her, she looked hot and he was shocked.

Betty/Reggie fan art from tumblr, I saved the comments too, they're cute.

This looks cute, Holly G has a new book people can get for five dollars a month at patreon about two friends who decide to eat their way through Disneyland.


https://www.patreon.com/sweetadventures?ty=h

no Betty, what are you doing?? don't cater to that smiling ******! 

Here's Veronica striking first and Jughead striking back!










Strange story.

Quote from: Thrillho on June 14, 2016, 01:30:19 PM

I agree somewhat. A lot of times he has it in for Veronica because she's treating Betty or Archie unfairly, but you're right, he's more likely start something without provocation than she is.

Here is a good example





And of course, Jughead is behind it all



That's why I think Midge's assessment in "Object of Affection" might be true, that Jughead wants attention from Veronica, at least in Dan Parent's stories, while she's more content to just ignore him.

You could be right, something important must compel him to insult the girl who controls his access to the Lodge refridgerator/parties.

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Quote from: daren on June 14, 2016, 03:46:24 AM
I like Ronnie as a bad cook better though, it's funnier..

It works for gags and such but half of me thinks it's silly sometimes. I just read a story where Veronica made a cake disaster because she messed with the ingredients due to her ignorance about baking e.g. putting a stick of butter in milk instead of using buttermilk, and that works for me but a lot just have her as a bad cook with no explanation. I don't know, just one of my pet peeves, I think Veronica, or anyone really, is smart enough to follow through with a recipe with some guidance. She's my favorite character so of course I want to see her succeed more often than not.

I like to see her succeed at some things too, but cooking is so unimportant I don't care about it. I mean it's great if people DO know how to cook but it's no reflection on your intellect or character. Yeah the bad-cook-Veronica stories aren't that believable, cooking isn't rocket science, but if you look at those stories as fantasy/cartoon situations they work.

I should make a new da account, I shut down the old one a long time ago.


Here's a panel from a story where Betty's getting new hairstyles.

Quote from: Jabroniville on June 20, 2016, 01:46:28 AM
It's generally been known to happen that the Archie characters have shifted greatly over the years- often becoming much nicer (and perhaps more well-rounded) characters at the expense of conflict and humor. Whether or not this is a good thing is a matter of debate.

So I'm curious as to which version of the following characters do you prefer?



ARCHIE: A) The scheming bastard of the 1940s; B) The befuddled, clumsy loser of most other eras; C) The all-around nice guy.

I thought Archie was a befuddled loser in the 1940s then became a scheming bastard in the 1950s or '60s? Either one is okay.

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JUGHEAD: A) The woman-hating, somewhat-vicious schemer of the old days- constantly belittled and insulted women; B) The Jughead seen in the NUMEROUS "Jughead gets a girl" storylines (Joanie & Debbie, Anita Chavita, Sandy Sanchez, etc.); C) The anti-romance character who can still hang out with women (such as his friendship with Betty).

Anything except B, I accept Jughead isn't all aromantic but I don't know how they should show that side of him. Not the way they did it. I haven't read all these stories but from I saw they werent that good.

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VERONICA: A) Straight-up selfish villainess ('40s & Mark Waid Reboot); B) The Jerk with a Heart of Gold character (mostly seen in and after the '60s); C) The nicer, more down-to-earth one of the '90s-2000s era (where her major conflicts are things like figuring out which charity to pursue).

I thought she was a nice girl although a spoiled flirt in the '40s and then became a jerk in the '60s? I like the '90s-2000s best because Dan Parent draws her, girls who look cute and innocent when they're doing bad are the best, and she still did a lot of bad with her selfish underhanded side even in that era. I like the '60s to '80s too though, she's great in all decades except maybe the one we're in now, the Afterlife and reboot Veronica isn't so much a villain as a head case so far.

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BETTY COOPER: A) The scheming, somewhat-dim loser ('40s & '50s); B) The All-Around Girl-Next-Door Nice Girl Tomboy (most eras)

The nice Betty. The scheming Betty was a stalker, it was funny sometimes but due to personal experience I don't like stalkers even when they're funny. Male or female. Besides nice Betty contrasts better with Veronica.

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REGGIE MANTLE: A) Outright villain whom just about everyone hates; B) Jerk With a Heart of Gold, who still hangs out with the gang.

Both of them are great. But he shouldn't be TOO nice (coughMichaelUslancough) or too much of a dick (coughFrankDoylecough).

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CHERYL BLOSSOM: A) The super-selfish and obnoxious villain ('80s & her return); B) Veronica-Lite "Actually deep-down really nice" character (from her solo book).

Either one.

I must have cut out too many panels, sorry it was misleading but Reggie doesn't pay her bill, he's just paying his own. Pop tells Betty that it's okay to put it on her tab. If they were at a different place Reggie would probably give her the money but he knows Pop will give her credit so he doesn't step up. I don't think she would have accepted his money anyway after that speech. Yeah I've never seen Jughead be mean to Betty, I hope I never do. It's funny when he snarls at Veronica but if he did it to Betty it would look horrible.

Quote from: Thrillho on June 13, 2016, 02:37:45 PM
HA! Great story! Back when Veronica was a good cook, I see.  Does anyone else remember a story where Jughead eats candies Veronica made but they were really bird treats?

Yeah and not only did Jughead like her food but her father expected to, he must know she's a good cook in that story. I like Ronnie as a bad cook better though, it's funnier. I never saw the bird treat story.

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Maybe, sometimes Veronica doesn't have to do anything for her to earn Jughead's wrath but it can be the other way around too. Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, Jug's gotta annoy Veronica, especially if Dan Parent writes it.

Maybe she doesn't put up with a LOT more, but, more. In most Archie feuds the villain character IS the offender more (Betty vs. Veronica, Archie vs. Reggie, Jughead vs. Reggie), but with Jughead and Veronica, he does seem to sin against her more than the reverse, I never noticed how much till I started paying attention to these stories.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 12, 2016, 01:16:37 AM
I suspect they are just keeping Dan Parent employed for as long as it takes to use up the inventory of already-purchased scripts.

In that case he might be there till the end, the George Gladir inventory scripts alone must be a foot high, there's also the new Kevin book for him to work on. But as you've said before the end is probably very near if it isn't happening already, maybe Veritas owns the company now for all practical purposes.

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Quote from: SAGG on June 09, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
Okay, why does this reboot comic NOT look like the TV show, or more importantly, the TV show NOT look like the reboot comic?? Will somebody please explain this to me?? Maybe the writers/artists didn't get the memo, I say sarcastically...

i have no idea...Josie's Black and a stuck arrogant crybaby

Stuck and arrogant yeah, how is she a crybaby?

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who doesn't even want to record any songs despite being the lead singer of a rock band...

No it was songs by Archie that she didn't want to record because he's a white guy. The production team's wonderful idea to make her a racist. 

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 13, 2016, 08:11:06 PM

Regardless of what that ArchieComics.com article on Bolling claims, I still haven't seen any of Bolling's new stories in any recent digests (past 6 months or so), so I'm dubious about the veracity of that claim. Unless there are new Little Archie stories (someone else will have to field this one) in some of the digests (which I skip entirely as a matter of course) ... but I think not, since I'm fairly certain they'd make a point of playing that fact up in solicitation copy.

Six months or even a year isn't that long ago, recent enough that we could still expect to see a script from him as long as the digests feature new stories. He's mostly retired now, when he did his last one the publicity sounded like he didn't always feel like doing them.

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I still abide by my theory that they're in the process of trying to wean classic Archie fans off new stories in digests and onto the rebooted series. Advertising has been running about 3 or 4 full-page "New Riverdale" ads per digest issue in the past 6 months or so.

"Trying" probably isn't the right word, they must know by this point it isn't going to work.