Quote from: Ottawagrant on August 26, 2016, 07:34:37 PM
Just want to add to this: TV shows from this era, once they enter syndication, get messy. For exampe: Total Television's 'Underdog', 'Tennessee Tuxedo & His tales' & 'King Leonardo & his short Subjects'. I have 2 x 16mm copies of Network Prints, with original commercials, of 'Tennessee Tuxedo'. I know they're not original run prints because each contain a 'Commander McBragg' episode & a 'King Leonardo' short'. Plus the General Mills commercials are with 'Rocky & Bullwinkle', a Jay Ward Production.  When you watch the 1/2 hour prints on the DVD set of 'Archie's Funhouse' watch the 'Giant Jukebox' parts. Some episodes have 1, some 3. As mentioned above, in their original hour run they each contained 2 x Sabrina cartoons. There is a push on the get 'Underdog' restored to its original NBC run. The DVD sets, while nice to have, are nothing like the original run. Tennesse Tuxedo is worse! They used the original cartoon opening credits, with a different theme song! The Horror! Quick trivia note: The voice of Commander McBragg is veteran Radio voice 'Kenny Delmar'. Kenny Delmar was famous on the 'Fred Allen Show' as a character known as Senator Beauregard Claghorn. Warner Brothers copied the voice as 'Foghorn Leghorn' & then tried to sue Delmar for copywrite infringement. They lost. Well (As Fred Allen used to say) let's head down Allen's Alley & see who we meet. . .

I always look at DVD sets skeptically. The original Transformers cartoon was released twice on DVD, each time by a different company. The first time, the company used 35mm film prints of the episodes that they've discovered. (The series' broadcast masters were on 16mm video tape.) They thought they were giving the fans a treat by presenting Transformers better than it's ever looked. Well, as it turned out, the 35mm film prints were incomplete workprints. A lot of errors had been fixed by the time that the episodes aired, so the company unknowingly made public a bunch of errors that were never meant to be seen.

On top of that, they took it upon themselves to "fix" some "errors" (which weren't). Also, they wanted to remix the originally mono soundtrack into 5.1 surround sound for whatever reason. They hired a third-party company to add a bunch of new sound effects to the audio and then, when called out on it, claimed these sound effects had always been there; you just couldn't hear them until their brand-new, awesome 5.1 mix.

Finally, they seemed to recreate the closing credits sequences from scratch (I guess the workprints didn't contain them). Some actors' names were misspelled. The original three-part series premiere used a different animation sequence, but the standard one appeared on the DVD set. Also, on some season 1 episodes, the season 2 credits appeared over the season 1 animation sequence, which has absolutely no basis in historical reality.

When the series was re-released, the new company...did pretty much the exact same thing (except for the 5.1 mix and the added sound effects). They claimed the 16mm broadcast masters were too damaged to use, so they used the 35mm film workprints and then consulted YouTube videos of old VHS footage to fix any workprint errors that had been fixed prior to airing but left the "nostalgic" errors intact. Same mess with the closing credits.

I read on Wikipedia about the mess with the Filmation Archie DVDs. Sourced from PAL? Really? Footage missing? No thanks.

I just stumbled upon this gem in SAGG's gallery:

Quote from: The Downloader on August 26, 2016, 03:46:24 AM
I have the 1962 pilot on my computer.  I'll try and see if there is still a copy on YT.  If not, ill figure out a way to upload it.  pilottv.net is a good site for finding old pilots.  They have their own Roku channel.

Maybe you could upload it as an unlisted video and share the link here.

Thanks for the info! Someone needs to update that IMDb page. Interesting that Cheryl as Betty was the only consistency. In fact, now that I think about it, that fact sounds familiar. I wonder if maybe I read your cast list somewhere years ago.

I really want to see both of these pilots.

There were two pilots for an Archie TV series in the 1960s: "Life With Archie" in 1962 and "Archie" in 1964. The two pilots share much of the same cast, but Frank Bank starred in "Life With Archie", and John Simpson starred in "Archie". According to Frank Bank, the pilot was not picked up because the sponsors felt that viewers would still see him as "Lumpy" from "Leave It to Beaver".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1064965/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0777187/

I don't know of anyone that's seen the 1962 pilot. I know people have seen the 1964 pilot, and I've seen the first third of it, but it's no longer on YouTube (except for a short clip).

Does anyone have either of these pilots?

Thanks for the info!

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 24, 2016, 09:48:33 PM
Archie's Funhouse is on DVD, so I don't know what needs explaining.

Plenty, since, according to Wikipedia, there are missing episodes and missing/lost footage:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Archie_Show#Home_release

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 24, 2016, 09:48:33 PM
Why would you expect the documenting and indexing of these shows to be any better than the comics?

Probably because there's far less of them.

I'm compiling an episode list of all of the Filmation episodes, and I want to make sure that I have all of them.

Wikipedia says "The U.S. of Archie" aired repeats until September of 1976, but "The New Archie and Sabrina Hour" didn't premiere until September 10, 1977. Did any Archie cartoons air in the 1976-1977 season?

I was just reading the entries for the various series on Wikipedia, and it's...incomplete (to say the least). I was wondering if someone could provide detailed info on these episodes, especially regarding which episodes were later recycled into which later packages, what the "Archie and His New Pals" 1969 TV special was about, and exactly what "Archie's Funhouse" (1970) and "Everything's Archie" (1973) consisted of.

The first review is up: an episode of the old-time radio show.

Next week might be the 1964 pilot - if I can get a hold of a full copy in time (please let me know if you have it). Otherwise, I'll review a Filmation episode.

I'd like to call in before the final episode.

Also, please leave the archive up for posterity.

Finally, maybe use the blog, since it's there anyway, to post text updates of news and new releases, so we'll still know what's going on in the world of Archie.

I have created a new weekly blog dedicated to reviewing episodes of Archie television series - namely "Riverdale" (once it premieres), "The New Archies", and "Archie's Weird Mysteries". Those will be the three primary series. In addition, I'll touch on various other series without reviewing them in full and also take on the 1960s pilot, the 1970s special, the 1990 movie, Jugman, and the Josie movie.

This blog is in the style of various other episode-review blogs, such as Full House Reviewed, Saved by the Bell...Reviewed, ALF Reviews, Ranger Retrospective, Warp Speed to Nonsense, and my own Hey Dude Reviewed (which just finished).

Warning for language:

http://riverdalereviewed.wordpress.com

I'm disappointed that they're bringing back Pembrooke. Why bother having two different schools? Heck, they're moving Josie and the Pussycats to Riverdale to be in line with the movie.

You mean she's gonna be in the rebooted titles?

Some things to keep in mind when planning a title:

The amount of time in a teen's week that's spent at school versus at home (and awake). When I went to school, I rode the bus, so that was around an extra hour on each side of the school day, because there were so many side streets to go down. Also, sometimes the driver had to talk with parents at the bus stop or just stop the bus to make/take a call over the radio. Sometimes, that meant getting to school late or back home later than usual. Going by my foggy memories, It seems roughly 7-4 was bus/school, and then 4-10 was home (had to go to bed early and get up around 6). At school (roughly 8-3), there were homeroom, seven periods, lunch, and a few minutes between each to get to your next location. I'd say, in a given week, roughly 40% of my waking time was bus/school, and the other 60% was home (including getting ready for school and studying/homework). Of course, I never did any extra-curricular activities.

These days, teens (and kids) tend to spend time with each other on social media or a gaming platform, which lessens the need for them to "hang out" with each other in person, and they certainly wouldn't be hanging out at the mall or the local soda shop / burger joint. Honestly, based on what I've read while browsing teen forums, if girls are hanging out with their friends (whether male or female), they're likely having sex (of every imaginable kind) and drinking their parents' liquor.

Ha, I remember seeing this page years ago and thinking Josie was grabbing a handful as well.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 12, 2016, 03:57:37 PM
Since it's about a girl pop band, I'm sure there will be giant explosions, exciting car chases, gunplay with high caliber weapons, villains falling off tall buildings, and lots of people getting punched in the face.

And that's in just the first panel!