Quote from: naaee on May 24, 2017, 12:43:27 AM

Quote from: Vegan Jughead on May 23, 2017, 07:17:09 AM
Read some Archie.  It'll fix you right up!   

and now You can avoid the creator, but you cannot say He doesn't exist. Whether or not you accept the creator's authority is your business; but you cannot say there is no creator.

For example :- there are so many outlaws who say, "We don't want to obey the government." If you don't like the government, that is your business. But there is a government -- you can't deny that.

Sure I can. "There's no creator. A creator doesn't exist." See there, I just said it. Now, I may not be able to prove that statement is true, but then the reverse is also true, that you can't prove that statement is false. You can choose to believe whatever authority you want, but if, as you claim "no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand ... Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god", then the same is true of whatever authority you choose to believe, regardless of whether they are "great personalities" or not... all are human and fallible, and subject to being mistaken, or even self-deception, so no individual can claim to be better informed about the unknown than any other. It's pretty easy to prove the government exists, but impossible to prove god exists. You can believe a creator exists, and I can believe one doesn't, but neither of us can prove it. I think that's why it's called "faith". That's why there are so many belief systems, both religious, philosophical, and secular, and why nothing will ever be resolved, theologically speaking.

Women (and even some men) can appreciate physical beauty in a detached way that has nothing to do with sexual attraction, because in general social conditioning tends to make them a lot less homophobic than men as a gender.

Quote from: naaee on May 23, 2017, 01:26:36 AM
no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand [...] you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.

That was a lot of wordage, so I just thought I'd help out by boiling it all down to the essential nugget of truth here.

Quote from: SAGG on May 22, 2017, 10:52:57 AM
I'd like to add that I liked the origin of Zandor and Tara with the machines taking over their planet, and they had to go to their twin planet, becoming deliberately anti-technological. Rats. I forgot which one was the jungle planet (Amzot?), and the technological advanced one (Quasar?). And I CANNOT believe Shazzan would lose. He's a genie. They have god-like powers. In fact, he'd wipe Omnicron into nothingness.

Shazzan has magic at his disposal, and magic can do anything. The importance of the Shazzan cameo is just in establishing that he exists in one of those universes which Omnikron's vortexes (or vortices) had access to (and presumably Mightor's power club as well). Which is more than you can say about Young Samson and Goliath, or Moby Dick, Tom and Tubb, who didn't even get a cameo (but all in all, still better than appearing on 3 pages and then getting killed, like the Galaxy Trio). And then there was the cameo of Brak, which hinted at the possibility that Omnikron may have originated as one of his evil experiments to create some kind of destructive creature (presumably to threaten other planets into submission)... except that I don't recall Brak being a scientist, more of a space-pirate. That sounds more like something that Creature King would cook up...

Zandor and Tarra were originally inhabitants of Quasar, before the planet was entirely taken over by robots -- a bit too reminiscent of the future of The Terminator, for my tastes -- before fleeing to the primitive planet Amzot, whose indigenous lifeforms are genetically unique. It's true that the menaces Zandor and Tarra fought in the original H-B cartoon often used robots to carry out their dirty work, but the robots themselves were just tools, not the masters... but I've never been a big fan of the "robots are inherently evil if left to their own devices, unless carefully made into slaves by using proper programming or limiting their intelligence potential" school of thought... Maybe Tarra should have brought Frankenstein Jr. back to Quasar with her to kick their metal butts.

One other thing that bugged me in the series is that after introducing Dino Boy (who's never actually called that, by the way) Todd Messick in an early issue, his parents go missing after the timestorm and he sets out to find them in the Lost Valley (with Ug the Caveman's help)... and then he's just totally forgotten about, and we never did see what happened to him.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 18, 2017, 02:22:51 AM

Quote from: SAGG on February 18, 2017, 01:02:23 AMKnow what's REALLY scary? "Versus", not "and", or "teams up with". They're gonna FIGHT one another?  What's missing? Bugs Bunny vs. Superman?

Oh, no -- Bugs and Supes are both the good guys. Marvin, Yosemite Sam, Lobo & Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd are all bad guys.

Meanwhile, eighteen years ago (and now seeming like a timely candidate for a TP reprint collection) ...

And oh hey, look... they ARE reprinting all 4 issues of that Superman & Bugs Bunny miniseries as DC LOONEY TUNES 100-PAGE SUPER SPECTACULAR #1.
(And it's cheaper than a trade paperback.)

I've just re-read FUTURE QUEST #1-12. The story made a lot more sense the second time around, and I was able to pay attention to a lot of things I missed when I originally read it issue-by-issue over the course of a year. Not understanding the nature of the threat or how Omnikron worked made the story at first read like a lot of disjointed scenes where the focus kept changing (and was interrupted by a few flashbacks) and characters disappeared for issues, only to reappear later on, and it was hard to remember what they had all been doing before. There were a lot of things I liked, but also a lot of things I disliked about it.

Things I Disliked:

1.  Too many artists were involved in this for a 12-issue story. I would have much preferred if they'd kept on as they started in the early issues, with Evan Shaner drawing the main part of the story, and Steve Rude drawing flashback sequences that focused on specific characters. In reality Steve Rude only contributed interior art for issues #1 and 3, and Shaner only contributed interior pages to issues 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11 and 12 -- and for most of these, he didn't draw the entire issue. Ron Randall was the most consistent of the fill-in artists, contributing to issues 2, 4, 7, 9, and 10. Ariel Olivetti drew the entirety of issue #8 by himself. Olivetti is not a bad artist, but his work is so different-looking it makes this chapter stand out like a sore thumb. But there were at least half-a-dozen other artists contributing story pages in different issues (and most  of those were not flashback stories like Aaron Lopresti's and Karl Kesel's in issue #3).

2.  The new version of Mightor just didn't work for me. Taking that character out of his primitive setting makes him kind of pointless. I would have preferred if they'd kept the original Mightor as a character, and just had him existing on a primitive planet somewhere in the universe -- either that, or make Mightor's world and Dino Boy's Lost Land essentially the same place, more like a vortex into a primitive pocket universe with dinosaurs and other monsters. Mightor's costume change didn't work for meat all, nor replacing the flying, flame-breathing dragon Tog with Snag, a giant sabretooth cat. I was reminded of both Marvel's Ka-Zar, and H-B's own Young Samson and Goliath (who frankly would have worked better in this story for characters if they wanted a newer, more ethnically-diverse version of an old character).

3.  I will never forgive Jeff Parker for introducing the Galaxy Trio for a couple of pages in issue #2, only to kill them off immediately. 

4.  Turning Frankenstein Jr. into a robot with a pilot control cabin. Too cliched, and it makes him too much like any of the Japanese giant robot heroes.

5.  Falcon-7 and Big D both turning out not to be a real persons, but false-front personas for Deva Sumadi. Too little background info on Deva Sumadi and how she created Inter-Nation given, too -- doesn't feel believable.

6. Too little seen of Birdman's partner Avenger, and Blip could have been used more.


Things I Liked:

1.  Some background given on Space Ghost. He's Captain Kyr of Space Force Section 90, and the Space Force is kind of like the Green Lantern Corps, with higher-ranking officers being entrusted with a Power Band similar to the GLC's Power Ring. He's the last 'ghost' of the Space Force after they were all wiped out by Omnikron, and is training Jan and Jace to begin rebuilding the Space Force.

2.  Some background (but not too much) given to Birdman's identity of Ray Randall, as an archaeologist, but also somewhat of a general scientist, and defining his exact relationship as an agent of Inter-Nation. Hopefully more of his background and origin would be explained in a series of his own.

3.  Working out a background relationship for Dr. Quest, Dr. Zin, and Dr. Conroy, as well as explaining what happened to Jonny's mother.

4.  NOT changing the Quest Team, Space Ghost Team, Birdman, or the Herculoids too much. Keeping the original Phantom Cruiser design.

5.  Good origin story for the Impossibles. The setup for how they acquired their powers also allows for future appearance of super-villains in the H-B universe. I didn't mind the addition of the new fourth (and female) member, Cobalt, although her codename could have been better, more in keeping with the other Impossibles' codenames. Magnetic powers are sort of overused for comics characters, so some kind of body-morphing powers (again in keeping with the original trio's powers) would have been better.

6.  How Birdman's traditional foes F.E.A.R. were worked into the story in a good way.

7. The robot spiders being a creation of Dr. Kim-Conroy, and being copied by Dr. Zin to be used for nefarious purposes.

8. Small cameo appearances of Shazzan and Brak.

For the longest time period of time there, Archie, B&V, and Jughead all had two simultaneously-ongoing digest titles. That's because one of them was a standard-sized Comics Digest, while the other was the Double Digest for each of the three.

Note, however, that there was a period of time -- six and half years, from Fall 1989 through Spring 1996 -- when JUGHEAD could claim the distinction of having three ongoing digest titles: Jughead With Archie Comics Digest, Jughead's Double Digest, AND The Jughead Jones Comics Digest Magazine.

Apart from the short runs of Veronica's (Passport) Digest and Betty's Digest, and excluding such titles as Little Archie Digest, The New Archies Digest, Archie's Pals 'n' Gals Double Digest, Archie & Friends Double Digest, which were less focused on ARCHIE as a character than, well ... everyone, even Archie only has Archie Double Digest, Archie's Funhouse Double Digest, and World of Archie Double Digest being published right now, the latter two of which are less-likely to be packed with exclusively-Archie stories. When those three Jughead digests were all being published at the same time, more than 90% of those stories reprinted ALL had Jughead in them.

Couldn't remember! Did you know the "search" function no longer works? I was going to find the thread and mention the reprinted story there, but... 

There have been no less than SIX different digest titles devoted to Jughead over the years, so his history of digest reprint titles can probably be the most confusing to sort out. Okay, really only FIVE if you don't count that one-shot CAPTAIN HERO Maybe the most easily confused digest titles are JUGHEAD WITH ARCHIE DIGEST (1974-2005) and the very-similarly-titled JUGHEAD AND ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST (2014-now). For simplicity's sake I've omitted the words "comics" and "magazine" where they've appeared over the years in some digest titles, where they've been sometimes inconsistently applied. I've listed all the ACP digest titles here with the ones devoted to Jughead in bold:

title	1st issue	Last issue	#	notes
ARCHIE DIGEST	Aug   1973	Sep   2010	267	Replaced by WORLD OF ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST
LAUGH COMICS DIGEST	Aug   1974	Apr   2005	200	Replaced by TALES FROM RIVERDALE DIGEST
JUGHEAD WITH ARCHIE DIGEST	Aug   1974	May   2005	200	Replaced by JUGHEAD AND FRIENDS DIGEST
ARCHIE ANNUAL DIGEST	1975	Apr   1998	43	Continued from ARCHIE ANNUAL #26  (#s27-69)
MADHOUSE COMICS DIGEST	1976	Aug   1982	8
ARCHIE... ARCHIE ANDREWS, WHERE ARE YOU? DIGEST	Feb   1977	May   1998	114
JUGHEAD JONES COMICS DIGEST	Jun   1977	May   1996	100
JOKEBOOK COMICS DIGEST ANNUAL	Oct   1977	Oct   1983	13
LITTLE ARCHIE COMICS DIGEST	Oct   1977	May   1991	48	(Issues #1-15 are ANNUALs)
ARCHIE'S SUPER HERO SPECIAL COMICS DIGEST	1978	1979	2
BETTY AND VERONICA DIGEST	Nov   1980	Oct   2010	208	Continues as B & V FRIENDS DOUBLE DIGEST #209; (Issues #1-4 are ANNUALs)
CAPTAIN HERO COMICS DIGEST	1981		1	(One-shot)
ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST	Jan   1982		now	266+ issues (2016)
ARCHIE'S ACTIVITY COMICS DIGEST	1985	Aug   1986	4	Replaced by ARCHIE'S STORY AND GAME DIGEST
ARCHIE'S STORY AND GAME DIGEST	Nov   1986	Jan   1998	39
BETTY AND VERONICA DOUBLE DIGEST	Jun   1987		now	253+ issues (2016)
KATY KEENE COMICS DIGEST	1987	Jul   1990	10
THE NEW ARCHIES DIGEST	Oct   1987	May   1990	22
BETTY AND VERONICA ANNUAL DIGEST	Sep   1989	Jun   1997	16	Not to be confused with the identically-titled digest from 1980-83 (#1-4)
JUGHEAD DOUBLE DIGEST	Oct   1989	Feb   2014	200	Replaced by JUGHEAD AND ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST
ARCHIE'S PALS 'n' GALS DOUBLE DIGEST	Nov   1992	Nov   2010	146	Replaced by ARCHIE AND FRIENDS DOUBLE DIGEST
VERONICA'S DIGEST	Nov   1992	Dec   1995	6
ARCHIE ALL CANADIAN DIGEST	Aug   1996	Aug   1996	1	(One-shot)
BETTY'S DIGEST	Nov   1996	Nov   1997	2
ARCHIE'S HOLIDAY FUN DIGEST	Feb   1997	Dec   2007	12
JUGHEAD AND FRIENDS DIGEST	Jun   2005	Jul   2010	38	Replaced JUGHEAD WITH ARCHIE DIGEST
TALES FROM RIVERDALE DIGEST	Jul   2005	Aug   2010	39	Replaced LAUGH COMICS DIGEST
WORLD OF ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST	Oct   2010		now	67+ issues (2016); Replaced ARCHIE DIGEST
ARCHIE AND FRIENDS DOUBLE DIGEST	Dec   2010	Jan   2014	33	Replaced ARCHIE'S PALS 'n' GALS; replaced by ARCHIE'S FUNHOUSE
B & V FRIENDS DOUBLE DIGEST	Jan   2011		now	253+ issues (2016); Continued from BETTY AND VERONICA DIGEST #208
ARCHIE'S FUNHOUSE DOUBLE DIGEST	Mar   2014		now	26+ issues (2016); Replaced ARCHIE AND FRIENDS DOUBLE DIGEST
JUGHEAD AND ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST	Apr   2014		now	26+ issues (2016); Replaced JUGHEAD DOUBLE DIGEST

How about those nice round numbers that a lot of the digests ended their runs with? ACP used to like to celebrate anniversary issues by replacing an old digest title with an entirely new one!

I'd have to say the timing of that particular reprint isn't coincidental with the Sabrina and Josie appearing together in the current story beginning in the new JUGHEAD #15...

Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2017, 05:56:48 PM
Hey, DR, did you boldface the Bridgette story because it's the newest one?

Exactly!

Quote from: SAGG on May 20, 2017, 05:56:48 PMPlus, Sabrina AND the Pussycats in "Pussycats Plus One?! With your hero DeCarlo drawing it?! Now, THERE'S the team-up with both of DeCarlo's creations as the heroines! Pretty good story, too.... 

Yeah, that's from the 1987 Sabrina series, and there's still a lot of those I haven't read yet. I knew it existed (because I've looked through all the covers and contents online), but somehow I'd forgotten about that one a while ago, when someone had started a thread asking if there'd ever been a Sabrina/Josie crossover story. Apart from some of those all-star guest-star lineups in a few issues (including the Tom DeFalco/Fernando Ruiz story in B&V #271, which was the first to show Alexandra & Sabrina together), Sabrina the Teenage Witch #17 is the only issue to feature a full-fledged crossover of Sabrina and Josie that I know of.

	BETTY & VERONICA SUMMER ANNUAL #253
Featured character(s)	title	# pages	Script:	Pencils:	Inks: (notes)
Betty & Veronica	COVER	1   cover		Dan Parent	Dan Parent
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Brigette's Jingle Jangle!" (NEW)	5   pages	Dan Parent	Dan Parent	Bob Smith
BETTY & VERONICA in	"The Prints of Wails"	6   pages	Frank Doyle	Dan DeCarlo	Jim DeCarlo
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Party Planners"	5   pages	Kathleen Webb	Jeff Schultz	Henry Scarpelli
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Troop Money Bags"	6   pages	Mike Pellowski	Dan DeCarlo	Allison Flood
BETTY in	"Summertime and the Livin' Ain't Easy"	5   pages	Kathleen Webb	Stan Goldberg	John Lowe
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Green Dumb!"	5   pages	Fernando Ruiz	Fernando Ruiz	Rudy Lapick
SABRINA in	"Pussycats Plus One"	21   pages	Bill Golliher	Dan DeCarlo	Jon D'Agostino
SABRINA in	"Treat-To-Do!"	1   page	uncredited	uncredited	(1-page gag)
BETTY & VERONICA in	"The Big Attraction"	1   page	uncredited	uncredited	(1-page gag)
VERONICA	"Veronica's Fashions by the Sea"	1   page	uncredited	(probably DeCarlo)	(pin-up/fashion page)
BETTY in	"Surf Turf"	1   page	George Gladir	Stan Goldberg	Bob Smith
BETTY'S FASHIONS	"The Hot Days of Summer"	1   page	uncredited	(probably DeCarlo)	(pin-up/fashion page)
BETTY & VERONICA	"Betty & Veronica's Hawaiian Vacation"	1   page	uncredited	Dan DeCarlo	(pin-up/fashion page)
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Summer Simmer"	6   pages	George Gladir	DeCarlo	Rudy Lapick
VERONICA in	"Clothes-Minded"	6   pages	Dan Parent	Dan Parent	Dan Parent
BETTY & VERONICA in	"The Baby-Sitter"	6   pages	Dick Malmgren	Dan DeCarlo	Rudy Lapick
BETTY & VERONICA in	"The Way the Ball Bounces..."	6   pages	Frank Doyle	Dan DeCarlo	Rudy Lapick
BETTY & VERONICA in	"The Guinea Pig"	6   pages	Fernando Ruiz	Dan DeCarlo	Henry Scarpelli
BETTY	"Beachy Keen!"	1   page	uncredited	(probably Parent)	(pin-up/puzzle page)
VERONICA	"Veronica's Hot Looks in the Bahamas"	1   page	uncredited	(probably DeCarlo)	(pin-up/fashion page)
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Clean-Up Hitter"	21   pages	Frank Doyle	DeCarlo & Parent	Allison Flood
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Archie-Free Day"	6   pages	Barbara Slate	Dan DeCarlo	Dan DeCarlo
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Paid in Fool"	5   pages	Frank Doyle	Dan DeCarlo	Allison Flood
VERONICA in	"Cabin Fever"	6   pages	Frank Doyle	Stan Goldberg	Rudy Lapick
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Jog Jag"	5   pages	Frank Doyle	Dan DeCarlo	Rudy Lapick
MR. LODGE in	"Castle Hassle"	5   pages	George Gladir	Stan Goldberg	Rudy Lapick
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Chef's Surprise"	5   pages	Kathleen Webb	Fernando Ruiz	Jim Amash
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Swimsuit Issue"	5   pages	Mike Pellowski	Dan DeCarlo	Jim DeCarlo
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Mow Money"	6   pages	Mike Pellowski	Dan DeCarlo	Henry Scarpelli
CHERYL BLOSSOM in	"Night School"	5   pages	Holly Golightly	Holly Golightly	Holly Golightly
CHERYL BLOSSOM	"Suits Me Fine!"	1   page	uncredited	(probably Parent)	(pin-up/puzzle page)
JASON BLOSSOM in	"Drive Out!"	5   pages	Dan Parent	Dan Parent	Jon D'Agostino
VERONICA	"Veronica's Beachwear Collection!!"	1   page	uncredited	(probably DeCarlo)	(pin-up/fashion page)
BETTY & VERONICA in	"Some Things Never Change"	6   pages	Barbara Slate	Jeff Schultz	Al Milgrom
BETTY	"Betty's FUN Fashions"	1   page	uncredited	(probably DeCarlo)	(pin-up/fashion page)
BETTY & VERONICA in	"T.G.I.F."	5   pages	Frank Doyle	Dan DeCarlo	Jim DeCarlo

Quote from: Vegan Jughead on May 19, 2017, 07:50:24 AM
Sadly, this title hasn't been selling so we have to hope that changes or we might not get to see how this all turns out.

Digital and trade paperback sales still being an important part of the profit formula, I think we'll at least see story arcs conclude in a way that they're collectable in discrete chunks. I think we all know that the New Riverdale line of floppy comics isn't going to be a permanent fixture of ACP's publishing for the foreseeable future though. The next obvious shift would be to digital-only releases of singles, followed by a TP release (as the only print format) 6-to-12 months later, but whether any of the New Riverdale titles will still be around for that it's hard to say. Comic shop audiences are not enamored of this genre or these characters in the format which is their bread-and-butter, so ACP is likely to be one of the first companies to go that route.

We could also ask how it is that Pop Tate can afford to give away tickets for a live concert (check typical prices on Ticketron) by merely purchasing a couple of dozen modestly-priced food items at his restaurant... certainly those tickets must cost far more than the profit generated by those food items -- better not to think about the logic (or lack of it).

I would say it was nice to see Toni Topaz again, but frankly, since she can't be anything more to Jughead than just a rival foodie, she's become a pointless character, IMO (some would say she was all along, but if she doesn't represent a possible romantic interest for Jughead, then she's just a background character with pink hair as far as I'm concerned). Same goes for Trula Twyst -- the new Jughead's asexual orientation renders that character pointless as well.

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