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  • Jabroniville: The next issue was a pretty great one- Jughead swears off girls by writing songs about how awful women are, which makes the girls at the shows fall in LOVE with him. Eventually, Betty & Ronnie refuse to play another sexist number, and he's finally consoled by ETHEL of all people (who really got the short end of the stick with the Debbie/Joani arc).
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General Discussion / Re: Sears/Kmart
« on: November 11, 2017, 02:23:34 AM »
I can't speak for all of Canada, but every mall I know of has hours it insists stores stay open. Department stores and restaurants are often open later, but every place has to be open until the mall is closed- this mystified me until I went to a mall with a lot of stores that'd shut down, and I realized that if stores closed whenever they wanted, then the mall would visually appear to be closing down or failing :).

The only places around here that are allowed to close earlier are the travel agent shops and pharmacies- I assume it's because those people are trained professionals (like, more than us cashiers :)) and can thus dictate their hours.


It makes the "outdoor shopping center" look more attractive to business owners, even if "walk-in traffic" is diminished.

I really hope malls don't fail, however. Shopping centers are lame places to visit compared to malls, the food is scattered everywhere instead of in one place, it's often freezing out, and anyone with kids will tell you it's REALLY inconvenient to have to walk from place to place with children (especially if they're in strollers). Malls are a god-send to people with kids.

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General Discussion / Re: Sears/Kmart
« on: November 09, 2017, 09:35:56 AM »
Malls in Canada are a different situation: http://business.financialpost.com/news/retail-marketing/better-design-and-atmosphere-why-canadian-malls-are-thriving-while-american-malls-struggle


The weather here prevents a lot of "outdoor shopping center" things. Though a lot of malls are learning that their "anchors" are unnecessary, and are looking into putting odd things in those locations- doctors' offices, gyms, etc. These places provide rent money, even if there's no "crossover" between one thing and the other Most of the malls in town are undergoing MAJOR renovations, too- they're spending money to look better and be more modern.

Also, Online Shopping is proving to be riskier and riskier for a lot of people, and could eventually peak (never mind that Amazon barely even makes money, if at all).

Personally, I'd hate to see malls disappear entirely- as archaic as some aspects can be (business owners HATE the enforced opening & closing times, as they have to pay staff to do nothing for hours on weekends), they're a much better "destination" than most shopping centers tend to be.

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I lurked around this site for about two months before the temporary shutdown happened. I'm really glad I became interested in the site then, because all of the information was enough to get me interested and keep scrolling for more.
If I had just discovered the site now, though, I don't know how long I would have stayed. Long conversations about characters and historical comics that are fascinating and have input from many users are much less frequent on the new site than the old one. I understand that it's no one's fault, and of course all of those conversations took years to develop. But if I hadn't found the site when it was full of lively discussions, I don't know that I would have eventually made an account.
Yeah, it was really tragic to lose the site because nobody was backing anything up. It was a really amateur-hour thing.

I used to love coming here a lot. I'd actually look up stuff every day, find old posts, and go on my trademark long-winded rants. Unfortunately, a lot of the "energy" to do that has faded. Posters like Zach Ziggster don't seem to be around- he was good people.  Even Mark's insanely-long threads about his old mall or his constantly-dying pets at least held SOME interest, but those are gone. The idea of arguing on the internet loses its luster now that I'm in my mid-30s and don't feel like arguing with people who don't seem like they can read or write properly, either, and we seem to have a lot more of those types all of a sudden.

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General Discussion / Re: Sears/Kmart
« on: February 23, 2017, 02:32:59 PM »
The whole Target launch up here was a complete Fiasco.  They lasted about a year. They grossly misunderstood what consumers here would want (we wanted an exact copy of the US stores, pricing included).   Instead, we were treated to half empty shelves and inflated prices. The parent company gave no time for the operation to become profitable.


Thousands lost jobs and most of the stores just stand empty now.  The retail landscape in Canada is very sparse compared to America as it is.  Walmart is pretty much the only department store we have now. We used to have Zellers, Woolworth/Woolco, Towers, Eaton's, Robinson's...etc.  Retail as we know it has had its day I'm afraid.   
Yeah, it was an absolute disaster. I read a HUGE article on it once- a lot of boring business-speak, but it also mentioned that the empty shelves were due to a poor distribution system- employees didn't want to get in trouble, so they clicked everything to be at a minimum, and the automatic system wouldn't flag them for it. So ALL of the stores were empty.

They also foolishly over-shot their limits- opening up DOZENS of stores when they should have done flagship launches in major cities, or in one area. They opened up THREE FRIGGIN' STORES in Edmonton near-simultaneously. Of COURSE that was going to be a disaster! Nobody can go from "zero stores" to "a hundred stores" overnight and make it work. I don't care if they WERE in major shopping centers (West Edmonton Mall & Kingsway).


And yeah, malls are now sitting with gigantic Big Boxes empty. West Edmonton Mall has JUST NOW figured out what they're going to do with theirs, and it's been empty for two or three years now. Target lost billions on this nonsense.

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Why almost everything new members leave the forum after 1-2 weeks?
Many of these members are interesting and very active here.  :(


Does anyone realize how ironic it is that the person who made a thread complaining about this fact is themself a "Posts a bit, then deletes their account" poster?

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Okay, after years of hype, it looks like Riverdale is a ratings flop:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-thursday-jan-26-2017/

It's a big stinking failure.  It won't get renewed for Season 2.  There will be no new episodes ordered.  The show is a bastardization of Archie's characters.  The only time in the future it will be brought up is when one of those niche YouTube reviewers goes, "Wow, remember that Riverdale show?  That really sucked!  What were they thinking?!  Let's play one of those stupid scenes of Archie having sexual relations with Miss Grundy to laugh at it!  Boy, this was one of the worst things to come out of 2017 by far!"

Since Archie has spent so much of its capital and reputation on this so called television program, we must now ask, who is to blame?  Well, one person to blame is Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, who will surely go down as one of the biggest hacks in the history of writing.  If Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa has an idea, chances are it's something completely idiotic.  He turns Archie characters into his own masturbatory fantasies that have no relation to the characters from the comics.  If Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa had written Catcher in the Rye, it would have been the worst book ever written in the history of the human race.   I hear he is a playwright.  Perhaps his next play should be,  "I'm a Really Bad Writer."  It should of course star himself.

Has he even read any of the comics?  That's a very good question in and of itself, yet he has been awarded the title of Chief Creative Officer of Archie Comics.  Why was he given this position?  No one knows.  His ideas suck worse than the most powerful Dyson vacuum cleaner.

For that I say Mr. Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa should resign from his position Chief Creative Officer of Archie Comics and be given the new title of Chief Dunce of Archie Comics.  Here's your dunce cap, Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, you've earned it:



Of course Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa isn't the only person to blame.  Who approved this god awful mess?  Who appointed Aguirre-Sacasa as Chief Creative Officer of Archie Comics?  Well, that was most likely someone named Jonathan Goldwater.  Not the John L. Goldwater that built the company into a successful publishing giant in the comics world, but the Jonathan Goldwater who recently inherited the company via bloodline succession much like the kingdoms of ancient Europe.  As any good student of history knows, that doesn't always produce the best results for the kingdom.

Much like a drunk driver, Mr. Goldwater has been running his company off of a cliff into a ditch with gimmick after gimmick.  While comic book media outlets may pretend like everything he does is worthy of news, sales I don't think have panned out.  And now Riverdale is a big stinking failure.  Recently, Mr. Goldwater has been firing Archie veterans to replace them with people like the person who "drew" Squirrel Girl, who I heard was later replaced for not knowing how to draw.  I don't know why Mr. Goldwater keeps making ridiculous decisions, but perhaps he has a problem with alcohol abuse.  It's just a theory.  It could be true or not.  But regardless he's been metaphorically drunk with his direction of this company for quite some time.  So I gift unto you Mr. Goldwater, this book on the 12 step program:



Please get off the sauce and right the ship, Mr. Goldwater.  Children ruining their parents' businesses is kind of a tired cliche, don't you think?

Also there is another CEO named Nancy Silberkleit that should perhaps also be discussed.  According to reports by the mainstream news media, she is obsessed with calling people male body parts as opposed to their first and last names:

https://thehairpin.com/penis-penis-penis-the-legend-of-nancy-silberkleit-9c3bd69030b3#.rvpl245et

Now I don't know why a female CEO would be so obsessed with certain male organs to the point of seeing them in the corporate office instead of fellow co-workers wearing business attire, but perhaps this is something to best be addressed by a licensed psychiatrist.  To you Nancy Silberkleit, Co-CEO of Archie Comics, I bestow unto you this chair to sit in as you discuss your problems in a clinical setting:



I hope you make a full recovery and return to the realm of the sane.  The best of wishes to you, Nancy Silberkleit.
LOL, B-Ko- it IS you!! I don't know why I didn't notice at first!

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Sorry to resurrect this one, but I had to after going through the archives. Here's the bit from my own RPG build of the character:

-Trula Twyst was a great little storyline in the Jughead books last decade, and I kind of wish they'd do more with it. Forming her "J.U.S.T. Cause", she tracked Jughead, reading into his motives and personality traits, and created a complex plot to make him drop his distaste for romance (through placing herself in his location at every point, making him fascinated with her). This "epic" three-parter ended with Trula finally convincing Jughead that he might have been ROMANTICALLY INTERESTED IN HER. The fact that a woman could do this to Jug made all the other boys in Riverdale High interested in her (I mean, if the He-Man Woman-Hater could fall for a girl, she MUST be awesome, right?), and suddenly Trula was the most popular girl in school, with her pick of guys to date. WHICH WAS HER PLAN ALL ALONG. Doctor Doom, move over, you have been replaced in the Magnificent Bastard arena with a teenage girl.

-Trula appeared several more times over the years to vex Jughead, usually coming out as a surprise ending. Jug never trusted her after her initial manipulation, and she gleefully maneuvered him and others about like puppets on strings as a villainous Femme Fatale. Awesome stuff. And in actuality, she was the only person who almost NEVER got comeuppance from Jughead- his frequent victims Veronica & Reggie almost NEVER pull one over on him, but Trula? Trula nearly always remained victorious. At various points, she made Jughead convinced he spoke only French, subliminally write her initials everywher he went, and made him DISLIKE HAMBURGERS. This makes her one of the most unique Archie Comics females, and I wish they'd do something with her- she just kind of popped up in random backstories as a nemesis, and only in Jughead's book.

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All About Archie / Some RPG stats for Archie & the gang
« on: July 16, 2016, 03:13:51 AM »
Hi all- I've been statting up some Archie characters for the Mutants & Masterminds RPG (mostly designed for superheroes, but can fit everyone), including my own notes on the characters. I figured I'd share it here while I was in the midst of things: http://roninarmy.com/threads/149-Jab-s-Builds!?p=200601&viewfull=1#post200601.

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A bunch of reasons, really:

* The movie lost a TON of money, thus hurting the brand.

* The books stopped selling. People keep SAYING they're fans of Josie & the Pussycats, but not putting their wallets where their mouths are and actually BUYING them.

* Repeated failed runs (or low-selling Mini-Series) over the past decades have made people more and more likely to not buy the books, figuring that it'll be just another quick cancellation.


* She's Josie is better anyways :) . A lot of the longtime fans think so, in any case.

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My own character would be a guy (or girl) who was literally the only one in town to notice how INSANE everyone else is. Like, going "OH MY GOD! That huge guy just punched that other guy in the face for looking at his girl! That's assault! He has the mind of a child and he's somehow in High School! That red-headed kid just destroyed thousands of dollars worth of public property! Shouldn't he be made to pay for that, or his parents be called? That giant girl is committing sexual assault on that boy with the hat! And the same hat-wearing boy just ate enough food to KILL a normal person! And why do those two stone-cold hotties find that red-headed goof attractive?!? And who openly allows their boyfriend to two-time them, or waver between one and the other like that? That white-haired girl is practicing the occult!"

Basically, my character would be the Frank Grimes of the Archie Universe :).

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All About Archie / Re: "Betty Cooper, Betty Cooper!"
« on: June 29, 2016, 03:42:49 AM »
I have one of these now- it's as bizarre as you'd think. The WEIRDEST part might be that it's in the middle of the story (few Archie books are multi-parters in this era), and there's no real explanation as to what's going on. It's just one Soap Cliche after another. Which is fun in its own way.

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My opinions:



ARCHIE: A) The scheming bastard of the 1940s; B) The befuddled, clumsy loser of most other eras; C) The all-around nice guy.


I like B. Archie should CONSTANTLY be scheming, and not be the milquetoast he later became. But "C" is going too far. Earlier eras of Archie are a bit too unsympathetic, though.

JUGHEAD: A) The woman-hating, somewhat-vicious schemer of the old days- constantly belittled and insulted women; B) The Jughead seen in the NUMEROUS "Jughead gets a girl" storylines (Joanie & Debbie, Anita Chavita, Sandy Sanchez, etc.); C) The anti-romance character who can still hang out with women (such as his friendship with Betty).

I prefer "C"- he fits in better with the rest of the gang, and Jughead/Betty is one of the more-fun character interactions out there.



VERONICA: A) Straight-up selfish villainess ('40s & Mark Waid Reboot); B) The Jerk with a Heart of Gold character (mostly seen in and after the '60s); C) The nicer, more down-to-earth one of the '90s-2000s era (where her major conflicts are things like figuring out which charity to pursue).

"B"- Ronnie can thus hang out with the group, but carries a nasty edge that gets commented upon. The later version seems WAY too nice most of the time (she's basically a nice character who hates Jughead- not exactly what made people like Veronica to begin with).

BETTY COOPER: A) The scheming, somewhat-dim loser ('40s & '50s); B) The All-Around Girl-Next-Door Nice Girl Tomboy (most eras)

Yeah, I don't really care for most of the "A" Betty, even if the older strips were usually funnier. She's a bit too manic and insane.



REGGIE MANTLE: A) Outright villain whom just about everyone hates; B) Jerk With a Heart of Gold, who still hangs out with the gang.

I can waver on this one. He interacts well with the rest of the gang, so they should at least tolerate him. But "A" is SO MUCH BETTER FOR SOME STORIES.

CHERYL BLOSSOM: A) The super-selfish and obnoxious villain ('80s & her return); B) Veronica-Lite "Actually deep-down really nice" character (from her solo book).

"A"- I find the "B" version to be ridiculous, as we ALREADY HAVE THAT EXACT CHARACTER. Cheryl in her own book essentially turned into Veronica II, but with more of a "Star-Seeking" thing.

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Also Fernando said something about how he had ghost written (used another name?) some stories for ACP after this one so we may see those eventually.


I ghost-wrote those scripts for another Archie comics writer-artist. It shouldn't be too hard to figure out who that is! I think they might be close to coming out very soon.


Archie Comics, of course, now hates me because unlike Dan DeCarlo and Stan Goldberg, after they drove me out, I didn't conveniently drop dead. In a very petty move, they said I could no longer ghost-write for them anymore.


They have a horrible, horrible reputation for their treatment of their talent. Trust me. Every bit of it is deserved.
Wow, that sucks. I figured Mark Waid was right when he said that Archie mistreated everybody (his specific complaint was that they paid people very little while sucking up all of the profits of the company for themselves)... but he neglected to mention that they're STILL doing it.


We still totally need Archie Comics: The Untold Story- a huge collection of the history of the company, written by a third party and taking viewpoints from EVERYBODY. Alas, so many of the old names are deceased at this point. But it'd still be more accurate than that one from a couple years ago, where the company's co-founder was apparently a giant ladies' man who ALWAYS had two girls fighting over him, just so that he could lay a claim over Bob Montana's :) .

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The "Ugly Characters" (The Bee, Miss Grundy, Prof. Flutesnoot, Miss Beazley, Miss Haggly, Mr. Svenson): Stan Goldberg. He had a cartoonier style than Dan DeCarlo, and it WORKED.

Betty: Dan DeCarlo- just the EXACT perfect curl to her ponytail. Never mind the fanservice :) .

Veronica: Either Dan DeCarlo or Harry Lucey. I only ever read the "Bad Lucey" stuff as a kid (his art style had kind of shifted over the years, maybe with age. I'm not sure, but it was weaker), but seeing the "Good Lucey" years was an eye-opener.

Jughead: Samm Schwartz's is classic, but I like the more childlike Jughead Fernando Ruiz draws best. It best "catches" the way he currently is. Doug Crane also did a very good "disheveled Jughead".

Reggie: I think I have to go with Bob Montana, after seeing his stuff up there. He has a CLASSIC "Evil Sneer" going on.

Cheryl Blossom: Dan DeCarlo (I mean, come on).

The Josie Gang (She's Josie/Josie & The Pussycats): Dan DeCarlo again.

Trula Twyst: Rex Lindsey. He's the only one who could ever get that HAIR right. Curly hair is REALLY tough to draw, as is Trula's distinctive nose. As much as any Archie artist owned a character, Rex owned Trula.

Kevin Keller: Dan Parent (well duh).

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All About Archie / Re: Dan vs Fernando
« on: May 02, 2016, 01:14:24 AM »
Hahahahahah BEST. Though Fernando's not nearly that chubby in real life :).

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