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  • BettyReggie: 112 Days until Wednesday 10th 2018 ,  Riverdale Season #3 on The CW at 8pm.
    June 20, 2018, 05:28:15 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: And another one: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:42:07 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: Riverdale spoof: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Roughing It!" from B&V Friends #262: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:12:53 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: @irishmoxie -- It's definitely complete. All six of the 1958-59 Sy Reit/Bob White original issues, plus the feature-length "Good Guys of the Galaxy" by Tom DeFalco & Fernando Ruiz from ARCHIE #655, and three 5-page digest shorts that guest-starred Cosmo -- and the complete first issue of the Ian Flynn/Tracy Yarley COSMO (2017) thrown in for good measure. It follows the same layout/format as the previous JUGHEAD'S TIME POLICE, even though that didn't carry the "Archie Comics Presents..." trade dress. Not a bad buy for $11.
    June 14, 2018, 01:08:59 AM
  • irishmoxie: Anyone get the Cosmo book that came out today? Any good?
    June 13, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
  • Cosmo: Ah man....and I was worried I was the last enthusiast for ERB's stuff. I'm currently rereading my Dell Tarzan books. Really good fun! It took a while to complete that run.
    June 12, 2018, 06:51:53 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: ...Marvel's earlier JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS in there, so the DE Tarzan comics need to go in a different box, and SHEENA (also a recent DE title) and DC's RIMA THE JUNGLE GIRL will help fill up that box.
    June 11, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Recently. DE's unauthorized LORD OF THE JUNGLE Tarzan adaptations (and its authorized THE GREATEST ADVENTURE) won't fit into my existing box of previous Tarzan comics from Gold Key, DC, and Dark Horse, so I have to start a new box. Logically these get filed with DE's unauthorized WARLORD OF MARS comics (including DEJAH THORIS) and their authorized JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS. But I also want to squeeze Marve;
    June 11, 2018, 07:38:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Interesting. I tend not to group titles by publisher at all, if the characters were not created as work-for-hire (meaning the publisher is legally considered the 'author' of the character). Do they belong to that publisher's "universe" (assuming it has one)? There are some publishers like Dynamite Entertainment where the vast majority of the titles they publish are licensed, and thus were "inherited" from other publishers. Therefore it makes more sense to me to group them together in boxes with similar characters. Flash Gordon, The Phantom, and Mandrake comics (regardless of who the actual publisher was) go together in the same box because they're all classic adventure heroes licensed from Hearst Entertainment (formerly King Features Syndicate). Pulp fiction heroes like The Shadow, Doc Savage, and The Spider (regardless of the fact that the latter did not originate with the same publisher as the first two) also get grouped together. Space considerations allowing, Tarzan (and other Edgar Rice Burroughs adaptations) might share the same box with Sheena and Rima, but NOT with Ka-Zar, because he's a Marvel Universe character.
    June 11, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
  • rusty: I do keep all Star Trek series together in their own section and all Star Wars books together.  I also keep all 2000AD titles together and manga books get their own section.  For titles that have switched publishers, I usually keep them all with the publisher that I identify them with the most.  Tarzan has been published by a variety of publishers, but I keep them with Dell/Gold Key.  Conan is starting to get a bit close with all the success Dark Horse has had, but I still identify Conan more with Marvel.
    June 11, 2018, 06:27:26 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Believe it or not, I even have a box labeled "Pseudo-manga" that contains comics published by American companies and created by American creators like Astro Boy & Racer X (Now Comics), Battle of the Planets (Gold Key & Top Cow/Image), Captain Harlock (Malibu), Godzilla (Dark Horse) and Ultraman. I just want to keep those separate from the boxes of real translated manga in floppy comic format.
    June 11, 2018, 03:34:17 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Well. the problem is when you get titles with licensed characters that aren't owned by the publisher. So if you collect Star Trek comics, you'd have different series published by Gold Key, Marvel, DC, and IDW (and I probably missed one in there). It doesn't make sense to me to put them in different boxes by publisher, but to each his own. Disney comics would be another example. There are even some instances where if I like a certain artist enough, I will put all his work regardless of publisher or characters into one box, like Paul Gulacy, Steve Rude, or Mike Allred (and file them chronologically from older to newer, rather than alphabetically). Those are examples where my interest in the creator far exceeds my relative interest in whatever characters are involved.
    June 11, 2018, 03:14:29 PM
  • rusty: That makes sense.  There are many ways that people can file books.  What I do is file by company or category and then alphabetically within each section.  My first category is Richie Rich then Archie, then other Harvey titles, then Disney, then other humor/kids books, then by company (unless it is a company where I don't have very many books from them.  Star Trek and Star Wars each get their own section as well.  I will probably revamp a bit when I do my next major sort/merge.  The biggest section by far for me is DC.
    June 11, 2018, 09:28:59 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: I don't even file my comics alphabetically. I file them according to how closely they're related to other titles, but it's all dependent on the number of issues I have of any given title, and what will fit into a single box. Fpr ACP comics I just put all the short-run series (whether an actual miniseries or just a not particularly successful title) into one box. Even though some of those short run series star Jughead, and I could as easily file those together with the main JUGHEAD title in another box. For longer running ACP titles, "girl" titles are sorted into different boxes than "boy" titles. Eventually when I have enough issues of BETTY (and BETTY AND ME and BETTY'S DIARY) they'll get their own box, and VERONICA will get her own box.
    June 10, 2018, 09:49:06 AM
  • rusty: I file Jughead under J and Reggie under R in all of their incarnations, though I do file the original Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen books under S since that keeps them with the Superman books and also because they kept that title throughout their entire run.  If anyone wants to look up Jughead or Reggie in Overstreet, though, they will have to look under A for the early issues.
    June 10, 2018, 07:56:27 AM
  • BettyReggie: I can't wait to get that Reggie book. It's coming out the day after my 39th Birthday.
    June 10, 2018, 06:42:06 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Yeah, I never understood why publishers felt the need to point that out on the covers of a comic book, like maybe someone didn't really know who REGGIE was, and might buy it just because they noticed the words "Archie's Rival" above the big letters that spelled REGGIE? Same with "Archie's Pal" or "Superman's Pal" or "Superman's Girl Friend" -- like some potential buyer wouldn't know who Jughead, Jimmy Olsen, or Lois Lane was, but would know who Archie or Superman was? Just assume you're selling the product to idiots, I guess. Is anyone really filing REGGIE under "A" for Archie's Pal in their collections??
    June 10, 2018, 05:42:02 AM
  • rusty: In it's first incarnation, Reggie was titled ARCHIE'S RIVAL, REGGIE.  It wasn't until after the title was resurrected nearly a decade later that it became REGGIE and then REGGIE AND ME.
    June 09, 2018, 10:23:13 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: I've never understood why those old titles had "and Me" in them, anyway. Why not just name the titles after the starring characters?
    June 09, 2018, 08:17:45 PM

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Betty's ponytail should be attributed to Harry Lucey, not Dan DeCarlo. And DeCarlo's becoming a main artist at Archie Comics has a lot more to do with DeCarlo's work (on Millie the Model, et. al.) drying up at Marvel when their distributor, American News, went bust, which left Martin Goodman with no options but to let Independent News (owned by the same people who owned DC Comics) handle their distribution... and the deal was that Independent would only accept eight titles a month from Goodman, which limited him to sixteen bi-monthly titles. That effectively put a lot of Marvel artists out of work, since prior to that, Marvel had been publishing something more like 40 or 50 titles a month.

I don't think Brian Cronin has studied Archie Comics too much, since you can find lots of better examples of sexiness than that one cover Harry Lucey drew depicting B&V exercising in a gym. One would think he'd never seen an issue of JOSIE with Melody in it, or several examples of Cheryl's appearances, not to mention that one story where Mr. Cooper is about ready to kill Archie after he thinks he's had sex with Betty while they spent a night together in a motel room after running out of gas, and Betty's clothes got wet when she fell in the lake, so of course she had to remove them to dry them out... He gets a little too hung up on the fact that the word "SEXY" appeared in a word balloon in big letters in that one story.

He's also incorrectly identified the artist of "Saved by the Bell" as Dan DeCarlo, when it was, in actual fact, Dan DeCarlo JUNIOR, and says so right in the credits.

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All About Archie / Classic Betty & Veronica is BACK for $2.99
« on: February 08, 2018, 06:32:29 PM »
Dan Parent! Bill Gollher! 


It says it's an ongoing.  Let's support this thing so it doesn't get Your Pal Archied. 


This ROCKS!!!


https://www.cbr.com/betty-veronica-friends-forever-classic-archie-returns/

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All About Archie / Re: Riverdale Reviewed
« on: August 25, 2017, 08:19:03 PM »
Hey Tuxedo Mark, just wanted to let you know I do read your reviews.  I rarely watch the animated stuff, but I do like seeing the screen shots and hearing your comments. Thanks for keeping your review page going all this time.  :)

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All About Archie / Re: Riverdale episode 5
« on: February 24, 2017, 10:37:00 AM »
I made this meme earlier this week from one of the previews, just to highlight Mrs. Blossom's bitchiness. :)

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All About Archie / Re: Sliding timeline
« on: February 15, 2017, 12:27:53 AM »
Amazing collection of info, Mark.  I'll have to really think if anything of importance is missing.   I appreciate you updating this periodically. It's cool to read and reflect upon.

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Other Media / Re: Sabrina the Teenage Witch (1996 series)
« on: January 14, 2017, 01:01:27 PM »
Heh, I assumed all of that stuff WAS in the comics, and the TV series simply copied it.

I was aware the aunts were de-aged in the comics to match the show, but it's lame that they felt the need to explain it. They never explained the de-aging of any other adults.

The comics to look at to see what was changed would be this one-shot special and the following ongoing series:

http://www.comics.org/series/19972/

http://www.comics.org/series/11973/

Well, obviously Sabrina's own title would not have been revived if not for the show airing on television at the time. Yet the comics didn't merely copy everything that was an invention of the TV show, either. The aunts get de-aged in the one-shot special, which they presumably felt the need to explain because Dan Parent had been doing a completely different version of Sabrina (Sabrina at Gravestone Heights 91313) in the comic book ARCHIE & FRIENDS in the early 1990s, and that version spun off into 3 Sabrina holiday annual giants from 1993-1995 (and the TV one-shot was in 1996).

There was probably no plausible way to explain the major changes in Salem, so they didn't bother. While Salem had been appearing in the comics off and on up to that time, he was definitely a minor supporting cast member, except for the very occasional odd short that focused on his animal adventures - much less important, say, than Hot Dog is in Jughead's series. The changes made him one of the most important supporting cast members for Sabrina, although as he's drawn in the 1997 series, he more closely resembles Sebastian from Josie & the Pussycats than the pure black cat on the television show. In the 1997 series, Salem begins as a continuing semi-regular series of backup shorts. At the very end of the 2011 Sabrina comic series, Salem took over the comic (post-manga Sabrina) for a 4-issue miniseries -- but not as a cat; that series told of his adventures as a young warlock before the transgression for which he was punished by the Witches' Council by being sentenced to live as a cat.

The other stuff was added piecemeal, but not having watched the TV show much, I can't really tell you which stuff from the TV show they just chose to ignore. Any elements taken from the live-action show would have been only in SABRINA THE TEENAGE WITCH (1997) #1-31 (I think they managed to work a photo shot of MJH on to just about every cover), because after that it morphed into "Sabrina the Animated Series" (and yes, the change was explained in the story in the final issue, #32, before re-launching with the animated pre-teen SABRINA #1 in 2011 -- just as it was explained away again when Holly G took over and Sabrina reverted back to a teenager in issue #38 of that same series).

Not sure what you mean by the "de-aging of other adults". Who, specifically?  I guess there was Cousin Ambrose, which I don't think they explained in the comic, but he was a different story from the aunts, not having appeared much (if at all) since the early 1980s.

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Story Help / Re: Where was "Color Coded" originally printed?
« on: September 20, 2016, 07:50:32 PM »
There are a couple of affordable copies available at Mycomicshop.com - $3 in vg+ and $3.70 in fine- - in case you are interested.

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Story Help / Re: Where was "Color Coded" originally printed?
« on: September 20, 2016, 06:24:16 PM »
The story, "Color Coded", was my first Cheryl story, but I read it as a reprint in my first Archie digest in 1990. The story was also reprinted in one of the later "Cheryl Blossom Special" issues (albeit in slightly censored form) as a flashback. But where did the story first appear?

Possibly this issue of ARCHIE, from November 1983.

Comicbookdb.com says that this issue contains a story titled "Color Coded", and that both Cheryl and Jason Blossom appear in that story. Not having the comic myself, I can't confirm.

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Story Help / Re: Where was "Color Coded" originally printed?
« on: September 20, 2016, 06:02:35 PM »
I believe it was from Archie #326 - Nov. 1983

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General Discussion / Re: What's high school like today?
« on: September 07, 2016, 01:17:47 AM »
I don't mean to veer away from the original intent of Mark's thread, but I'm interested in hearing about High School from any era.  I find the later school years fascinating, in specific the socialization aspects that likely affect most of us for many years following.

I was suprised to see Rusty's school start at 7:45.  We started at 7:55 and that was way earlier than any others in the district.  We were let out at 2:40, so in a span of six hours and forty-five minutes we had nine "mods"(modules or classes). One Mod was lunch and two mods bookended the lunch so we had one class that lasted an hour in essence. There was a four minute break between classes, so that made each mod(class) somewhere around 46 minutes when all said and done.  On Wednesdays we had a dedicated "club" or activity period added(yearbook, debate team, drama, etc.) so class periods were even shorter that day except for the ones wrapping lunch.  Class periods were only about 35-36 minutes those days including the four minute break so the day just flew by.

Some kids who had classes like auto or woodshop, Vo-Ag, Phys. Ed., etc. had a full hour class before or after lunch, so there were three lunch periods(mods) each day.

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General Discussion / Re: What's high school like today?
« on: September 06, 2016, 11:15:28 PM »
I teach high school math in a suburb of Detroit and have been there since 1994.  We still have the state mandated fire and tornado drills.  We also have two lockdown drills per year.  I think this is also state mandated.  I don't think we've had any bomb threats in the past decade.  They were a bit of a fad after Columbine, but aren't an issue for us.

My students take notes in composition books, in spiral  notebooks or on looseleaf paper.  I haven't had any students take notes on computer.  I've never really used scantrons, but a few teachers still use them.  Mostly for final exams I think.  My students will hand write their math papers, but most type their English papers/essay.  Some teachers allow these papers to be submitted digitally through google docs or google classroom.   My pre-calculus class still uses textbooks, but our textbooks for the algebra and geometry classes are old and outdated due to common core so we don't use them anymore.  Most of the stuff we use is teacher created or worksheets.

My school starts at 7:45 and gets out at 3:30 which is a bit longer than many area schools.  We have 6 classes of about 68 minutes plus 30 minutes for lunch.  We have advisory on Wednesdays combined with a late start for staff meetings so classes are only 40 minutes long.

We have computer carts in each classroom and I will give practice quizzes using sites called kahoot and quizizz from time to time.   Standardized testing is done on the computers now, except for the SAT which is still paper and pencil.  Some teachers use the computers  more than others.   I write my notes on a smart board and can actually save the notes and email them to students who were absent.  The class also has a white board that I use for some things.  We stopped having chalk boards when our new building was built a decade ago.  I think most schools have switched over to white boards and/or smart boards.  I also have a document camera that I use.

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General Discussion / Re: What's high school like today?
« on: September 06, 2016, 10:31:32 PM »
I graduated highschool in 2011. My grade, including me, graduated 99 students. I went to a small school. It actually first started on the college campus so I had high school at the college  for 1 year before the schools official location was built. I loved it because i think we were the only high school on my area that had a building for gym and got to go to the college cafeteria for lunch. We were able to get fresh air without getting in trouble for cutting XD

Anyways, I had what they call "blocks" like A Block, B Block , C Block all the way until G Block. A Block = 1st Period. B Block = 2nd period. Freshman year classes were scrambled so different times each day but that stopped Sophomore year. School started at 8:20am and ended at 3:20pm except Wednesdays we went in at 9:15am and Fridays got out at 2:30pm. No homeroom. We had "advisory" which was a class with the same teacher and students every year. But i heard now that its a different class each year with different students and teachers yearly. It got changed:/ .

I had to take two city buses but freshman year since the bus was in a different location the first bus I took had a bunch of students who went to a different high school and people kept looking at me funny for not getting off the city bus to to go "school" even though I was on my way to school just not the school everyone on my bus went too.

scantrons still used with #2 pencils or a paper the teacher came up with.
essays were always typed.
i still used textbooks and my sister who is 17 and in high school uses textbooks too.
notes are still in notebooks.
One thing we had in school was a thing called  "engrade" which is an online website the teachers used and they put your grades on their so you can track your progress in class. I liked it because that way I could see if I had to bump up my grade

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All About Archie / Re: Complete list of new digest stories?
« on: September 03, 2016, 06:40:52 PM »
So here's an interesting example of an inventoried story. WORLD OF ARCHIE ANNUAL #62 (which just came in the mail today) has a lead story written by Alex Simmons and drawn by Rex Lindsey titled "Happiness Is A Wagging Tale". Now, I'm not going to try to figure out when the last time I read a new story drawn by Rex Lindsey was, but let's just say... "it's been a while".

The interesting bit here is that this is one of those stories that contains a rarely-seen editorial footnote, referencing Vegas's appearance and adoption by Archie as a pet (*See ARCHIE DOUBLE DIGEST #244). #244?? Archie Double Digest is up to issue #271 now! ADD #244 came out in November of 2013. It hardly seems like they'd footnote a story from that long ago, so a reasonable guess-timate would be to assume this story was written and drawn sometime within a year of that (more likely, mere months from issue #244). This story would appear to have been sitting on the shelf for two years, give or take a couple of months.

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All About Archie / Re: Complete list of new digest stories?
« on: August 30, 2016, 07:09:22 PM »
When I spoke to Dan Parent a couple of weeks ago, he confirmed that he is indeed the only artist left doing new classic Archie stories for ACP. The stories described in solicitations as "lead" (but not as "new") may either have appeared somewhere before, or been completed some time ago and were part of an inventory of stories that haven't appeared elsewhere prior to their recent digest appearances.

So, at Grand Comics Database, if a story is credited solely to Dan Parent in a recent digest, and it doesn't have a reprint note, it's probably new, right?

I didn't think to ask him about this specifically, but I get the impression that there isn't any backlog of inventoried stories that Dan Parent drew which haven't seen print to this point. I think you can safely assume that the Dan Parent lead stories seen in the digests in the last couple of years are his most recent work. I think I would have noticed in the solicitations if they failed to describe one of DP's lead stories as 'new', so I don't think that's happened yet. The Kennedy brothers stories you're still seeing appear as the leads in digests this year since April/May or so are inventory stories, and those of a few other artists.

I haven't seen a digest lead story that I can recall having read somewhere before so far, but that's fairly meaningless, given that I have a pretty incomplete collection of Archie Comics from the 5 or 10 years preceding 2014. Seeing as how issues from that same time period are only randomly indexed at GCD, I don't know how you'd tell for sure if the non-DP stories represented their first appearance in print, or a reprint, unless you could remember having read it before, or point to a specific issue where it had appeared previously. Added to that, there's no real way of estimating how big an inventory of unpublished material ACP might still have on hand, or exactly how far back those stories might go, in terms of when they were written and drawn. So if a digest solicitation text doesn't describe the lead story as "new", then what exactly does that mean -- it's been published before, or maybe just that it was written & drawn some time ago, but never published before?

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All About Archie / Re: Complete list of new digest stories?
« on: August 30, 2016, 03:10:04 PM »
When I spoke to Dan Parent a couple of weeks ago, he confirmed that he is indeed the only artist left doing new classic Archie stories for ACP. The stories described in solicitations as "lead" (but not as "new") may either have appeared somewhere before, or been completed some time ago and were part of an inventory of stories that haven't appeared elsewhere prior to their recent digest appearances.

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