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#1
All About Archie / Re: Riverdale Reviewed
May 08, 2022, 05:02:24 PM
I review "Spaced Out!" from Cheryl Blossom #13.
#2
All About Archie / Re: Riverdale Reviewed
May 07, 2022, 07:03:32 PM
I review "What a Nice Trip!" from Cheryl Blossom #13.
#3
With very few one-shots coming out these days as it is, why is Archie Comics doing random AU stories? And why are they hyping it? I'd rather have canonical stories set in Riverdale.
#4
All About Archie / Re: Riverdale Reviewed
May 03, 2022, 06:32:05 PM
I review "Wigged Out" from Cheryl Blossom #12.
#5
By my calculations, as of season 6, episode 6, Riverdale has surpassed the entire Filmation Archieverse in terms of length (including Archie, Sabrina, Groovy Goolies, etc.), making it the largest televised continuity (and that's not even including Chilling Adventures of Sabrina and Katy Keene, which are in the same continuity).
#6
All About Archie / Re: Nobody here anymore?
April 19, 2022, 12:26:43 PM
Quote from: Fernando Ruiz on April 18, 2022, 12:12:21 AMJohanna Draper Carlson!! I'd forgotten about her! They despised her up at the Office! Where has she been? Does she still report on Archie's sales?

She's still very active on that site. However, there doesn't seem to be much, if any, recent coverage of anything Archie.

Why was she despised at the office?
#7
All About Archie / Re: Nobody here anymore?
April 15, 2022, 10:54:45 PM
Oh, and here's a post regarding Archie Comics' sales figures for 2012 (the last year for which this site had made a post for that information, it seems).
#8
All About Archie / Re: Nobody here anymore?
April 15, 2022, 10:38:18 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 15, 2022, 03:43:54 PMDo they? News to me. I can't recall seeing such a page anywhere in any digests I've read. I mean, a LONG time ago, the USPS had postal regulations that required comics to annually print a "Statement of Ownership, Management and Circulation" in order to qualify for reduced mailing rates, but it's been decades since those postal regulations have been in effect.

I was pretty sure someone on this forum (before the reset) posted circulation figures, so I did a keyword search for "circulation" through my archive of the threads that I'd happened to save from the old forum.

The following post was made by user Forsythe:

QuoteOur Vanishing America Teen-ager
« on: March 29, 2009, 01:37:30 AM »
QUOTE
I've thought of putting a list like this together for years, the recent discussions of last years sales data inspired me. The only number that really matters is the Total Paid Circulation, average numbers of copies over the preceeding 12 months. Single issue nearest to filing date means only that.

This is for the title Archie!

This info is from the publishers statement found in the comics. This info can be found usually in the April issue, sometimes March, sometimes May or June.

The filing date until 1996 was always Oct 1st, then it started moving around a little. Starting in 1995 they began to mention which issues this info covered, it stayed very consistant Oct-Sept, so the 2008 numbers were for the Oct 2007 - Sept 2008 issues. The earliest statement that included the actual numbers is from the April 1961 issue . The total print run numbers didn't start until 1963, but here goes

Total Paid Circulation is the first number, the total print run is the second number

1960 - 500,200
1961 - 458,039
1962 - 457,689
1963 - 471,166 - 847,177
1964 - 484,704 - 852,794
1965 - 467,552 - 850,115
1966 - 491,691 - 857,136
1967 - 484,648 - 869,130
1968 - 566,587 - 910,507
1969 - 515,536 - 886,643
1970 - 482,945 - 853,590
1971 - 482,101 - 884,292
1972 - 390,408 - 810,400
1973 - 345,087 - 748,465
1974 - 272,272 - 528,601
1975 - 199,918 - 453,574
1976 - 181,827 - 423,959
1977 - 155,252 - 360,831
1978 - 137,620 - 346,308
1979 - 121,530 - 303,952
1980 -   89,409 - 266,468
1981 -   87,302 - 244,478
1982 -   67,693 - 212,613
1983 -   69,697 - 169,624
1984 -   64,781 - 158,298
1985 -   63,143 - 157,750
1986 -   67,059 - 178,673
1987 -   66,176 - 194,181
1988 -   74,223 - 200,363
1989 -   67,423 - 188,864
1990 -   56,855 - 179,586
1991 -   45,960 - 150,515
1992 -   47,530 - 167,245
1993 -   44,547 - 152,085
1994 -   46,033 - 153,534
1995 -   43,885 - 142,193
1996 -   43,298 - 129,795
1997 -   41,134 - 130,481
1998 -   35,801 - 112,065
1999 -   29,361 -   93,621
2000 -   27,551 -   83,356
2001 -   24,285 -   67,590
2002 -   21,456 -   63,302
2003 -   19,945 -   53,330
2004 -   18,137 -   49,451
2005 -   18,020 -   54,589
2006 -   18,765 -   52,492
2007 -   25,305 -   53,647
2008 -   13,259 -   36,774

pretty scary!

:o
#9
All About Archie / Re: Nobody here anymore?
April 14, 2022, 10:03:28 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 14, 2022, 02:13:47 PMMike Pellerito claimed in one recent digest text page that people were subscribing to the digests in record numbers, whether that's true or just hype.

Don't they print the circulation figures in the digests once per year? That could be something to check.
#10
All About Archie / Re: Nobody here anymore?
April 12, 2022, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2022, 08:45:31 PMUnless I mis-read the opening paragraphs of Hibbs' article, the NPD BookScan is tracking book sales in general... of which the Graphic Novel, Collected Edition, Trade Paperback, or whatever you want to call them is a subset. I point this out because it seems to me that the NPD BookScan is not tracking periodical sales at all. That means it tells us nothing about how Archie digests are selling in the bookstores. So all we're really getting out of this is that ACP's best-selling trade collection didn't do better that 3k in bookstores.

Hmm, yeah, that's probably right. Digests probably aren't represented. Then again, on my last trip to a Books-A-Million, I don't recall seeing any digests or standard floppy comics at all, just collected editions and manga. Honestly, even on Amazon, I don't see physical editions of new floppies or digests for sale - except maybe at a markup.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 12, 2022, 08:45:31 PMCome to think of it, I'm not really sure what the definition of "bookstores" is from NPD BookScan's POV. Are we talking just the physical brick & mortar stores, or are they including online booksellers? How about online sellers like Amazon where book sales only make up a small fraction of their total sales?

Hibbs says "These reflect actual sales made through bookstores that report to NPD, which includes Amazon."
#11
All About Archie / Re: Nobody here anymore?
April 11, 2022, 07:55:21 PM
I checked Amazon, and the only categories where Archie even cracks the Top 100 are some hyper-specific children's comics categories. All of those are the classic-style comics. No Riverdale. No New Riverdale. No Archie Horror. No idea what that translates to in terms of sales, though.

I was reading Brian Hibbs' annual column where he discussed the previous year's Top 750 comics according to NPD BookScan, which claims to represent about 85% of physical book sales in North America outside the comic book Direct Market (comic shops). In other words, actual physical bookstores and online sellers. Physical books only, though; no digital copies. Not one title from Archie even made the list. I asked him about it in the comments, and he wrote:

QuoteThe best-selling comic from Archie, however, is "80 Years of Christmas" and it sells well under 3k copies.


So there you have it. The best-selling Archie book out in the real world beyond the comics shop sold far less than 3,000 copies last year.
#12
All About Archie / Re: Riverdale Reviewed
April 09, 2022, 04:24:04 PM
I review "Talent who needs it?" from Cheryl Blossom #12.
#13
All About Archie / Re: Nobody here anymore?
April 07, 2022, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: Fernando Ruiz on April 06, 2022, 11:17:43 PMAt the end, I was told that a Thirty-Two had to sell five thousand copies in order to be profitable. I have no idea if this threshold remains today or what the current publishing philosophy is.

I just checked Comichron for July and September of last year. In July, the all-reprint Archie & Friends Summer Vacation floppy sold an estimated 2,376 units. In September, the B&V Friends Forever Halloween Spooktacular floppy, which contained a new lead story, sold an estimated 6,871 copies. So it seems adding even just one new story boosts sales considerably. It's far above the higher-priced digests that also have a new lead story. The highest-charting digest that month, World of Betty & Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest #8, sold only 959 copies in the Direct Market. Not sure what they're selling at places like Walmart and Publix.
#14
All About Archie / Re: Nobody here anymore?
April 06, 2022, 05:26:43 PM
I don't think the money's there, either from ACP to publish or from the consumers to buy. I just checked Comichron. In July 2020, Sabrina: Something Wicked #2 was in the mid-100s, and Archie #713 (the final issue) was just below the Top 200. And sales have only gone down since then. The long-delayed Chilling Adventures of Sabrina #9 went to #162, and there have been no new issues since. I haven't seen any charts from this year, but I can't imagine the numbers are good. And I see digests hit the shelves at stores long after I've already read the new stories for free on Amazon. And the new stories seem rushed and contain barely any plot. Maybe they oughta invest in creating a new OGN once per year, so they can add to their catalog of ready-packaged material.

Or do prose novellas. Mike Pellowski did the Riverdale High series back in 1991-1992, and there have been scattershot attempts at more prose stories since then.
#15
All About Archie / Re: Riverdale Reviewed
March 29, 2022, 08:13:52 PM
I review "Stop The Presses" from Cheryl Blossom #12.