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Days we look foward to as Archie Fans. by BettyReggie
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Library Books That You All Read by BettyReggie
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What are you currently watching? by DeCarlo Rules
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What have you done today? by Archiecomicxfan215
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Rick and Morty by SAGG
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Latest Hauls, what did you buy? by DeCarlo Rules
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Betty and Cheryl by Tuxedo Mark
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North American comics sales 2011-2016 by DeCarlo Rules
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  • Vegan Jughead: My wife used to watch him on All My Children.  He's kind of a weird choice for Mr. Lodge, but I guess no weirder than the rest of the characters!
    Today at 07:47:21 AM
  • Tuxedo Mark: First look at Hiram: [link]
    September 18, 2017, 02:33:09 PM
  • BettyReggie: The Archie Andrew Show is on the radio right now. It's about Archie getting Veronica bubble bath for party.
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    September 17, 2017, 12:15:34 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Only one Josie comic. About a dozen issues of Sabrina, a dozen issues of Veronica, a dozen Archie Giant Series issues, half-a-dozen B&V Spectaculars, 9 FCBD and HCF issues I was missing. A bunch of different #100, 200, 300 & 400 issues, and a bunch of miscellaneous stuff.
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    September 16, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Aw, but it's just a publicity shot. They didn't replicate the most important aspect of that iconic image, which is that Betty is looking at Archie, Archie is looking at Veronica, and Veronica is looking at no one...
    September 16, 2017, 01:14:47 AM
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    September 15, 2017, 08:30:23 PM
  • Vegan Jughead: I wouldn't exactly call that "feeling up", perv!  LOL
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  • Tuxedo Mark: Vegan Jughead: It is! And I just noticed Betty's feeling up Veronica.
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    September 14, 2017, 09:30:12 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: That cover is SO HOT!
    September 14, 2017, 08:59:45 AM
  • Tuxedo Mark: Archie, Veronica, Jughead, and Betty on the cover of "Entertainment Weekly": [link]
    September 14, 2017, 08:49:50 AM
  • Tuxedo Mark: Yeah, they're all fine. Thanks for asking. :)
    September 13, 2017, 08:28:35 PM
  • steveinthecity: @Tuxedo Mark - Hope the chickens made it through unscathed.
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    September 13, 2017, 09:11:17 AM
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    September 13, 2017, 07:22:57 AM
  • Tuxedo Mark: Back! Power went out around 9:16ish PM on Sunday night and came back on around 6:30 PM tonight, so a little over 45 hours without power. It was unpleasant, but we didn't suffer any major damage. On Monday morning (after the storm had passed), a mirror in a hallway, which had been hanging for "at least 25 years" (according to my mom), fell for no apparent reason. The middle section broke into little pieces, but they all stayed in place. None of them fell on the floor. Also, the storm destroyed part of the chicken cage, due to water building up on the tarp, so we removed the tarp and fixed the cage as best as we could. Other than that, just a lot of sweeping and raking.
    September 12, 2017, 07:13:19 PM

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General Discussion / Re: What are you currently watching?
« on: September 17, 2017, 07:23:10 PM »
I'm embarrassed to say it, since it was released several years back, but I just saw WALL-E, and I loved it! Best-looking of the Pixar movies I've seen, and a great storyline to boot! I've had plenty of time over the weekend to look at stuff, since I can't go back to work for the moment: I have the shingles, and it hurts like I'm on fire....  :P :(

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General Discussion / Re: What are you currently watching?
« on: September 17, 2017, 07:17:00 PM »























SPOILER ALERT!
















I just watched Batman and Harley Quinn, and it looked exactly like the original Batman Adventures, but something was...off about it. It was light-hearted in spots, almost over the top in that category, such as tapping the mid-60's Batman TV series. Heck, it was flat-out weird. What were the writers aiming for, I wonder? I anticipated Swamp Thing coming on the scene, and he did by rising out of the swamp water, but his merely giving a speech, then vanishing back into the water? Seriously? Huh?  ??? Missing something, here....

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General Discussion / Re: Rick and Morty
« on: September 16, 2017, 09:05:26 PM »
I just watched part of an episode online. It's pretty close to the comic book (or vice-versa).

Now that I think about it, it reminds me of sort of a cross between Futurama and Family Guy. Not any of the characters per se, but just a fusion of those general vibes.
Which one did you watch? Did you like it?  :coolsmiley:

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General Discussion / Re: Rick and Morty
« on: September 16, 2017, 07:07:30 AM »
I've read the comic book. It's pretty weird.
I've never read the comic book. On TV though, it's great....

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General Discussion / Rick and Morty
« on: September 16, 2017, 12:05:44 AM »
Anybody here watch it? Man, I tell you, to me this is the best animated show on tv. Can't wait to see more of Evil Morty....

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All About Archie / Re: Betty & Veronica - Lucey vs. DeCarlo
« on: September 10, 2017, 11:31:29 PM »
Lucey vs. DeCarlo? I didn't know they were competing against each other...  :2funny:

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All About Archie / Re: Betty & Veronica - Lucey vs. DeCarlo
« on: September 09, 2017, 11:33:57 PM »
They say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
I find DeCarlo's B&V more visually appealing overall. Even when the girl's facial expressions are mad or angry, they still look cute to me. When Lucey draws B&V angry--they're not so cute. Just my opinion.
I do think that Lucey's Archie seems to display a wider range of expressions than Archie's DeCarlo's, and he's good at capturing the physical slapstick-type situations.


In the bottom panel, this is NOT Betty. I remember this story....

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Reviews / Re: JOSIE reprint collections - Contents Listings and Comparison
« on: September 07, 2017, 04:19:43 AM »
Schultz to me never left the house style. Parent evolved form DeCarlo's...

Dan Parent was largely mentored early in his employment at ACP by Dan DeCarlo, and you can find many stories from the early days of Dan P's career that are co-credited to the two Dans. The "traditional Archie Comics style" was Dan DeCarlo's style, and every artist who was employed by ACP after Dan started working there was encouraged to study his work, and adhere to that style as closely as possible. That didn't apply to artists who started working for ACP before DeCarlo came on board full-time in 1958, like Harry Lucey and Samm Schwartz, but to everyone else, yes. Even the younger generation of artists who started at the company in the late 1980s/early 1990s stuck very close to the house style until the 21st century, when they were at last allowed to express their individuality a little more distinctly.

Jeff Schultz always seemed like the one who was earliest able to master the DeCarlo style, and he never seemed to vary from that right up to the present. I can detect very little difference between his earlier work and his most recent work, and I must admit it took me some time at first to even be able to distinguish Jeff's work from DeCarlo's on uncredited stories from the 1990s. Nor is Jeff's uncanny ability to closely mimic another artist's style limited to Dan DeCarlo's, as anyone whose seen his work on Boom Studios' PEANUTS comic book can attest. Jeff is a fantastic artist, and I can't wait to see those new issues of his and Darin Henry's SUPER 'SUCKERS!
Is there a link where I can see Schultz's work on Peanuts, DR? Thanks in advance....

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Reviews / Re: JOSIE reprint collections - Contents Listings and Comparison
« on: September 06, 2017, 11:24:22 PM »
Yeah, now that I started thinking about all the stuff that was happening at Archie (and in the comics industry at large) from the beginning of the 1990s to when Stan Goldberg died, and the factors around him that may have had an impact on him somehow, it all seems to make more sense.

When did his work begin to look noticeably not as inspired any more? Seems to me it's right around the time when Jack Kirby died without getting any satisfaction from Marvel (1994), and coincidentally or not, that also happens to coincide with about the time that the next generation of Archie artists, recruited by the company in the late 1980s and early 1990s, began to assert their skills with confidence. Rex Lindsey was the first one to begin getting the more high-profile, better-paying assignments, like covers, pin-up posters in the 48-Page Giants, and merchandising artwork. Dan Parent was beginning to emerge from the shadow of his mentor, Dan DeCarlo, and he and Jeff Schultz became to the go-to guys for B&V covers and stories when Dan DeCarlo couldn't do it all. At first when these guys started, they just tended to be learning their craft and working at blending in with the house style, but as the mid-1990s were approaching, now they were beginning to step up as the new top talents.

Frank Doyle died around 1996, so maybe some of the feeling wasn't there for Stan in the scripts of the younger writers, as well. Then in 1997 Samm Schwartz died too. Guess who took up the slack of those pages he used to fill? Goldberg had to be feeling his mortality at his age, too. Then by 2000 there was that mess of DeCarlo vs. Archie Comic Publications, and you can't blame Dan for wanting to leave something for his kids and grandkids, but the reality of the outcome of that had to be a real joykiller for Goldberg too, and once again, who took up the slack of those pages that DeCarlo used to fill? I mean, that's about when it really seems like for Goldberg it became a question of... The countdown clock is ticking, so how much juice can I squeeze out of this lemon before it's completely dry? Like it was some kind of race against time for him to get his financial affairs squared away before work was no longer going to be available to him someday, and like he felt that was really his only salable commodity as a freelancer, to be able to fill all those pages by deadline, and be known as the guy who was a reliable workhorse. In a way, it's a lucky thing (it sounds awful to say it) that Stan died before the whole 2015 reboot thing happened, and I think he was probably aware that he wasn't going to merit any more special consideration for his "lifetime achievement" than Fernando Ruiz got for his 25 years of service.   :'(
Schultz to me never left the house style. Parent evolved form DeCarlo's....

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: September 04, 2017, 04:24:30 AM »
What I can't understand is why Marvel can't get Fantastic Four going movie-wise, the same for Silver Surfer. They seem to get the other Marvel characters well...  ???

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Reviews / Re: JOSIE reprint collections - Contents Listings and Comparison
« on: September 04, 2017, 04:20:33 AM »
Yeah, now that I started thinking about all the stuff that was happening at Archie (and in the comics industry at large) from the beginning of the 1990s to when Stan Goldberg died, and the factors around him that may have had an impact on him somehow, it all seems to make more sense.

When did his work begin to look noticeably not as inspired any more? Seems to me it's right around the time when Jack Kirby died without getting any satisfaction from Marvel (1994), and coincidentally or not, that also happens to coincide with about the time that the next generation of Archie artists, recruited by the company in the late 1980s and early 1990s, began to assert their skills with confidence. Rex Lindsey was the first one to begin getting the more high-profile, better-paying assignments, like covers, pin-up posters in the 48-Page Giants, and merchandising artwork. Dan Parent was beginning to emerge from the shadow of his mentor, Dan DeCarlo, and he and Jeff Schultz became to the go-to guys for B&V covers and stories when Dan DeCarlo couldn't do it all. At first when these guys started, they just tended to be learning their craft and working at blending in with the house style, but as the mid-1990s were approaching, now they were beginning to step up as the new top talents.

Frank Doyle died around 1996, so maybe some of the feeling wasn't there for Stan in the scripts of the younger writers, as well. Then in 1997 Samm Schwartz died too. Guess who took up the slack of those pages he used to fill? Goldberg had to be feeling his mortality at his age, too. Then by 2000 there was that mess of DeCarlo vs. Archie Comic Publications, and you can't blame Dan for wanting to leave something for his kids and grandkids, but the reality of the outcome of that had to be a real joykiller for Goldberg too, and once again, who took up the slack of those pages that DeCarlo used to fill? I mean, that's about when it really seems like for Goldberg it became a question of... The countdown clock is ticking, so how much juice can I squeeze out of this lemon before it's completely dry? Like it was some kind of race against time for him to get his financial affairs squared away before work was no longer going to be available to him someday, and like he felt that was really his only salable commodity as a freelancer, to be able to fill all those pages by deadline, and be known as the guy who was a reliable workhorse. In a way, it's a lucky thing (it sounds awful to say it) that Stan died before the whole 2015 reboot thing happened, and I think he was probably aware that he wasn't going to merit any more special consideration for his "lifetime achievement" than Fernando Ruiz got for his 25 years of service.   :'(
Interesting points, DR. DeCarlo was the only one who "fought" ACP, and paid a price for it. Goldberg and Schwartz "got in line". Bolling? I suppose he did as well...

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All About Archie / Re: Your Pal Archie #2
« on: September 03, 2017, 06:37:42 AM »
In the world of Archie Comics, concussions are always cause for hilarity ensuing.  ;D

I liked #1, if only for the reason of getting some new classic Archie stories again, and longer ones. I think I liked the Jughead learning to drive story better than the first part of Archie wins the lottery, but whether it's because I've gotten past the redesigned looks now or whatever, I have to say I liked #2 overall a lot better, especially the conclusion of the 2-parter. Reggie getting amnesia from a bonk on the head sounds like a real throwback to the Doyle-Lucey kind of stories from the late-50s/early-60s, which is a good thing.
I think Reggie's faking it. He's up to a massive joke on everyone.... :)

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Reviews / Re: Archie & Friends Double Digest #30
« on: August 27, 2017, 05:38:14 PM »
Scary thought: Were the 80's the last great Archie story period?  :-\

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Heh. "ChAos". "Chaos", as in what is happening at ACP. Quite the Freudian slip there, DR. Or was it?  ;D

Chaos (or "Khaos") Magick is another name for Black Magic, SAGG. I'm not sure, but I think it may have originated as RPGing terminology, since "alignments" with either Order or Chaos are important character attributes in game characters. (A magician, sorcerer, warlock or witch aligned with Order would be a user of White Magick.) A Chaos magician is increasing the balance of Chaos over Order in the universe by helping spread disorder and disharmony.

When Chilling Adventures of Sabrina first came out, I realized that was going to be too long to type more than once, so I went for an acronym, the same as people started abbreviating Afterlife With Archie as AWA. "CAS" may be even shorter, but it just isn't as serendipitous as "ChAoS" for Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, and I've been abbreviating it that way every time I have had occasion to comment on it since it debuted. I don't call it merely "Sabrina" to distinguish it from Sabrina the Teenage Witch, which I've been known to comment on from time to time, possibly even within a post discussing ChAoS -- and in my mind at least, the two Sabrinas are really completely different characters.
I was just being facetious, DR. You know, tongue in cheek....

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Now that I think about it, the whole Adam Hughes' B&V thing has been pretty disastrous for the company. What were they thinking, trying to publish Reggie and Josie titles before they could even get an ongoing (as in published at least bi-monthly) Betty and Veronica title established as a stable title?

Instead, what B&V contributed to the company was 3 issues that took an entire year to come out. That is bad. It's worse for a company that already publishes two other "ongoing" titles that only manage to come out once a year: Afterlife With Archie and Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. It sends THIS message to the consumers: "Don't get involved. It will only lead to frustration. They love to promise more than they can actually deliver. It's not worth the grief."

If they'd been thinking, they would have made a B&V title the very next priority after the rebooted Archie. Get a stable creative team that will commit to the title for at least 12 issues, and can deliver pages on time every 6 weeks, or less. Jughead should have been title #3, and once that was up and running, THEN, and only then, with both Archie and B&V coming out on a regular basis, something like Josie, or Reggie, or Veronica, or Betty, or Sabrina. Not too quickly... they should have let B&V build for a year before the next big title, Jughead. Then another 6-8 months before the next title, but only once they'd established some stability.

Between AWA, ChAoS, B&V, and all the various solicit-then-cancel products, they torpedoed any credibility they might have had as a publisher.
Heh. "ChAos". "Chaos", as in what is happening at ACP. Quite the Freudian slip there, DR. Or was it?  ;D

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