I think Bob White is probably my favorite Archie Comics artist. 

This is a great cartoon.  The animation is very well done.  However, I was very disappointed to discover that the DVD does not include closed captioning.  This is particularly difficult to understand b/c the cartoon must have been closed captioned when it first aired in 1999.  Why wouldn't these DVDs be closed captioned?

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Okay, I'm supposed to believe that Kevin Keller cannot find another guy in Rivedale? Look at Riverdale! It's liberal city!!! You have every minority, drugs, relationships on various age levels! Do you know how many characters have pulled a reverse Michael Jackson?  And he has to go to the wood and no...I don't know what he does in the woods. I don't want to know what he does in the woods. Oh, and excuse Betty for not wanting you to go out at night when there's a killer about. Like, int he general area where Moose and Midge were shot at!!!

  Like I mentioned before, I think this show is being written by Republicans. 

Here is a key quote from that article: "and the show is on some level a deconstruction of the Archie myth that everything is safe, that everyone is good, that parents protect their children, that fundamentally the world is a good place — it felt like the ultimate subversion to that, the darkest, most taboo thing we could do, is a parent killing a child."
   I was thinking something similar as I saw the episode.  "Deconstructing the Archie myth" is certainly a poor premise for a show about Archie Comics, IMO.  The scenes of Clifford killing Jason and Clifford hanging himself are big stain on Archie Comics. 

  I was only referring to varsity jackets.  I knew about the varsity sweater.

I would say it was a good episode overall.  The Party Game started by Cheryl and Chuck was very stupid though.  It didn't make sense, and Jughead would have bailed in any case.  Jughead did a good example of acting out someone on the autism spectrum, although it's not clear to me that Jughead has autism.  Him referring to his hat as stupid seemed wrong.  I agree with his comment about not hanging out with Veronica, but I think the comment about not wanting to hang out with Kevin was wrong.  Remember in the comics Jughead is the first character Kevin comes out too.  I'm sure they would have been friends.  Chuck as a "pyscho" character is wrong. 
[/size]    There is a lot of good acting here, particularly from the actors playing Jughead, Betty, and Veronica. 

Richie Cunningham often wore a varsity jacket on Happy Days.  However, I do not think Archie ever wore a varsity jacket in the 1950s, although they certainly existed at that time.  When was the first time Archie wore a varsity jacket.  I am thinking it is not until at least the 1970s, maybe even the 1980s.

I seem to recall reading in I believe it was the first Archie book of reboot comics that there would not be "teenage pregnancies" in Archie Comics.  Oh well, the writer did say Comics, didn't they?  That's certainly not a change for the better.  They so rarely are.  The show is much too serious. 
    I totally don't understand the Hermione/Fred relationship in this show.  Hermione's husband just got sent to prison for embezzling a very large sum of money.  That would certainly constitute valid grounds for divorce for just about anybody.  She clearly wants to date another guy (Fred Andrews), so why doesn't she just divorce Hiram Lodge?  I don't get it.

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And it's consistent thereafter.

Not really. She seemed to switch between that and pigtails around the late 1990s / early 2000s (and maybe earlier; not sure) and also sometimes just plain wore her hair down (albeit rarely).

I meant for the 1950s, which seemed to be the point about which people were confused here. So in answer to the question "True or False: Betty had a ponytail in the 1950s"?, the correct answer is both True (she had a ponytail from 1957-1959), and False (she did not have a ponytail from 1950-1956).

I don't know when the scenes in the photos are imagined to be taking place, but I can assure you it's not the 1940s. The answer to whether the photos are accurate to the fashion of pre-1957 or 1957-onwards would be dependent on a single key visual clue in the photos -- Jughead's sneakers, which are Converse All-Stars. If he's wearing low-cut Oxford style Converse All-Stars, that would place the photos as from 1957 or later, because 1957 was the first year in which Converse manufactured the low-cut version of those sneakers. Prior to that all Converse All-Stars were hi-tops. I honestly can't tell from the photos, as it seems like Jughead's pants are obscuring a view of where the shoes are cut at the ankle.

  I'm a big fan of Converse All Stars and have been wearing them for many years.  Jughead is clearly not wearing Converse All Stars ("Chucks") in that photograph.  You can tell by the design on the toe cap and also the back heel area.  Those are PF Flyers.  Also, I doubt very much that Jughead wore sneakers in any 1950s Archie Comic (unless he was in gym class or actually engaged in a sport of some kind). 

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Don't get me wrong. I am still against the CW's show. I don't like it one bit, but I think, for me, a Betty/Reggie pairing would be the only redeemable thing. And I am still pissed off at Reggie's casting choice.

I don't like the casting either, Reggie should have a sharp edge to his looks and this guy is like a junior Brendan Fraser or something, he has all the menace of a giant panda. I'm sure he's a nice guy and maybe he's a good actor but to me he's not Reggie. But I think his Reggie might be a good match for Betty since he has such a "nice guy vibe." 






Here's a story where Reggie isn't nice to Betty like he usually is but I thought it was funny and it's a story I would be okay with my favorite couples in so I hope no one minds. Besides it goes with the jerk Jughead story I posted in the Jughead Veronica thread.

  The writer of that story made a big mistake by giving a monetary amount.  People reading that story today (and in the future) will think Reggie is being extremely cheap when at the time it was written that wouldn't have been the case.

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There should be more Reggie & Betty kissing panels/stories 


You guys know that I am not in favor of CW's Riverdale show, but if they were to make Reggie & Betty a couple, I think maybe, probably they could win me over with that 

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I looked up RiverDale on the Internet Movie Data Base & it said Reggie will only be in 16 episodes.The other will be in 23 episodes . And Reggie wasn't even shown in the trailer. So I hope they do put them together.

You guys are way more flexible than me, I don't want this clown show going near my favorite couples.




Heres a cute ad with Betty and Reggie for one of their stories.

Since when is Reggie with Jughead?

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Pairing someone like Betty with someone like Adam maybe nice in real life, but it's not very entertaining in a comic book setting.

And that's why she'll forever be obsessed with a guy like Archie, who isn't worth her time in real life. My point here is that Betty doesn't need anyone to "bring out her best in her". She already IS the best. She can cook, she can sew, she can fix a car. She can race cars. She can ski, surf, play baseball or basketball as well or better than any teenager. She's an A student. She can write. She reads a lot and is smart and well informed. She good at gardening, crafts, or just about any activity she tries her hand at or sets her mind to. She's pretty, in great shape, and looks good in anything she wears. She's got more talent in her little finger than Veronica has in her whole body. She's funny and fun to be with, and cares about animals and people, and about the things in life that really matter, not just the superficial stuff. Veronica has looks and money, and that's all she really needs. She's not dumb, but it wouldn't really matter if she was. She's got all she needs to get by in life. Betty wasn't born with money, but she's a real do-it-yourselfer who can make the best of any situation. She can do just about anything - except win the love of an idiot who's too dumb to appreciate her. All Betty really needs to do is realize there there are some things in life that aren't worth doing, like chasing Archie. She's just got to stop wasting her time with jerks who don't appreciate how exceptional she really is, and start dating guys who treat her how she deserves to be treated. But I guess that wouldn't be entertaining, so she dates Archie instead.

Imbibing Betty with every virtue and talent under the sun is not a good thing. She would be much more interesting if she was not so perfect.

An entertaining comic character does not necessarily have to be crazy about Archie.

And being crazy about Archie is exactly what makes her not perfect. That's the very imperfection about her that makes her fans crazy, because she'd have to be crazy to put up with him.

Yes, I agree, that's what made her entertaining back in the day, and was fodder for so many great stories. However, the love triangle has already given us everything it could have. Every possible idea that can come from it has been hashed, rehashed, reused, recycled. It ceased to be funny a long time ago.

Archie is Betty's kryptonite. Without it, she, like Superman, would be perfect. However, you don't see Superman go looking for kryptonite to weaken him. If he did, you'd have to think that there was something seriously wrong with Superman.


But here's the thing you have to realize. The entire 75-year history of Archie Comics hinges on this one, impossible, monstrously irrational premise. Without Betty's obsession for Archie, she's perfect, finds a great guy who appreciates her, lives happily (and boringly, to the readers) ever after. Veronica, without Betty to compete with over Archie, loses all interest in him. What is there about Archie to possibly interest Veronica? NOTHING. She's not interested in him, she's interested in beating Betty, because Betty's the best, and obviously the only worthy challenger to Veronica. So without that triangle, no Archie Comics.

    The newspaper strips (which I generally don't particularly like) rarely dealt with the love triangle. 

  Overall, I disliked episode #7.  There are certainly problems in the series. There needs to be less focus on the adults. There is no doubt that this show failing is bad for Archie Comics though. 
   Clearly Alexandra Cabot is not interested in a serious discussion of the subject at hand.   I'm not even sure she has seen the show she is criticizing. 

  I thought it was much too serious.  The pregnancy bit is over the top.  Also, the adults were very involved and I think they should really be in the background.

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It's shit.

    It's stupid comments like this that make using the Internet much less enjoyable than it should be.  No one gains anything from such a comment.   I think all of the changes from the comic books (there are many) are a mistake, but the show is still fairly interesting.  Veronica, in particular, is well acted.  I could not pass up the chance to see these characters on TV, in any case. I regret the overall serious tone.  I wish there were a lot more humor.   
    If nothing else, the actors make great photographs (screen caps). 

What's stupid about it?  I'm just stating facts as I see them.  Shit is shit, internet friend.  But if you are really upset about my opinion, here's a form you can fill out:

   Here is yet another waste of a post.  Again, you did not at all explain what you disliked about Riverdale.  It seems rather odd that you decry the moral breakdown of modern American society  in other threads and yet make posts like this.  I think we may be on to an Archie Comics Renaissance here.  That would be good no matter what happened in the show.  You could think of it like when the 3 Stooges reformed in 1959, although there was little (if anything) of artistic value after Shemp died in 1955.  Actually, I think this Riverdale Show could turn out to be quite good.