I love Trula stories. Jughead scores so many wins that it's delightful that somebody can outwit him. The fact that there's this question as to whether or not she likes him makes it even more interesting.
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I can't speak for all of Canada, but every mall I know of has hours it insists stores stay open. Department stores and restaurants are often open later, but every place has to be open until the mall is closed- this mystified me until I went to a mall with a lot of stores that'd shut down, and I realized that if stores closed whenever they wanted, then the mall would visually appear to be closing down or failing .
The only places around here that are allowed to close earlier are the travel agent shops and pharmacies- I assume it's because those people are trained professionals (like, more than us cashiers and can thus dictate their hours.
It makes the "outdoor shopping center" look more attractive to business owners, even if "walk-in traffic" is diminished.
I really hope malls don't fail, however. Shopping centers are lame places to visit compared to malls, the food is scattered everywhere instead of in one place, it's often freezing out, and anyone with kids will tell you it's REALLY inconvenient to have to walk from place to place with children (especially if they're in strollers). Malls are a god-send to people with kids.
It's simple:they have to pay staff to do nothing for hours on weekends
Malls enforce the hours that businesses have to stay open.
Certain times of the day are infamously slow in malls, such as weekends after 6pm or so, some holidays, early mornings, etc. When I worked in a mall, Saturday after six was just DEAD- you only get business during the day.
Therefore, a business that has to stay open from 9 to 9 every single day has to pay staff to fill those twelve hours, even if a bunch of those hours aren't busy at all- the employees are thus drawn really thin for the times when it IS busy, and the stores basically blow money, because they're paying someone $/hour to sit around while no sales are made. My mom still works in a mall, and says there are days when you could roll a bowling ball down the halls and hit nobody. Yet every place is open.
I mean, yay, it's more hours for people who might need it, but it's a waste. Many business owners I know refuse to move in to malls directly because of this practice- paying staff for times when nobody's shopping is dumb.
Malls in Canada are a different situation: http://business.financialpost.com/news/retail-marketing/better-design-and-atmosphere-why-canadian-malls-are-thriving-while-american-malls-struggle
The weather here prevents a lot of "outdoor shopping center" things. Though a lot of malls are learning that their "anchors" are unnecessary, and are looking into putting odd things in those locations- doctors' offices, gyms, etc. These places provide rent money, even if there's no "crossover" between one thing and the other Most of the malls in town are undergoing MAJOR renovations, too- they're spending money to look better and be more modern.
Also, Online Shopping is proving to be riskier and riskier for a lot of people, and could eventually peak (never mind that Amazon barely even makes money, if at all).
Personally, I'd hate to see malls disappear entirely- as archaic as some aspects can be (business owners HATE the enforced opening & closing times, as they have to pay staff to do nothing for hours on weekends), they're a much better "destination" than most shopping centers tend to be.
Update: Sears has shut down all of its stores in Canada. That was fast- they'd closed down "select stores" in Canada earlier in the year, and have just decided to close up shop right before Christmas! Every store is a madhouse, and it's proving to be a disaster for Canadian malls, because most of them had JUST figured out what they're doing with all their abandoned Target locations! One of the malls it town had just renovated their old Target to have different store-space (converting a department store into a hallways with stores in it), and the West Edmonton Mall store is only NOW about to be filled with a few different things.
People are thinking the malls are gonna have to allow gyms to move in in order to survive, now.
It's not Fernando's fault that Toni was created- he told me during a Meet & Greet that she was more or less designed by committee, with each person at the office deciding on one element or another, solely to make another minority character "because nobody liked Chuck & Nancy".
He even cracked a joke that the committee made "The blandest Archie character ever!" So don't blame him .
« on: March 02, 2017, 02:27:48 am »
I lurked around this site for about two months before the temporary shutdown happened. I'm really glad I became interested in the site then, because all of the information was enough to get me interested and keep scrolling for more.Yeah, it was really tragic to lose the site because nobody was backing anything up. It was a really amateur-hour thing.
I used to love coming here a lot. I'd actually look up stuff every day, find old posts, and go on my trademark long-winded rants. Unfortunately, a lot of the "energy" to do that has faded. Posters like Zach Ziggster don't seem to be around- he was good people. Even Mark's insanely-long threads about his old mall or his constantly-dying pets at least held SOME interest, but those are gone. The idea of arguing on the internet loses its luster now that I'm in my mid-30s and don't feel like arguing with people who don't seem like they can read or write properly, either, and we seem to have a lot more of those types all of a sudden.
The whole Target launch up here was a complete Fiasco. They lasted about a year. They grossly misunderstood what consumers here would want (we wanted an exact copy of the US stores, pricing included). Instead, we were treated to half empty shelves and inflated prices. The parent company gave no time for the operation to become profitable.Yeah, it was an absolute disaster. I read a HUGE article on it once- a lot of boring business-speak, but it also mentioned that the empty shelves were due to a poor distribution system- employees didn't want to get in trouble, so they clicked everything to be at a minimum, and the automatic system wouldn't flag them for it. So ALL of the stores were empty.
They also foolishly over-shot their limits- opening up DOZENS of stores when they should have done flagship launches in major cities, or in one area. They opened up THREE FRIGGIN' STORES in Edmonton near-simultaneously. Of COURSE that was going to be a disaster! Nobody can go from "zero stores" to "a hundred stores" overnight and make it work. I don't care if they WERE in major shopping centers (West Edmonton Mall & Kingsway).
And yeah, malls are now sitting with gigantic Big Boxes empty. West Edmonton Mall has JUST NOW figured out what they're going to do with theirs, and it's been empty for two or three years now. Target lost billions on this nonsense.
« on: February 23, 2017, 04:28:32 am »
Why almost everything new members leave the forum after 1-2 weeks?Does anyone realize how ironic it is that the person who made a thread complaining about this fact is themself a "Posts a bit, then deletes their account" poster?
All About Archie / Re: Riverdale is a ratings loser. Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa should resign in disgrace!« on: February 23, 2017, 12:52:33 am »
Okay, after years of hype, it looks like Riverdale is a ratings flop:LOL, B-Ko- it IS you!! I don't know why I didn't notice at first!
« on: February 23, 2017, 12:44:29 am »
Archie's been falling pretty consistently for ages- not only is print media faltering, but so are comics as a whole, and then you get into the fact that Archie's a distant, DISTANT competitor of the big guns. Honestly, their sales were falling for so long that they tried every gimmick they could to staunch the flow. Crossovers, celebrity guest-appearances, clumsy tie-ins and more. Some of it worked- they drew attention, and some sales (Archie vs. Predator, for example). But a lot of it came off as desperate.
It seemed like a rather blatant attempt to make the company look more popular than it was, and to sell the brand. Especially like that stretch where it seemed every other month or so, Archie was doing something to show up in the news (GAY KID!! GAY WEDDING!! GAY COMIC BOOK! ARCHIE DIES!!).
The new books seemed like a breath of fresh air, with some talented creators behind them, as sad as I was to see them stop producing original content in their ORIGINAL style. However... with the sales falling so quickly, it's pretty clear this was all "fad"-based thinking, and without a superstar like Fiona Staples on Archie, people aren't as interested. Especially when the story arcs haven't been terribly interesting in a while- I'm sorry, but I really can't get into the Cheryl/Band/Mayoral Election stuff as much as the Teen Antics that were going on in the early issues.
Possibly losing Sonic (and of course Archie will be quiet about this, announcing that "We have exciting new plans!" before quietly dropping it. Remember how Jughead was supposed to come back right away? That took YEARS!) is another bad sign, as that seemed to be a pretty steady seller (given than the friggin' games themselves haven't been top sellers for eons).
Archie still has a future as an IP, I guess. The sales of the main title can possibly be kept around their current level, especially if they get another hot artist on the book. But their Digests are probably losing ground & sales all the time (though you can still find them in Canada- where we're this weird cultural backwater where we even had Video Stores up until a couple of years ago , and that's the only thing really keeping them afloat.
As a comic book company? I can see them quietly shuttering their original content, and only releasing collections and/or one-shot specials. THAT at least has some potential, and is probably cheaper than busting out monthly stuff.
I dunno... it'll be sad to see them go. But I find myself getting fewer and fewer of their books- I was a routine Digest buyer even a few years ago, until the content switched to the more "modern" stuff that I didn't like so much. And I can really see them eventually closing down, even though they've been like cockroaches, surviving the ebbs and flows of the industry all these decades.
« on: February 23, 2017, 12:28:00 am »
Sorry to resurrect this one, but I had to after going through the archives. Here's the bit from my own RPG build of the character:
-Trula Twyst was a great little storyline in the Jughead books last decade, and I kind of wish they'd do more with it. Forming her "J.U.S.T. Cause", she tracked Jughead, reading into his motives and personality traits, and created a complex plot to make him drop his distaste for romance (through placing herself in his location at every point, making him fascinated with her). This "epic" three-parter ended with Trula finally convincing Jughead that he might have been ROMANTICALLY INTERESTED IN HER. The fact that a woman could do this to Jug made all the other boys in Riverdale High interested in her (I mean, if the He-Man Woman-Hater could fall for a girl, she MUST be awesome, right?), and suddenly Trula was the most popular girl in school, with her pick of guys to date. WHICH WAS HER PLAN ALL ALONG. Doctor Doom, move over, you have been replaced in the Magnificent Bastard arena with a teenage girl.
-Trula appeared several more times over the years to vex Jughead, usually coming out as a surprise ending. Jug never trusted her after her initial manipulation, and she gleefully maneuvered him and others about like puppets on strings as a villainous Femme Fatale. Awesome stuff. And in actuality, she was the only person who almost NEVER got comeuppance from Jughead- his frequent victims Veronica & Reggie almost NEVER pull one over on him, but Trula? Trula nearly always remained victorious. At various points, she made Jughead convinced he spoke only French, subliminally write her initials everywher he went, and made him DISLIKE HAMBURGERS. This makes her one of the most unique Archie Comics females, and I wish they'd do something with her- she just kind of popped up in random backstories as a nemesis, and only in Jughead's book.
A VERY fun summation of what was going on at this time! Kudos!
I had a very large fascination for this series when I was younger, as I'd read the "Doug Crane" years of Jughead in one of the Digests (it was cycling through most of them), and was REALLY impressed with both the "Jughhead Moves Away" story (which was genuinely harrowing... until they just handwaved it away in the last page), and the "Jughead Forms a Love Triangle" story.
Unfortunately, the Love Triangle just turned Just into another Archie. Even though the characters commented on that as if it were the joke (now the aloof Juggie was getting into his own Archie-style messes!), it wasn't really the best for the character. It didn't help that the sad, weepy Joani and the brassy, alternative Debbie were both turned into fawning dweebs as soon as they hooked up with our hero- even ARCHIE didn't walk around with BOTH girls hanging off of his arms!
Here's a summation I made from the RPG thread I did of the Archie gang:
Jughead's Love Triangle:
* The early '90s were a VERY weird time for Archie Comics in general, and especially for Jughead. Among the more bizarre things they did was give Jughead a pair of weird sci-fi books (a time-cop adventure with Archie's sexy female descendant, and one where he... manages a diner), and then A PAIR OF GIRLFRIENDS.
* This bizarre story came about from the same Jughead run that featured the "Jug moves away" story mentioned above. Again given drama and actual emotion, Jughead reveals in a diary that "it's not that I hate girls- I just had my heart broken when I was younger!"- it turns out that a childhood crush on Joani Jummp, the girl-next-door, resulted in heartbreak when his family moved away. In the same issue, he meets a sexy rocker-chick who's into the same kind of music he is, and begins feeling those funny tingles for the first time in forever. And just as he's about to unsteadily step into the dating pool... JOANI MOVES TO RIVERDALE. Initially, this is treated as dramatic, incredible stuff, with Jug actually being terrified out of his mind, insanely confused ("oh, JOANI" he cries, after kissing her for the first time, "Now I'm more confused than ever!"), and more.
* This came off as REALLY deep stuff to me when I was a kid, and later re-reading it as a teen. Retrospect says it's way more "Fan-Ficcy" and a bit clumsy at times- the whole "Oh actually, I'm not like X, I'm like Y!" is a classic Retcon that comes off very awkwardly. The fact that JUGHEAD JONES was now dating also shocked fans, who pretty much seemed to hate it. The following issues actually dropped the drama and made it straight-up "Wacky Dating Hijinx", with bizarre situations like Jughead walking into the Chok'lit Shoppe with a girl on each arm, both of them kissing him on the cheek and hanging onto him- something that even ARCHIE never could pull off with Betty & Veronica. Essentially, it was the world's least-dramatic Love Triangle. The best part was seeing the aloof, lecturing JUGHEAD now forced to eat crow, as he ended up doing the same thing he'd always warned Archie about for years.
* Eventually, fan complaints (and Archie's own staff) intervened, and the arc was dropped. Even THAT was handled dramatically, however, with Jughead & Debbie having the mother of all fights when he accidentally stands her up by having dinner at Joani's. Debbie looks ENRAGED in one shot (again- not cartoonish stuff- actual human-looking anger), and Jug says some stupid thing that ends up with him getting dumped ("it depends- what are you having for dinner?"- NICE GOING, JUG. That's your "I'm sorry it happened to you, Courtney- but now you know how I FELT." line right there). Next up, Debbie's suddenly got a line of guys waiting to date her, while she's all going "tee-hee" like a train of dudes following you is totally a normal thing. Jughead prepares to go back to Joani... except it's revealed that she's MOVING TO ALASKA. Her & Jughead end up having a real, tearful goodbye (though at one point, he has a freak-out when she says "the only way I could stay here is if we GOT MARRIED!"), and they cap off the whole Love Triangle Arc like that. Except, because it's Archie, Jughead's Time-Travelling Space Girlfriend January McAndrews shows up halfway through to talk him through his troubles.
* The following issue is also pretty cool, as Jughead suddenly becomes a woman-hating SONGWRITER, singing about how horrible women are and how "they all done me WRONG!" This, naturally, is like CATNIP to the female population of Riverdale, leading to numerous songs that go increasingly-sexist until Betty & Veronica refuse to play them, and they get Big Ethel involved- the goofy Ethel (mostly kept out of the arc because it was too serious, and her own issues become kinda sad if you think about them for too long) ends up having a heart-to-heart with Jug, who basically confesses that he's done with romance, but isn't really willing to hate on all women anymore.
Debbie: Debbie initially came off as a cool rocker-chick with a short haircut & bangs, but shifted into a "Generic Hanger-On Girl". She's basically an entirely different character after her first appearance.
Joani Jummp: Joani is actually REALLY weird- her sole personality trait is a desperate, all-consuming love of JUGHEAD JONES. She hangs off of him, staring into his eyes, passionately going for kisses... it's almost like some weird male fantasy about the Loving Girlfriend or something. Unlike most girls in Riverdale, Joani has super-curly, long hair, making her stand out in group shots. She also has a father and chubby older brother, both of whom disapprove of Jughead and try to break them up (in the break-up story, they're seen high-fiving each other when Jug & Joani realize they won't see each other again). Joani actually appears on a few covers in her time, while Debbie gets far fewer.
« on: July 16, 2016, 03:16:05 am »
I can see why they'd keep her away from Riverdale- it keeps her apart from and "above" the other kids- a snottier contrast to Veronica. Plus they probably don't want to CONSTANTLY have her around- it makes her appearances more of a "special deal".
Hi all- I've been statting up some Archie characters for the Mutants & Masterminds RPG (mostly designed for superheroes, but can fit everyone), including my own notes on the characters. I figured I'd share it here while I was in the midst of things: http://roninarmy.com/threads/149-Jab-s-Builds!?p=200601&viewfull=1#post200601.
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