Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 10, 2017, 09:52:11 AM

Quote from: Vegan Jughead on August 10, 2017, 06:46:26 AM
Still, biker chicks are gross, something I've never said about B&V.

Zombies and werewolves are gross, but I didn't read you raising a stink about it when they turned Jughead into one of them. Maybe you're just saving up your outrage for when they turn him into a surfer dude?

I have no interest in reading "Jughead is a werewolf". Stupidest idea ever. Unless there turns out to be more to it than just that. Like if his future time-travelling self had to hunt down his past werewolf-self by chasing him throughout history or something. Probably still pointless though, since it would be obvious he's already succeeded (think about it).

My point is, on a relative scale? Oh, in this series B&V ride motorcycles. Big whoop, I'm appalled. A drop in the bucket compared to any of a half-dozen plot twists Aguirre-Sacasa has served up on a platter. That's just the TV show, not AWA.

I agree zombies and werewolves are gross but not AS gross as chicks dressed like bikers in my opinion.  I want to stress that I'm a hardcore feminist and believe women who want to be bikers should do so.  I'm only stating a personal preference when it comes to what art I want to look at.  I have a certain image of Betty and Veronica and that's what I prefer.  It's not that I think it's WRONG that they're making them bikers, it just turns me completely off.   BUT as I said, I'll give issue one a try and if the writing is great, I'm sure I can deal with the image.  It will just have to be REALLY great. 


As far as Jughead: The Hunger, I enjoyed the one shot moderately.  I'm hoping for better things now that they're committing to an ongoing.  I agree it will be too one note if that's the whole gist. 

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Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 09, 2017, 09:56:27 AM
I doubt that Betty & Veronica VIXENS will be anything like Sons of Anarchy, but we'll see I guess.

Yeah,Besides Sons of Anarchy has biker genre. So maybe VIXENS will do the same thing except it probably pays more homage to the Biker films from the late 60's to 70s

Maybe it's me, but trying to read between the lines there I didn't get the slightest impression that VIXENS was going to be a "MR" title, so probably no sex and drugs, or anything R-rated there, I think. More like some fantasy B&V 'girls gone wild' thing, while remaining all-ages, like the New Riverdale titles. Who knows, maybe we'll see Nick St. Clair again? 

Quote from: Vegan Jughead on August 09, 2017, 01:09:56 PM
The only one of these I'm REMOTELY interested in is B&V Vixens but I'm only committing to one issue and hope it's better than the concept sounds. 

This might be a bridge too far for me.  Call me old fashioned but biker chicks disgust me and thinking of Betty as some kind of edgy biker (or Veronica for that matter) is disturbing. 

I've been pretty supportive of all the reboots up to now.  I'm hoping this one surprises me, but this might be the first Archie reboot I don't subscribe to.

Keep in mind that it's written and drawn by women, VJ. I very much doubt you're going to see B&V portrayed in the more realistic vein of the outlaw biker women on Sons of Anarchy, or the stereotypical biker chicks of the 1968-1972 R-rated biker exploitation movies. They won't be drinking beer, smoking pot, seeing which one can amass the biggest collection of tattoos, and having random sex off-panel with hunky biker dudes.

I imagine this will be more like a girly girlpower schoolgirl fantasy of... "Hey, did you ever imagine what it would be like if we were badass biker babes? Vroom! VaROOM!!"  "Oh wow, I wonder what THAT would be like...?" [...Cue harpstring chorus and wavy-gravy dissolve to the dream sequence.]  ...But if they're smart they'll realize that the title can't survive with only female readers, so they'll try to make sure it has some appeal to male readers as well.

I don't think this will be any more of an "action" title than the recently rebooted Josie and the Pussycats. I don't expect the kind of Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa written/David Lynch-inspired "dark underbelly" take of an Afterlife With Archie. Veronica will still be picking out her designer original biker leathers from Paris, and Betty will still be stopping to help a little girl find her stray cat.

Maybe you should write it.  That doesn't seem as bad as what I'm fearing.  Still, biker chicks are gross, something I've never said about B&V.

I just don't see where you're getting a heebie-jeebie vibe from THIS cover (drawn by the actual interior artist), Vegan. This looks sort of quaint, almost like those fairy-tale covers.

I don't know what it is, either, DCR.  I just don't like it.  Like I said, I'll give the first issue a try. I'll give ANY Archie Comics title a try (except Dark Circle; that's just too far outside my world), and I'm going to try to be open minded, but I even like Adam Hughes' take on B&V much better than this and I wasn't really fond of that either.  I'm hoping this is temporary and we can get a Your Pal Archie style Betty and Veronica before much longer.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 09, 2017, 07:47:55 PM

Quote from: terrence12 on August 09, 2017, 01:15:56 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 09, 2017, 09:56:27 AM
I doubt that Betty & Veronica VIXENS will be anything like Sons of Anarchy, but we'll see I guess.

Yeah,Besides Sons of Anarchy has biker genre. So maybe VIXENS will do the same thing except it probably pays more homage to the Biker films from the late 60's to 70s

Maybe it's me, but trying to read between the lines there I didn't get the slightest impression that VIXENS was going to be a "MR" title, so probably no sex and drugs, or anything R-rated there, I think. More like some fantasy B&V 'girls gone wild' thing, while remaining all-ages, like the New Riverdale titles. Who knows, maybe we'll see Nick St. Clair again? 

Quote from: Vegan Jughead on August 09, 2017, 01:09:56 PM
The only one of these I'm REMOTELY interested in is B&V Vixens but I'm only committing to one issue and hope it's better than the concept sounds. 

This might be a bridge too far for me.  Call me old fashioned but biker chicks disgust me and thinking of Betty as some kind of edgy biker (or Veronica for that matter) is disturbing. 

I've been pretty supportive of all the reboots up to now.  I'm hoping this one surprises me, but this might be the first Archie reboot I don't subscribe to.

Keep in mind that it's written and drawn by women, VJ. I very much doubt you're going to see B&V portrayed in the more realistic vein of the outlaw biker women on Sons of Anarchy, or the stereotypical biker chicks of the 1968-1972 R-rated biker exploitation movies. They won't be drinking beer, smoking pot, seeing which one can amass the biggest collection of tattoos, and having random sex off-panel with hunky biker dudes.

I imagine this will be more like a girly girlpower schoolgirl fantasy of... "Hey, did you ever imagine what it would be like if we were badass biker babes? Vroom! VaROOM!!"  "Oh wow, I wonder what THAT would be like...?" [...Cue harpstring chorus and wavy-gravy dissolve to the dream sequence.]  ...But if they're smart they'll realize that the title can't survive with only female readers, so they'll try to make sure it has some appeal to male readers as well.

I don't think this will be any more of an "action" title than the recently rebooted Josie and the Pussycats. I don't expect the kind of Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa written/David Lynch-inspired "dark underbelly" take of an Afterlife With Archie. Veronica will still be picking out her designer original biker leathers from Paris, and Betty will still be stopping to help a little girl find her stray cat.

Maybe you should write it.  That doesn't seem as bad as what I'm fearing.  Still, biker chicks are gross, something I've never said about B&V. 

The only one of these I'm REMOTELY interested in is B&V Vixens but I'm only committing to one issue and hope it's better than the concept sounds. 


This might be a bridge too far for me.  Call me old fashioned but biker chicks disgust me and thinking of Betty as some kind of edgy biker (or Veronica for that matter) is disturbing. 


I've been pretty supportive of all the reboots up to now.  I'm hoping this one surprises me, but this might be the first Archie reboot I don't subscribe to. 

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Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 01, 2017, 06:02:35 PM
"Veronica in Texas" was just reprinted last month in one of the B&V digests. I enjoyed it, but didn't learn a thing about Texas. Neither did Veronica, since she spent most of the story with concussion-induced amnesia laboring under the delusion that she was "Dusty Marlowe, Rodeo Star" (from a novel she'd been reading on the plane just before she hit her head due to unexpected turbulence). As "Dusty", she dyed her hair red, which made her look amazingly like Cheryl Blossom (admittedly not much of a concern for readers in 1991, when the story was first published in VERONICA #17). I kinda miss Lady Smitty.

Oh, I need to get a hold of this!

It's in Betty & Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest #255.

Which, by the way, doesn't look like this issue that was solicited a few months ago...


Instead it looks like this:


It officially went on sale July 26th, but I think my subscription copy arrived almost a week early. This is another one of those "switcharoo solicits" that hardly ever gets mentioned, but in the last couple of months there were a spate of them (I think the revised cover art originally appeared on a solicitation for Archie's Funhouse digest, which seems to have skipped an issue, or maybe I'm thinking of the previous B&V Friends Jumbo Comics Digest #254), culminating in the announcement that Jughead & Archie Double Digest was being cancelled and replaced by Archie & Me Comics Digest. It should still be on sale at Barnes & Noble and Wal-Mart brick & mortars, as well as wherever digital comics are sold.

At any rate, various digest shipping dates as solicited got changed, as well as the contents, page count, and cover art... so things appear to be in a volatile state in digestland. The last time it happened on that scale was a few months before both Archie's Funhouse and Jughead & Archie got cut back from 10 times a year to only six times a year.

Thanks!  I have a subscription to that digest and I actually started reading that issue last night so I'll see that story soon. 

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on August 01, 2017, 06:02:35 PM
"Veronica in Texas" was just reprinted last month in one of the B&V digests. I enjoyed it, but didn't learn a thing about Texas. Neither did Veronica, since she spent most of the story with concussion-induced amnesia laboring under the delusion that she was "Dusty Marlowe, Rodeo Star" (from a novel she'd been reading on the plane just before she hit her head due to unexpected turbulence). As "Dusty", she dyed her hair red, which made her look amazingly like Cheryl Blossom (admittedly not much of a concern for readers in 1991, when the story was first published in VERONICA #17). I kinda miss Lady Smitty.

Oh, I need to get a hold of this! 

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That's true, just not in the city like Dallas

Point taken. I've never been to Dallas, and so I don't have much of a mental image of that city, particularly what a typical residential area looks like. Just what I tend to see on TV shows, which is like a helicopter flyover of the downtown area.

Haha yeah it's a fairly boring city, so by not visiting you're not missing out on much

I'm from Houston.  I like Dallas.  I've lived all over.  All cities are boring.  Trust me.  The novelty wears off of everything.  It's not where you are, it's who you're with.  You gotta find the cool people wherever you are and you won't be bored. 

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Quote from: irishmoxie on July 23, 2017, 11:21:36 AM
Never read Sonic. But hopefully they will put this money towards the relaunch of Betty and Veronica which was the best selling Archie title last month. http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2017/2017-06.html

Dan Parent hinted recently at another (almost) classic title in the vein of Your Pal Archie.  Maybe B&V will get the same treatment!

"(almost) classic" in the sense of what ACP is calling "All New Classic"? As in the same cosmetic makeover in character designs used in Your Pal Archie? Or would this be some other experiment stylistically in-between "classic" and "New Riverdale"?

It was just a hint but since it was from Dan, I took it to mean another Your Pal Archie type of thing.

Got issue one in the mail yesterday as part of my subscription.


Pretty fun!  Great art and I like that there's several shorter stories instead of one long one.  B&V are beautiful drawn by Dan of course!!!

Quote from: irishmoxie on July 23, 2017, 11:21:36 AM
Never read Sonic. But hopefully they will put this money towards the relaunch of Betty and Veronica which was the best selling Archie title last month. http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2017/2017-06.html

Dan Parent hinted recently at another (almost) classic title in the vein of Your Pal Archie.  Maybe B&V will get the same treatment!

Archie #22 is sweet and heartbreaking at the same time.  I recommend it. 


It seems like #23 will be a weird time to change artists from Pete Woods to Audrey Mok.  They claimed #23 starts a new arc, but it's going to be really a continuation of the current story.  I like Audrey's art much better than Pete's, so I'm fine with it, but I wish this book could stick with an artist. 

http://www.mtv.com/news/3024757/the-archies-ongoing-comic-series/


This is awesome for me because I've pretty much loved everything Alex Segura has had a hand in writing.


It says real bands will appear, and he knows his music so this could be really cool!

Quote from: CAPalace on July 12, 2017, 11:29:11 AM
I am pretty annoyed at the whole Alan/Alexandra thing. They have no chemistry and neither of them had any interest in each other in the previous issues. Also the way Josie treats Alexandra because of it is so petty to me. Josie gave Alan up - now she likes him again because Alexandra is with him?? That stuff drives me insane.

But maybe it's just me. Maybe it's because growing up as a woman all my boy-crazy friends were constantly causing drama within our group over some 14 year old boy who had no interest in being in a long-term relationship (and honestly I can't blame them).

Also, I am overly protective of Alexandra as a character, especially this version of her. It's probably not normal lol.

Otherwise, dang the Archie gang looks good drawn by Audrey Mok.

I see what you mean, but since I've been in love with Josie for almost 45 years (I'm 48), I think she can do no wrong!!  Ha ha.

Just read #8 and I thought it was an amazing issue.  The Pussycats and The Archies go to Tokyo. 


I know a lot of y'all haven't been to hot on this series but I've loved it.  It's too bad #9 will be the last one.


At least Audrey Mok is going to the artist on Archie.  I think she'll be a big improvement on Pete Woods. 

I have no idea but since Jughead: The Hunger will be drawn by Pat and Tim Kennedy instead of Hack or Francavilla, it has a decent shot at actually sticking to a regular publishing schedule.