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#46
All About Archie / Re: Whew!
March 06, 2018, 04:22:04 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on March 05, 2018, 10:59:40 PM
Quote from: SAGG on March 05, 2018, 01:32:09 PM
HUGE slew of stories added to my third album! B & V, Miss Grundy, Ronica, an Archie one, and a Pat Kennedy one that has a several-part Josie and the Pussycats story! be sure to use the A-Z direction sort in the lower right corner! Enjoy!  :D

"Music For the Masses" is drawn by Rex Lindsay, not Pat Kennedy. In fact, while you may be able to find a few exceptions to this rule, JOSIE over the course of its history has really mainly been the product of only 4 pencilers... Dan DeCarlo and Stan Goldberg (from 1963-1982 in Josie's 1st series), then as a backup feature from the mid-1980s through most of the 1990s, pretty much Stan Goldberg by himself (although Al Bigley did a few, and DeCarlo drew some new stories for the two issues of JOSIE volume 2), and then during the heyday of the Pussycats being promoted to the lead feature in ARCHIE & FRIENDS in anticipation of the characters appearing in their own feature film, first Rex Lindsay and then Holly Golightly. When the movie came and went and failed to greatly increase the number of new JOSIE readers, it reverted to a backup feature in A&F once more, with Rex Lindsay and Stan Goldberg sharing the penciling duties between them for a little while, although eventually, Rex moved on so he could devote most of his time to JUGHEAD, and Stan finished out the run of the feature in A&F (which only lasted until Tania Del Rio briefly turned it into a manga, just before the 100th issue). In terms of page counts, the total number of pages of JOSIE stories contributed by pencilers other than those four (not counting their guest appearances in ARCHIE, of course) is pretty negligible. In fact, even Rex and Holly's number of pages don't add up to much when compared to Dan and Stan's.
My apologies, DR. Thank you for the correction.  :-[ I got the two mixed up. Why did I do that?  ??? :idiot2: :D
#47
All About Archie / Re: Whew!
March 05, 2018, 01:32:09 PM
HUGE slew of stories added to my third album! B & V, Miss Grundy, Ronica, an Archie one, and a Pat Kennedy one that has a several-part Josie and the Pussycats story! be sure to use the A-Z direction sort in the lower right corner! Enjoy!  :D
#48
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 20, 2018, 03:47:26 AM
Quote from: gillibean on February 19, 2018, 09:47:44 PMI can feel that it was not made for an Archie comics fan. I'm not saying it has to be perfect for the fans, but I wish it could be like marvel, where ANYONE can enjoy the movies/shows they put out.

You might think so, about the Marvel movies and TV shows. But I've read thousands of Marvel comics, and for me, in general, most of those movies and shows just hold "no interest".  I've liked certain aspects of some. Overall the X-Men movies seem the best, along with Deadpool. I have to assume it's because I've never followed the X-Men comic book franchise with as much passion as I have for some of the others, like Captain America or the Avengers (but then by the time they got around to making those movies, I didn't care much for the current comic books either). When they throw the X-Men into a movie and make changes, I can see what they changed, but it's not that big of a deal to me, because it's been a long while since I felt a lot of reverence for the X-Men comic books. I tend to like the oddball choices for movie adaptations, like Kick-Ass (which I actually thought was better than the comic book it was based on). But there's usually a general rule in effect there that dictates an inverse relationship between how much I like the character or series as a comic book, and how much I like it as a movie or TV show. Having figured that out, I now can just watch the preview trailer for a comic book movie, and usually tell immediately whether it looks interesting or not (mostly not).

It seems to me that if you REALLY really like a specific comic book series or characters, it makes you pretty fussy about certain details, very specific things that you enjoy from the comic book version. When you don't see those things included in the movie or show based on comics, or they are distorted or twisted in the process of transferring them to another media, then instead of getting some kind of hoped-for satisfaction along the lines of "it's like the comic book come to life", you get exactly the opposite, a huge letdown -- just a big list of disappointments of all the ways in which the movie or show didn't get it right. I used to wonder why, as comic books gained more credibility and respect from the mainstream, that the movies and TV shows adapted from them didn't become more "faithful to the source material" -- but in actual fact, it seems like the adaptations have gone in the opposite direction. So while the average person watching can just go along with whatever they throw on the screen without any problems, the less-than one-percenters who are hardcore fans of the comic book version of the characters might feel otherwise, because they've already spent far too much time thinking about those characters, and while watching the movie or television version, they tend to sit there and analyze every detail, comparing it with the comic book version, and find that the movie or show is missing or changed important elements that are essential to them. That goes for the various modern DC movies and TV shows as well. Strangely enough, in the 90s, the animated DC shows like Batman, Superman, and Justice League were often better than the comic books they were publishing (their main universe, not the comics adapted from the animation).

Where RIVERDALE differs from the various Marvel and DC film and television adaptations, I think, is that its main selling point of interest is not as an adaptation of the classic Archie characters (or even the New Riverdale ARCHIE) -- it's the radical re-interpretation of the classic Archie characters that is its cachet. The awareness of that among the viewers, that this will not be a straight adaptation, but a Twilight Zone-ish parallel universe remix of the characters, is what draws its audience and holds it. That was also the case for AFTERLIFE WITH ARCHIE, which is a better analog (minus the horror elements) for the television series than regular Archie comics. Not surprisingly, since Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa was the mastermind behind both of them. Clearly this won't be a faithful adaptation, but how exactly will they re-interpret those characters? That's the main drawing point to pique the curiosity of viewers, it seems to me.
I think you'd like Black Panther, DR. It's VERY good. I saw it Monday....
#49
Quote from: rusty on February 18, 2018, 05:57:44 PM
Sounds like a printing error.  I checked my copy of #286 and assume that you are talking about the Ski the World story.  In my digest, Page 10 is on the back of Page 9 and then the story ends on Page 11 with a little END box in the last panel.  The back of that page starts The Andrews Family Tree story.
I'll have to read again. I didn't see page 10 or 11.....
#50
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 18, 2018, 01:50:58 AM
Quote from: SAGG on February 17, 2018, 06:57:45 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 17, 2018, 05:37:55 AM
Quote from: SAGG on February 17, 2018, 04:48:53 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 16, 2018, 11:56:37 PM
Quote from: SAGG on February 16, 2018, 11:37:42 PM
Anybody else got this? It's the one where The Gang are following Ronica around the world to ski resorts. I've seen this before in other Archie digests. Why doesn't ACP make sure they're giving us the stories in their whole form? Somebody's not editing right. I mean, we've seen words being misspelled and such, but splitting stories is outright incompetence....  >:(

You mean it's a story which breaks down into several chapters, but somehow or other they didn't print the chapters together one after the other,  but instead spread them out and interspersed other reprints between the chapters? Or did they only print one chapter of a multi-chapter story and forget about the rest of it altogether?
Both. They actually did both...

Could it possibly one of those rare continued stories where the next part originally appeared in the following issue (and would presumably be reprinted in the next issue of the same digest)? Or did they edit the story it in such a way that at least the story ended on one of those "punch line" gags?
Well, it just...ended. I think it was on page 9. There was no "to be continued"....

Hmm... that sure sounds like an editorial mistake, unless it's just your individual copy of that particular issue that got messed up at the printers, and is missing pages. What issue # was it? I stopped getting it with Archie Jumbo Comics Digest #285 (January), which sounds like it's the previous issue. A timely decision on my part, it would seem.
Yep, you did. 😁 Number 286....
#51
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 17, 2018, 05:37:55 AM
Quote from: SAGG on February 17, 2018, 04:48:53 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 16, 2018, 11:56:37 PM
Quote from: SAGG on February 16, 2018, 11:37:42 PM
Anybody else got this? It's the one where The Gang are following Ronica around the world to ski resorts. I've seen this before in other Archie digests. Why doesn't ACP make sure they're giving us the stories in their whole form? Somebody's not editing right. I mean, we've seen words being misspelled and such, but splitting stories is outright incompetence....  >:(

You mean it's a story which breaks down into several chapters, but somehow or other they didn't print the chapters together one after the other,  but instead spread them out and interspersed other reprints between the chapters? Or did they only print one chapter of a multi-chapter story and forget about the rest of it altogether?
Both. They actually did both...

Could it possibly one of those rare continued stories where the next part originally appeared in the following issue (and would presumably be reprinted in the next issue of the same digest)? Or did they edit the story it in such a way that at least the story ended on one of those "punch line" gags?
Well, it just...ended. I think it was on page 9. There was no "to be continued"....
#52
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 16, 2018, 11:56:37 PM
Quote from: SAGG on February 16, 2018, 11:37:42 PM
Anybody else got this? It's the one where The Gang are following Ronica around the world to ski resorts. I've seen this before in other Archie digests. Why doesn't ACP make sure they're giving us the stories in their whole form? Somebody's not editing right. I mean, we've seen words being misspelled and such, but splitting stories is outright incompetence....  >:(

You mean it's a story which breaks down into several chapters, but somehow or other they didn't print the chapters together one after the other,  but instead spread them out and interspersed other reprints between the chapters? Or did they only print one chapter of a multi-chapter story and forget about the rest of it altogether?
Both. They actually did both...
#53
Anybody else got this? It's the one where The Gang are following Ronica around the world to ski resorts. I've seen this before in other Archie digests. Why doesn't ACP make sure they're giving us the stories in their whole form? Somebody's not editing right. I mean, we've seen words being misspelled and such, but splitting stories is outright incompetence....  >:(
#54
All About Archie / Re: Whew!
February 05, 2018, 12:39:40 PM
A Betty's Diary story added based on a recent thread of the origins of The Gang's names that seems to have been deleted. I thought it would have been fitting for that thread. Third album. Enjoy!  :D
#55
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on January 31, 2018, 01:12:13 PM
01-31-18:
JUGHEAD: THE HUNGER #3
THE ARCHIES #4
RICK & MORTY #34
STRETCH ARMSTRONG AND THE FLEX FIGHTERS #1 (of 3)
GALAKTIKON #4
PUNISHER: PLATOON #5 (of 6)
MOON KNIGHT #191
PHOENIX RESURRECTION #5 (of 5)
DETECTIVE COMICS ANNUAL #1
MYSTIK U #2 (of 3)
JLA DOOM PATROL SPECIAL #1
ASTRO CITY #50

Interesting that you're reading the Archies. I thought you had misgivings about the New Archie universe, DR. What's your take? 😊
#56
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on January 30, 2018, 09:32:07 AM
01-25 to 01-30:
MARVEL 2-IN-ONE #2
THANOS #15
PHOENIX RESURRECTION #3 & 4
(of 5)
DOOMSDAY CLOCK #3 (of 12)
ACTION COMICS #996
DETECTIVE COMICS #973
WONDER WOMAN #39
JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #22 & 23
THE DEMON: HELL IS EARTH #3
(of 6)
CALIFORNIA GIRLS #1 (June 1987)
SOUTHERN BASTARDS #19
BETTY PAGE #7
BETTY & VERONICA JUMBO COMICS #260
DOCTOR STRANGE #281-284

Doomsday Clock is an interesting series. What do you think of the fusion of the classic "Watchmen" and the DC characters, DR? They're certainly allowing profanity in it like the original....
#57
All About Archie / Re: Jughead: The Hunger
January 24, 2018, 04:50:18 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on January 24, 2018, 12:28:26 PM
Well, I couldn't find a copy of the one-shot, but unless they actually SHOW Jughead transforming into a werewolf, I'm gonna say he's not (despite whatever the covers show you); it didn't happen ONCE in issues #1 or 2.
Comixology has it on digital, if you prefer it....
#58
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on January 16, 2018, 06:40:12 PM
01-11 to 11-16-18:
The Little Book of THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN
The Little Book of BATMAN
The Little Book of SUPERMAN
The Little Book of WONDER WOMAN
MANGA CLASSIC READERS: MOBY DICK TP
MANGA CLASSIC READERS: WAR OF THE WORLDS TP
H.P. LOVECRAFT'S THE HOUND and Other Stories
(adapted by Gou Tanabe)
JIMMY'S BASTARDS #6
SCOOBY-DOO TEAM UP (with the Legion of Super-Heroes) #33
FUTURE QUEST PRESENTS: BIRDMAN #6
BATMAN/TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES II #3
(of 6)
BUGS BUNNY (1990) #2 - Strangely enough, of the 3 stories in this issue, NONE of them was a Bugs Bunny story!
WILL EISNER'S THE SPIRIT: THE CORPSE MAKERS #5 (of 5)
SHEENA #5
KILL OR BE KILLED #15
THE FURTHER ADVENTURES OF NICK WILSON #1
ICE CREAM MAN #1
FIGHTING AMERICAN #4
KONG ON PLANET OF APES #3
(of 6)
ASSASSINISTAS #2 (of ?)
NEMO HC (adapted by Bruno)
20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA HC (adapted by Gary Gianni)
What in the world is a "Little "Book"?   ???  And what did you think about the Birdman book, DR? I  liked the part about Avenger being able to understand Birdman....
#59
Archie Jumbo Double Digest 285 has an interesting story called "Snowbound". It's what I call an "Action Archie" story, you know, the adventure ones that have Goldberg illustrating where Archie is in danger, or fighting some really nasty bad guys who want to off him, those stories. Here, however, it's done by DeCarlo....
#60
All About Archie / Re: Whew!
January 09, 2018, 06:08:06 PM
Cute little B&V DeCarlo-drawn story added to my third album! Be sure to use the directional sort in the lower right corner to read it from left to right (A-Z). Enjoy!