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Title: Elemental Story
Post by: buefordcomix95 on November 01, 2017, 02:00:39 PM
Hello folks. I am trying to find an Archie story that involves two female elemental super powered beings. The first elemental lady is a teenage female with ice-powers that has snow white hair in a short, boyish haircut and wears a short blue fur dress with white fur trimming. She had blue skin. The Second lady is a fire elemental who lives on the surface of the sun, has blond spiky hair, wears dark sunglasses, wears black pants and a belly shirt and is barefooted. Any information on which story this is? Thank you for your help. :(
Title: Re: Elemental Story
Post by: Captain Jetpack on November 02, 2017, 07:27:15 AM
Sorry, but those aren't Archie Characters.


Fire, and her counterpart, Ice were from DC Comics, & part of the Justice League, in the 80s or 90s.
Giffen was artist or writer, I forget which.


 :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Elemental Story
Post by: buefordcomix95 on November 02, 2017, 08:45:04 AM
Well, thank you anyway.
 :)
Title: Re: Elemental Story
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on November 02, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
Sorry, but those aren't Archie Characters.


Fire, and her counterpart, Ice were from DC Comics, & part of the Justice League, in the 80s or 90s.
Giffen was artist or writer, I forget which.


 :coolsmiley:

It's not DC's Fire and Ice. FIRE (Beatriz da Costa) was originally named Green Fury. She was granted the power of green flame through Brazilian mysticism and was at one time the head of the Brazilian branch of Wayne Enterprises. ICE (Tora Olafsdotter) was originally named Icemaiden. She is the princess of a lost tribe of Norse magicians, and was born with her powers naturally. Both characters were nominally supposed to have been originally members of the Global Guardians, an international team of superheroes assembled by Dr. Mist, which first appeared in the Superman team-up comic DC COMICS PRESENTS #46, but some of the members had appeared previously in SUPER FRIENDS. Ice's story is confused, because at the time she joined the Justice League International (along with Fire), she was presumed never to have been given a real name, and so either Keith Giffen (artist & co-plotter) or J.M. DeMatteis (writer & co-plotter) named her Tora Olafsdotter. They were wrong about that, though... the original Icemaiden who appeared in SUPER FRIENDS did have a name, Sigrid Nansen, and so a complicated retcon backstory was invented to explain how the original Icemaiden (Sigrid) had been replaced by a new one (Tora), who later shortened her name to just Ice.

At least one of Ice's former appearances is similar to what buefordcomics95 is recalling (except for the blue skin), but the "fire elemental" he's recalling bears no similarity to Beatriz da Costa in any of her former appearances, to say nothing of the completely different origin (she's NOT an elemental) and powers. Originally, Green Fury could only breath green flame, like a human blowtorch. After joining the JLI and changing her name to Fire, her powers were altered to allow her to project blasts of green fire from her hands, and later still so that her entire body ignited with a flaming green aura and she was able to fly -- a direct female counterpart to Marvel's Human Torch.

It's funny, because I can recall seeing online some sort of promotional giveaway comic created for (I think) an ice cream company or ice cream restaurant which involved similar characters to what buefordcomics95 is describing. Artwork was primitive compared to the time period the comic appeared (probably the 1990s), so perhaps a bit "cartoony" looking (perhaps this is why he thought it might be an Archie publication), and if I recall correctly, the 'fire elemental' was actually the villain of the story. The name of the comic completely escapes me, however.

The other thing that occurs to me is that the characters as described don't seem like they would have been out-of-place in a atory from an early 1960s issue of ADVENTURES OF THE FLY or ADVENTURES OF THE JAGUAR. Since I haven't read all of them, it's entirely possible, but I have no clue otherwise.
Title: Re: Elemental Story
Post by: Wattanut on November 13, 2017, 04:23:40 AM
Thanks for the good comments.