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  • Tuxedo Mark: And another one: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:42:07 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: Riverdale spoof: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Roughing It!" from B&V Friends #262: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:12:53 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: @irishmoxie -- It's definitely complete. All six of the 1958-59 Sy Reit/Bob White original issues, plus the feature-length "Good Guys of the Galaxy" by Tom DeFalco & Fernando Ruiz from ARCHIE #655, and three 5-page digest shorts that guest-starred Cosmo -- and the complete first issue of the Ian Flynn/Tracy Yarley COSMO (2017) thrown in for good measure. It follows the same layout/format as the previous JUGHEAD'S TIME POLICE, even though that didn't carry the "Archie Comics Presents..." trade dress. Not a bad buy for $11.
    June 14, 2018, 01:08:59 AM
  • irishmoxie: Anyone get the Cosmo book that came out today? Any good?
    June 13, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
  • Cosmo: Ah man....and I was worried I was the last enthusiast for ERB's stuff. I'm currently rereading my Dell Tarzan books. Really good fun! It took a while to complete that run.
    June 12, 2018, 06:51:53 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: ...Marvel's earlier JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS in there, so the DE Tarzan comics need to go in a different box, and SHEENA (also a recent DE title) and DC's RIMA THE JUNGLE GIRL will help fill up that box.
    June 11, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Recently. DE's unauthorized LORD OF THE JUNGLE Tarzan adaptations (and its authorized THE GREATEST ADVENTURE) won't fit into my existing box of previous Tarzan comics from Gold Key, DC, and Dark Horse, so I have to start a new box. Logically these get filed with DE's unauthorized WARLORD OF MARS comics (including DEJAH THORIS) and their authorized JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS. But I also want to squeeze Marve;
    June 11, 2018, 07:38:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Interesting. I tend not to group titles by publisher at all, if the characters were not created as work-for-hire (meaning the publisher is legally considered the 'author' of the character). Do they belong to that publisher's "universe" (assuming it has one)? There are some publishers like Dynamite Entertainment where the vast majority of the titles they publish are licensed, and thus were "inherited" from other publishers. Therefore it makes more sense to me to group them together in boxes with similar characters. Flash Gordon, The Phantom, and Mandrake comics (regardless of who the actual publisher was) go together in the same box because they're all classic adventure heroes licensed from Hearst Entertainment (formerly King Features Syndicate). Pulp fiction heroes like The Shadow, Doc Savage, and The Spider (regardless of the fact that the latter did not originate with the same publisher as the first two) also get grouped together. Space considerations allowing, Tarzan (and other Edgar Rice Burroughs adaptations) might share the same box with Sheena and Rima, but NOT with Ka-Zar, because he's a Marvel Universe character.
    June 11, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
  • rusty: I do keep all Star Trek series together in their own section and all Star Wars books together.  I also keep all 2000AD titles together and manga books get their own section.  For titles that have switched publishers, I usually keep them all with the publisher that I identify them with the most.  Tarzan has been published by a variety of publishers, but I keep them with Dell/Gold Key.  Conan is starting to get a bit close with all the success Dark Horse has had, but I still identify Conan more with Marvel.
    June 11, 2018, 06:27:26 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Believe it or not, I even have a box labeled "Pseudo-manga" that contains comics published by American companies and created by American creators like Astro Boy & Racer X (Now Comics), Battle of the Planets (Gold Key & Top Cow/Image), Captain Harlock (Malibu), Godzilla (Dark Horse) and Ultraman. I just want to keep those separate from the boxes of real translated manga in floppy comic format.
    June 11, 2018, 03:34:17 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Well. the problem is when you get titles with licensed characters that aren't owned by the publisher. So if you collect Star Trek comics, you'd have different series published by Gold Key, Marvel, DC, and IDW (and I probably missed one in there). It doesn't make sense to me to put them in different boxes by publisher, but to each his own. Disney comics would be another example. There are even some instances where if I like a certain artist enough, I will put all his work regardless of publisher or characters into one box, like Paul Gulacy, Steve Rude, or Mike Allred (and file them chronologically from older to newer, rather than alphabetically). Those are examples where my interest in the creator far exceeds my relative interest in whatever characters are involved.
    June 11, 2018, 03:14:29 PM
  • rusty: That makes sense.  There are many ways that people can file books.  What I do is file by company or category and then alphabetically within each section.  My first category is Richie Rich then Archie, then other Harvey titles, then Disney, then other humor/kids books, then by company (unless it is a company where I don't have very many books from them.  Star Trek and Star Wars each get their own section as well.  I will probably revamp a bit when I do my next major sort/merge.  The biggest section by far for me is DC.
    June 11, 2018, 09:28:59 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: I don't even file my comics alphabetically. I file them according to how closely they're related to other titles, but it's all dependent on the number of issues I have of any given title, and what will fit into a single box. Fpr ACP comics I just put all the short-run series (whether an actual miniseries or just a not particularly successful title) into one box. Even though some of those short run series star Jughead, and I could as easily file those together with the main JUGHEAD title in another box. For longer running ACP titles, "girl" titles are sorted into different boxes than "boy" titles. Eventually when I have enough issues of BETTY (and BETTY AND ME and BETTY'S DIARY) they'll get their own box, and VERONICA will get her own box.
    June 10, 2018, 09:49:06 AM
  • rusty: I file Jughead under J and Reggie under R in all of their incarnations, though I do file the original Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen books under S since that keeps them with the Superman books and also because they kept that title throughout their entire run.  If anyone wants to look up Jughead or Reggie in Overstreet, though, they will have to look under A for the early issues.
    June 10, 2018, 07:56:27 AM
  • BettyReggie: I can't wait to get that Reggie book. It's coming out the day after my 39th Birthday.
    June 10, 2018, 06:42:06 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Yeah, I never understood why publishers felt the need to point that out on the covers of a comic book, like maybe someone didn't really know who REGGIE was, and might buy it just because they noticed the words "Archie's Rival" above the big letters that spelled REGGIE? Same with "Archie's Pal" or "Superman's Pal" or "Superman's Girl Friend" -- like some potential buyer wouldn't know who Jughead, Jimmy Olsen, or Lois Lane was, but would know who Archie or Superman was? Just assume you're selling the product to idiots, I guess. Is anyone really filing REGGIE under "A" for Archie's Pal in their collections??
    June 10, 2018, 05:42:02 AM
  • rusty: In it's first incarnation, Reggie was titled ARCHIE'S RIVAL, REGGIE.  It wasn't until after the title was resurrected nearly a decade later that it became REGGIE and then REGGIE AND ME.
    June 09, 2018, 10:23:13 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: I've never understood why those old titles had "and Me" in them, anyway. Why not just name the titles after the starring characters?
    June 09, 2018, 08:17:45 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Funny that the trade paperback collection is entitled REGGIE AND ME Vol. 1, when his floppy comic book series was actually titled just plain REGGIE for the first 18 issues (and going on hiatus for nine years in between issues #14 and 15). Since it's only a 224-page book, that should mean we'll be seeing reprints of stories from the first 9 (or maybe 10) issues. So shouldn't it be titled REGGIE Vol. 1? Unless they actually do plan to start the first volume with issue #19 from 1966 (the first classic Evilheart issue) where the title actually changed to REGGIE AND ME. My theory is that the ME in that title = Evilheart, unlike the prior titles ARCHIE AND ME (where ME = Mr. Weatherbee), or BETTY AND ME (where the ME = Archie).
    June 09, 2018, 12:59:59 PM


Author Topic: Elemental Story  (Read 548 times)

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Elemental Story
« on: November 01, 2017, 02:00:39 PM »
Hello folks. I am trying to find an Archie story that involves two female elemental super powered beings. The first elemental lady is a teenage female with ice-powers that has snow white hair in a short, boyish haircut and wears a short blue fur dress with white fur trimming. She had blue skin. The Second lady is a fire elemental who lives on the surface of the sun, has blond spiky hair, wears dark sunglasses, wears black pants and a belly shirt and is barefooted. Any information on which story this is? Thank you for your help. :(

Captain Jetpack

Re: Elemental Story
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2017, 07:27:15 AM »
Sorry, but those aren't Archie Characters.


Fire, and her counterpart, Ice were from DC Comics, & part of the Justice League, in the 80s or 90s.
Giffen was artist or writer, I forget which.


 :coolsmiley:
Pie is my favorite Vitamin.

Re: Elemental Story
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2017, 08:45:04 AM »
Well, thank you anyway.
 :)

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Elemental Story
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2017, 03:42:52 PM »
Sorry, but those aren't Archie Characters.


Fire, and her counterpart, Ice were from DC Comics, & part of the Justice League, in the 80s or 90s.
Giffen was artist or writer, I forget which.


 :coolsmiley:

It's not DC's Fire and Ice. FIRE (Beatriz da Costa) was originally named Green Fury. She was granted the power of green flame through Brazilian mysticism and was at one time the head of the Brazilian branch of Wayne Enterprises. ICE (Tora Olafsdotter) was originally named Icemaiden. She is the princess of a lost tribe of Norse magicians, and was born with her powers naturally. Both characters were nominally supposed to have been originally members of the Global Guardians, an international team of superheroes assembled by Dr. Mist, which first appeared in the Superman team-up comic DC COMICS PRESENTS #46, but some of the members had appeared previously in SUPER FRIENDS. Ice's story is confused, because at the time she joined the Justice League International (along with Fire), she was presumed never to have been given a real name, and so either Keith Giffen (artist & co-plotter) or J.M. DeMatteis (writer & co-plotter) named her Tora Olafsdotter. They were wrong about that, though... the original Icemaiden who appeared in SUPER FRIENDS did have a name, Sigrid Nansen, and so a complicated retcon backstory was invented to explain how the original Icemaiden (Sigrid) had been replaced by a new one (Tora), who later shortened her name to just Ice.

At least one of Ice's former appearances is similar to what buefordcomics95 is recalling (except for the blue skin), but the "fire elemental" he's recalling bears no similarity to Beatriz da Costa in any of her former appearances, to say nothing of the completely different origin (she's NOT an elemental) and powers. Originally, Green Fury could only breath green flame, like a human blowtorch. After joining the JLI and changing her name to Fire, her powers were altered to allow her to project blasts of green fire from her hands, and later still so that her entire body ignited with a flaming green aura and she was able to fly -- a direct female counterpart to Marvel's Human Torch.

It's funny, because I can recall seeing online some sort of promotional giveaway comic created for (I think) an ice cream company or ice cream restaurant which involved similar characters to what buefordcomics95 is describing. Artwork was primitive compared to the time period the comic appeared (probably the 1990s), so perhaps a bit "cartoony" looking (perhaps this is why he thought it might be an Archie publication), and if I recall correctly, the 'fire elemental' was actually the villain of the story. The name of the comic completely escapes me, however.

The other thing that occurs to me is that the characters as described don't seem like they would have been out-of-place in a atory from an early 1960s issue of ADVENTURES OF THE FLY or ADVENTURES OF THE JAGUAR. Since I haven't read all of them, it's entirely possible, but I have no clue otherwise.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2017, 04:18:39 PM by DeCarlo Rules »

Wattanut

Re: Elemental Story
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 04:23:40 AM »
Thanks for the good comments.

 


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