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[October 23, 2017, 05:42:36 AM]


What comics have you been reading? by DeCarlo Rules
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Suppose if a live action comedy-drama series is based on an Archie Comics proper by terrence12
[October 23, 2017, 01:28:49 AM]


Riverdale Reviewed by Tuxedo Mark
[October 22, 2017, 09:03:05 PM]


your pal Archie complete(?) wraparound chocklit shoppe variant cover by Ronny G
[October 22, 2017, 07:16:12 PM]


What have you done today? by Archiecomicxfan215
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Library Books That You All Read by BettyReggie
[October 20, 2017, 07:34:34 AM]


Days we look foward to as Archie Fans. by BettyReggie
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My mixed thought about Cosmo and Archie Action Brand by terrence12
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  • DeCarlo Rules: Thanks, VJ. I did not know of Penny Peabody. If they're going to reprint Little Archie, I wish they'd reprint the longer, better (pre-1965) ones by Bolling. It seems like the longer stories allowed Bolling to create something more interesting out of LA, but there seems like some taboo against reprinting them in the digests.
    October 23, 2017, 09:46:35 PM
  • BettyReggie: I plan to watch Riverdale Espoide #1 & # 2 on The CW. Website later.
    October 23, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
  • Vegan Jughead: Penny Peabody was the girlfriend of Fangs Fogarty, the bully in the Little Archie comics.  I know you don't love those and even if you did read a lot of them, she's barely in them.  Really obscure.  Real Ms Grundy is dead I think.  This one stole her identity if I remember correctly.
    October 23, 2017, 12:23:28 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: ...and if Ms. Grundy wasn't Ms. Grundy, then who was she, and where is the real Ms. Grundy?
    October 23, 2017, 05:59:39 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Penny Peabody? ... original character created by the show's writers?
    October 23, 2017, 05:56:42 AM
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Archie's Weird Mysteries": "I Was a Teenage Vampire": [link]
    October 22, 2017, 09:04:01 PM
  • Ronny G: Actually yesterday. Today's Sunday, but I just got home from vacation today!
    October 22, 2017, 07:11:20 PM
  • Ronny G: Got my Betty and Veronica Halloween Annual digest in the mail today! YAY!
    October 22, 2017, 07:09:45 PM
  • Vegan Jughead: Hey but who needs Moose and Midge when you can have such prominent characters as Penny Peabody and Toni Topaz on the show?
    October 22, 2017, 10:30:03 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: Ms. Grundy would have been a total surprise but it turned out she wasn't really Ms. Grundy so I can let that go.  Killing Moose after barely seeing him last year and Midge after she was in literally one episode (and barely in it, at that) seems ridiculous.
    October 21, 2017, 08:31:51 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: For a character franchise that's been running for 75+ years, ARCHIE really has a pretty small cast of regulars. Apart from the core 5 and the other 6 already mentioned, there's Cheryl & Jason and Kevin... and (filed under "extended supporting players") the teachers and parents. That's pretty much it. 14 teen characters and their parents & teachers. Sabrina and Josie and their supporting casts coexist in Riverdale, but they're really their own separate franchises. If your murder victims turn out to be Jinx Malloy and Cricket O'Dell, there's not much drama in it, beyond a shrug.
    October 21, 2017, 07:12:39 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Why Moose and Midge? Good question... let me know if you can think of any other ongoing characters who are more expendable, but still well-known. I guess the other likely candidates would be Dilton and Ethel, or Chuck and Nancy. I guess you could come up with a short list of other names, but are they really that well-known? Ms. Grundy was a total surprise!
    October 21, 2017, 06:45:30 AM
  • BettyReggie: Midtown Comics has the new January 2018 Comics. I preordered mine.
    October 20, 2017, 05:17:44 PM
  • CAPalace: Seriously though why are Moose and Midge like one of the first people to die whenever they are in the horror stories line and now Riverdale lol
    October 20, 2017, 12:36:49 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: I recently watched Geek House's reaction to the episode. They're very amateur. They often leave in false starts and farting around before the actual intro. Joey often struggles with the episode title, like he can't just look it up before they start recording. Joey has to announce that he's putting the video into full screen and then does a countdown. Cut all of that stuff out! In the new review, he and his wife didn't react at all to Moose and Midge being killed. It soon became apparent that they didn't even know it was Moose and Midge! Joey referred to them as the "drug addicts".
    October 20, 2017, 11:42:14 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: Oh, wow, that sucks.
    October 20, 2017, 09:21:57 AM
  • JonInIowaCity: I'm not saying that they're dead, but they're not listed as appearing in any future episodes in IMBD, while other minor characters are.
    October 20, 2017, 08:53:10 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: I don't think Moose and Midge are dead.  I hope not.  It's one thing to kill Jason Blossom.  Killing two characters who have been around for 68 years is something else entirely.
    October 20, 2017, 07:43:40 AM


Author Topic: Archie The Fink  (Read 18437 times)

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daren

Archie The Fink
« on: May 06, 2016, 04:56:40 AM »
A thread for the less gentlemanly side of our titular hero, since everyone else already has their own such threads.








Okay I changed it, I didn't want anything too profane in a thread title. It doesn't express it as well but it'll do.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2016, 05:06:02 AM by daren »

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2016, 06:26:50 AM »
A thread for the less gentlemanly side of our titular hero, since everyone else already has their own such threads.








Okay I changed it, I didn't want anything too profane in a thread title. It doesn't express it as well but it'll do.

I just read that in B&VDD#243 yesterday. The above panel isn't even showing some particular example of bad behavior for Archie, rather it just typifies one of his defining characteristics. Girl-crazy, a horndog, a roving eye or a wastrel and a cad, whatever you choose to term it. That, and heedless of consequences. Without that particular aspect, he's not really Archie and probably wouldn't have lasted 75 years, despite him not being a role-model you'd hold up as worthy of emulation. Real people can't (usually) get away with that kind of behavior for long, because their actions have consequences, unlike in the cartoon world where everyone will like you no matter what you do, if you have an innocent face and appear to be oblivious and unintentional. In order for the readers to put up with it for 75 years, he only has to be funny.

Original Sin

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2016, 09:28:56 AM »
Archie is a huge jerk in too many stories. This thread is going to be fun. :D

irishmoxie

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2016, 09:37:13 AM »
What was the original title?

Original Sin

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2016, 10:08:45 AM »
Archie and Jug are both finks in this story  ;D





DeCarlo Rules

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2016, 10:21:21 AM »

It does sort of beg the logical question of why Archie didn't just use the tranquilizer spray on Veronica though, doesn't it?

Maybe he's so used to being reduced to a quivering blob of Jello whenever she gets angry at him that he was too rattled to maintain the same calm cool demeanor he had with Big Moose.

Of course the only real answer is that they had to wrap the story up on that page and needed a funny ending, and you're not supposed to be thinking about it that hard (although it's pretty hard NOT to).

daren

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2016, 01:54:06 PM »
What was the original title?


Archie the A-Hole

daren

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2016, 01:56:08 PM »

It does sort of beg the logical question of why Archie didn't just use the tranquilizer spray on Veronica though, doesn't it?

Maybe he's so used to being reduced to a quivering blob of Jello whenever she gets angry at him that he was too rattled to maintain the same calm cool demeanor he had with Big Moose.

Of course the only real answer is that they had to wrap the story up on that page and needed a funny ending, and you're not supposed to be thinking about it that hard (although it's pretty hard NOT to).


Because Veronica would remember what happened after the spray wore off, Moose's memory isn't that reliable and he wouldn't care if Reggie remembers.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2016, 03:46:18 PM »

It does sort of beg the logical question of why Archie didn't just use the tranquilizer spray on Veronica though, doesn't it?

Maybe he's so used to being reduced to a quivering blob of Jello whenever she gets angry at him that he was too rattled to maintain the same calm cool demeanor he had with Big Moose.

Of course the only real answer is that they had to wrap the story up on that page and needed a funny ending, and you're not supposed to be thinking about it that hard (although it's pretty hard NOT to).


Because Veronica would remember what happened after the spray wore off, Moose's memory isn't that reliable and he wouldn't care if Reggie remembers.

How do you know what they'd remember or wouldn't, or HOW they'd remember it? Nothing about that is mentioned in the story. For all you know, they might remember being mad, and then all of a sudden not mad, but that doesn't mean they'd get mad about it again. Maybe the experience was pleasant, and they'd want to get tranquilized again. Maybe they'd decide the feeling of being tranquilized is better than the feeling of being mad. Jughead might then go on to become the new drug kingpin of Riverdale, and easily finance a life of gluttonous excess.

OR... you're not supposed to be thinking about it that hard

Thrillho

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2016, 08:53:01 PM »
I liked the original title. It was quite apt.  ;D

I just saw this thread and I'm disappointed I didn't join in the fun sooner.



It shouldn't be too hard to find panels of Archie being a clod.

SAGG

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2016, 10:18:56 PM »
I liked the original title. It was quite apt.  ;D

I just saw this thread and I'm disappointed I didn't join in the fun sooner.



It shouldn't be too hard to find panels of Archie being a clod.

I'd preferred "Wish Goon". And I wondered what Betty would have wished for came true if it had broken her way, like, oh, Archie with a ring and a marriage proposal? :2funny:


« Last Edit: May 23, 2016, 10:21:06 PM by SAGG »

SAGG

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2016, 10:28:34 PM »
But, just wondering: Doesn't Betty and Ronica enable Archie to do his dirt by quite frankly overlooking his behavior as they continue to forgive his transgressions? Plus, Ronica cheats as much on Archie as he does her. I've always suspected that Betty would drop any boy she was going with in a New York Second if Archie suddenly asked her to go steady. I think Betty only goes out with other boys because she eventually believes Archie will someday come to his senses and see she's the only girl for him, and then she'll quit them. In the meantime, Betty refuses to be a girl that hopelessly pines for Archie by waiting by the phone while missing out on dating boys. What do you guys think?

DeCarlo Rules

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2016, 10:56:35 PM »
But, just wondering: Doesn't Betty and Ronica enable Archie to do his dirt by quite frankly overlooking his behavior as they continue to forgive his transgressions? Plus, Ronica cheats as much on Archie as he does her. I've always suspected that Betty would drop any boy she was going with in a New York Second if Archie suddenly asked her to go steady. I think Betty only goes out with other boys because she eventually believes Archie will someday come to his senses and see she's the only girl for him, and then she'll quit them. In the meantime, Betty refuses to be a girl that hopelessly pines for Archie by waiting by the phone while missing out on dating boys. What do you guys think?


There are stories where Archie treats Betty nice, and they have a wonderful time together (unsurprisingly, these stories appear nearly exclusively in Betty's own title). And there are stories where he's oblivious to her, and thoughtless of her feelings. Even worse, the stories where's he purposely cruel. The latter goes all the way back to Bob Montana's newspaper strip, where I was struck by the high incidence of daily gags where Archie says or does purposefully cruel things to Betty.


These are not the same Archie. Or he has some kind of dis-associative personality disorder. Or, each story really just exists as a kind of pocket universe all on its own.

Thrillho

Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2016, 10:57:33 PM »
But, just wondering: Doesn't Betty and Ronica enable Archie to do his dirt by quite frankly overlooking his behavior as they continue to forgive his transgressions? Plus, Ronica cheats as much on Archie as he does her. I've always suspected that Betty would drop any boy she was going with in a New York Second if Archie suddenly asked her to go steady. I think Betty only goes out with other boys because she eventually believes Archie will someday come to his senses and see she's the only girl for him, and then she'll quit them. In the meantime, Betty refuses to be a girl that hopelessly pines for Archie by waiting by the phone while missing out on dating boys. What do you guys think?

I'm a bit more upset by the way he tends to treat Betty. It's played for laughs of course but it's easy to sympathize with her when he sweet talks her into fixing his car and then at the last minute drives off to Veronica's house. It was understandable in early stories since Betty was crazy but now that they've dialed her down from 11 to 2, it's like he's kicking kitten.

Because classic Archie lacks continuity, it's not universal, but Archie tends to be possessive of both Betty and Veronica. Sometimes he has the attitude that they should both be exclusively available to him while he can date whomever he wants. Other times he can be cool about. Modern stories pre-reboot have it so it's an agreement between the three of them that they can date but there is no exclusivity between them. Regardless of that, Archie is usually the one who flakes.

Jughead is more of an enabler than Betty and Veronica since he tries to help Archie get away with his shenanigans. There are also stories where Betty and Veronica (and Cheryl and Valerie) won't put up with it but of course each story is set in its own universe so nothing sticks, and no one ever learns anything.  :D



Re: Archie The Fink
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2016, 01:47:46 AM »
What was the original title?

censored for the ultra-sensitive

So I can say for probably the first time that A.A. is a complete finkhole in this story.  ;)







So Jug wants to marry She-Hulk? Kinda suits him, actually. ::)







Well hey, now that you and B&V are over you & Braniac 5 can double date or something...

 


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