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Riverdale Podcast - Top 5!

Started by playtape, April 24, 2016, 08:48:51 AM

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invisifan

Reggie has had his own comic a (very) few times in the past but never done well with it — he got defined as a member of the core group decades ago and that's become set in stone over the years, but he's essentially a foil/antagonist and alternative for dating than a lead ... Given the small number of books they seem to be willing/able to put out at one time I doubt they'd even consider it seriously ...

GingerGal

Quote from: invisifan on April 25, 2016, 06:34:44 PM
Reggie has had his own comic a (very) few times in the past but never done well with it — he got defined as a member of the core group decades ago and that's become set in stone over the years, but he's essentially a foil/antagonist and alternative for dating than a lead ... Given the small number of books they seem to be willing/able to put out at one time I doubt they'd even consider it seriously ...
Why is it that they don't want to put out more comic series, do they have a fear they will all fail? I would think if they would come up with something or a character the fans want to see more of it would sell. Supply the fans with what they want and I would think they would buy it. I don't know I'm just a 14 year old kid and they are big time business executives, but I am also the 14 year old kid that is buying there product so they should listen.

spazaru

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
Quote from: invisifan on April 25, 2016, 06:34:44 PM
Reggie has had his own comic a (very) few times in the past but never done well with it — he got defined as a member of the core group decades ago and that's become set in stone over the years, but he's essentially a foil/antagonist and alternative for dating than a lead ... Given the small number of books they seem to be willing/able to put out at one time I doubt they'd even consider it seriously ...
Why is it that they don't want to put out more comic series, do they have a fear they will all fail? I would think if they would come up with something or a character the fans want to see more of it would sell. Supply the fans with what they want and I would think they would buy it. I don't know I'm just a 14 year old kid and they are big time business executives, but I am also the 14 year old kid that is buying there product so they should listen.

It costs money to produce comics and if you produce comics that don't sell, then that makes it tough to do more.  Archie Comics is a fairly small independent publisher.  Their margin for error is small. 

GingerGal

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 07:37:22 PM
Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
Quote from: invisifan on April 25, 2016, 06:34:44 PM
Reggie has had his own comic a (very) few times in the past but never done well with it — he got defined as a member of the core group decades ago and that's become set in stone over the years, but he's essentially a foil/antagonist and alternative for dating than a lead ... Given the small number of books they seem to be willing/able to put out at one time I doubt they'd even consider it seriously ...
Why is it that they don't want to put out more comic series, do they have a fear they will all fail? I would think if they would come up with something or a character the fans want to see more of it would sell. Supply the fans with what they want and I would think they would buy it. I don't know I'm just a 14 year old kid and they are big time business executives, but I am also the 14 year old kid that is buying there product so they should listen.

It costs money to produce comics and if you produce comics that don't sell, then that makes it tough to do more.  Archie Comics is a fairly small independent publisher.  Their margin for error is small.
But they have been around for 75 years which I would think has made them a lot of money over those many years. What have they done with all that money?

irishmoxie

Quote from: BettyReggie on April 25, 2016, 04:22:30 PM
Well she did have 37 Comics plus special issues that 48 pages. When Kevin only had 15 issues. He is getting his digital vomic which is cool. I just wish it was a real comic so I can put them in my comic frames. He looks handsome all grown up.


15 comics today is practically equal to 30 comics back in the 90s. There is less disposable income and less room for error.

GingerGal

Quote from: irishmoxie on April 25, 2016, 09:52:44 PM
Quote from: BettyReggie on April 25, 2016, 04:22:30 PM
Well she did have 37 Comics plus special issues that 48 pages. When Kevin only had 15 issues. He is getting his digital vomic which is cool. I just wish it was a real comic so I can put them in my comic frames. He looks handsome all grown up.


15 comics today is practically equal to 30 comics back in the 90s. There is less disposable income and less room for error.
Back in the 90's did the series come out more regularly?

BettyReggie

I'm not sure I didn't become a fan of Cheryl till a few years ago. I found one of her comic at comic shop & fell in love with it. I just love that she is fraternal twin like me. She is 3 minutes older than Jason. But with my twin he is one minute older than me.

playtape

Whoa! Thanks for making this such a lively thread, folks! I'm tuning out until I've made my list so that I don't get influenced, but I look forward to seeing all of your thoughts.


GingerGal

Quote from: BettyReggie on April 25, 2016, 11:33:43 PM
I'm not sure I didn't become a fan of Cheryl till a few years ago. I found one of her comic at comic shop & fell in love with it. I just love that she is fraternal twin like me. She is 3 minutes older than Jason. But with my twin he is one minute older than me.
Cool reason to like Cheryl and also cool that you have a twin. I have an older brother who is 19 and still back in South Africa as he elected to stay there and go to University there with all his friends.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: spazaru on April 25, 2016, 04:33:26 PM
I agree with what you're saying.  But for a company that has trouble selling books with Archie as the main character, I can't imagine a Jellybean spinoff being successful.

It's just that for a little while there, as far as new material was concerned (and apart from the digests), LIFE WITH ARCHIE was the most popular title, which was making ACP think about launching a VERONICA AND BETTY Magazine (as you may or may not recall). So the thinking there was along the lines of "Well, I guess people like a longer, continued story like you can get in this magazine format, with soap-opera elements, so maybe they'll go for another one along those lines").

Another possible way of thinking about it was that what the readers of LWA were liking was "the Bettyverse" or "the Veronicaverse", so maybe they'd buy another series set in that universe. That would be the thinking behind spinning the LWA Jellybean off in her own title -- as opposed to something like "Reggie has more fans than say, Kevin Keller, so why not give him his own comic book?". However, as things happened, what turned out to be the case is that LIFE WITH ARCHIE's sales described a parabola like a rocket -- at first it was one of the best-sellers that ACP had, but then it cooled down and sales dropped off rather quickly as the series progressed.

DeCarlo Rules

#70
Quote from: Fernando Ruiz on April 25, 2016, 05:19:40 PM
And it's really working out for the very best! Stay tuned for some MAJOR Kitty announcement coming VERY, VERY soon!

I've been waiting on pins & needles for this! Of course, I've been hoping from the very start, that KITTY would only be the beginning and that I could look forward to future comics from AstroComics, but I'm excited! Can't wait!!

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
Quote from: invisifan on April 25, 2016, 06:34:44 PM
Reggie has had his own comic a (very) few times in the past but never done well with it — he got defined as a member of the core group decades ago and that's become set in stone over the years, but he's essentially a foil/antagonist and alternative for dating than a lead ... Given the small number of books they seem to be willing/able to put out at one time I doubt they'd even consider it seriously ...
Why is it that they don't want to put out more comic series, do they have a fear they will all fail? I would think if they would come up with something or a character the fans want to see more of it would sell. Supply the fans with what they want and I would think they would buy it. I don't know I'm just a 14 year old kid and they are big time business executives, but I am also the 14 year old kid that is buying there product so they should listen.

I'm not sure that YOU couldn't do a better job of running things than the current "big time business executives" at ACP. They seem to have some pretty weird publishing strategies that aren't completely satisfying the 14 year old readers OR the older comic book fans that have been reading comics for decades.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 07:49:47 PM
But they have been around for 75 years which I would think has made them a lot of money over those many years. What have they done with all that money?

When times were good, I'm thinking mostly limousines, yachts and summer homes in the Hamptons.   ;)

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: irishmoxie on April 25, 2016, 09:52:44 PM
Quote from: BettyReggie on April 25, 2016, 04:22:30 PM
Well she did have 37 Comics plus special issues that 48 pages. When Kevin only had 15 issues. He is getting his digital vomic which is cool. I just wish it was a real comic so I can put them in my comic frames. He looks handsome all grown up.


15 comics today is practically equal to 30 comics back in the 90s. There is less disposable income and less room for error.

There was less disposable income back in the 1940s and early 1950s, but that was comics' peak selling period. I don't think the key is less disposable income, it's more competition from different ways to dispose of the same disposable income. Back when Cheryl Blossom was being published, spending your Cheryl Blossom money on iPad apps or digital music wasn't an option for any reader.

GingerGal

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 26, 2016, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: GingerGal on April 25, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
Quote from: invisifan on April 25, 2016, 06:34:44 PM
Reggie has had his own comic a (very) few times in the past but never done well with it — he got defined as a member of the core group decades ago and that's become set in stone over the years, but he's essentially a foil/antagonist and alternative for dating than a lead ... Given the small number of books they seem to be willing/able to put out at one time I doubt they'd even consider it seriously ...
Why is it that they don't want to put out more comic series, do they have a fear they will all fail? I would think if they would come up with something or a character the fans want to see more of it would sell. Supply the fans with what they want and I would think they would buy it. I don't know I'm just a 14 year old kid and they are big time business executives, but I am also the 14 year old kid that is buying there product so they should listen.

I'm not sure that YOU couldn't do a better job of running things than the current "big time business executives" at ACP. They seem to have some pretty weird publishing strategies that aren't completely satisfying the 14 year old readers OR the older comic book fans that have been reading comics for decades.
They really need to start listening to the readers because they are the ones that are keeping their business going. I think that is something they would have learned in Business 101. ;)

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