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Why I prefer the new Jughead title over the new Archie Title

Started by HarryLuceyFan, April 08, 2016, 11:23:41 am

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HarryLuceyFan

It's been said over and over - Erica Henderson is a terrible artist. For the record, I really don't like her style at all, but I don't think it's terrible. I hate to say this, but it's not really any worse than some of Stan G's later work. Erica's just not a good fit for Archie. She should be working on some underground independent title without any established history.


Anyhow, to my point, the writing on Jughead reminds me a lot of classic Jughead. Classic Jughead found himself in a lot of surreal fantasy situations, as he is now. Chip's take on the character is basically rooted in tradition, and I imagine if Rex Lindsey or Frenando Ruiz was illustrating this title instead of Erica, people would like it a lot.


On the other hand, I find Archie's book moving along way too slowly. I don't really find the characters are being developed much. Can you imagine people reading this without any previous knowledge of Archie whatsoever? We're seven isues in (about 150 pages!) and what's happened? Not much. It's not fun or funny. It's not entertaining. The art is prettier than that on Jughead, but to me it's just the lesser of two evils.


Of course, this is all personal opinion. I'm not right or wrong, it's just my take on things. Would anyone else care to share their take on things?

JonInIowaCity

I like her work on Jughead and Squirrel Girl, but I can understand why others don't.

And I'm a huge fan of what Chip's doing with the storytelling on this book. I agree 100% with your assessment of what makes this book's storytelling well down.

Great Gazoo

I certainly have liked the art better in the Archie reboot to date over the Jughead book. Both of the series haven't been all that great for me so far. I agree with HarryLuceyfan that the Jughead reboot has been going back to some of it's earlier roots with the dream sequences and fantasy stuff which is fine, but I would like to see some more of the sillier thing that Jughead does. We haven't see Ethel chase him around or even a glimpse of Trula his arch nemesis which in the classic stories made for some of the best stuff in my opinion. Those stories need to be introduced.

As for the Archie story it certainly is not as funny as the classic story lines, but I was kind of expecting that since it seems like ACP is trying to focus this reboot on a different age demographic and maybe leaning towards a different story. I also agree it is moving way too slow.

HarryLuceyFan

Quote from: JonInIowaCity on April 08, 2016, 11:30:46 am
I like her work on Jughead and Squirrel Girl, but I can understand why others don't.


Erica's work is, for the lack of a better word, ugly. We all know that the girls of Archie have always been stereotypically attractive. It's probably drawn in a lot of readers in the past. I believe that Erica's artwork would be more appreciated on something like Afterlife With Archie- ugly art reflecting an ugly world.

I used to be a huge Adam Hughes fan when he first started out at DC. I thought at the time he was an amazing pin-up girl artist. I'm only somewhat interested in seeing what he'll be doing on Betty and Veronica.

DeCarlo Rules

April 08, 2016, 02:02:38 pm #4 Last Edit: April 08, 2016, 02:13:26 pm by DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: HarryLuceyFan on April 08, 2016, 11:23:41 am
Anyhow, to my point, the writing on Jughead reminds me a lot of classic Jughead. Classic Jughead found himself in a lot of surreal fantasy situations, as he is now. Chip's take on the character is basically rooted in tradition, and I imagine if Rex Lindsey or Frenando Ruiz was illustrating this title instead of Erica, people would like it a lot.
On the other hand, I find Archie's book moving along way too slowly. I don't really find the characters are being developed much. Can you imagine people reading this without any previous knowledge of Archie whatsoever? We're seven isues in (about 150 pages!) and what's happened? Not much. It's not fun or funny. It's not entertaining. The art is prettier than that on Jughead, but to me it's just the lesser of two evils.
Well, I'm glad someone besides me recognized this. Took the words right outta my mouth.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: HarryLuceyFan on April 08, 2016, 01:20:52 pm
I used to be a huge Adam Hughes fan when he first started out at DC. I thought at the time he was an amazing pin-up girl artist. I'm only somewhat interested in seeing what he'll be doing on Betty and Veronica.



I'm still an Adam Hughes fan... just not for B&V. Nail on the head, HLF, nail on the head.

Great Gazoo

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 08, 2016, 02:05:25 pm
Quote from: HarryLuceyFan on April 08, 2016, 01:20:52 pm
I used to be a huge Adam Hughes fan when he first started out at DC. I thought at the time he was an amazing pin-up girl artist. I'm only somewhat interested in seeing what he'll be doing on Betty and Veronica.



I'm still an Adam Hughes fan... just not for B&V. Nail on the head, HLF, nail on the head.
I honestly have to say out of the rebooted series Betty and Veronica is the one I am most looking forward to. Now does that mean I'll be waiting in line for issue #1 in a midnight release at the comic store(if they had such a thing).......NO. I have enjoyed Adam Hughes representation in the past of both Betty and Veronica and I am kind of intrigued to see where he is going to go with it in this new series. I also want to see how he is as a writer because prior to this I had no idea he was a writer.

BettyReggie

I talk to Adam through Twitter, he is cool. He says the border picture on his page maybe the cover for Betty & Veronica #1. I really hope they 22 covers like the Archie reboot. They will because those girls are important.

Great Gazoo

Quote from: BettyReggie on April 08, 2016, 05:29:35 pm
I talk to Adam through Twitter, he is cool. He says the border picture on his page maybe the cover for Betty & Veronica #1. I really hope they 22 covers like the Archie reboot. They will because those girls are important.
They will definitely have several variant covers for the Betty and Veronica #1 that is for usre. I think it will be more like what they did with the Jughead #1 reboot though.

HarryLuceyFan

I'm curious to see Adam Hughes' interpretations of Jughead and Archie...

Great Gazoo

Quote from: HarryLuceyFan on April 08, 2016, 09:36:07 pm
I'm curious to see Adam Hughes' interpretations of Jughead and Archie...
That should be interesting. We know he draws females very well, but males we don't have much to go by. I also really want to know what his writing style is like. Does anyone know of anything that he has wrote comic book wise in the past?

HarryLuceyFan

Hughes' Betty and Henderson's Betty will NEVER be identified as the same character in side-by-side comparisons. This is a prediction I feel pretty confident about  :)

Great Gazoo


Mr.Lodge

Difference between a drag queen and a real woman  ::)

Great Gazoo

Just the Adam Hughes Eyes, Nose, and hair are so superior to what Erica Henderson did to Betty. And that is just the obvious eye sores.


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