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  • DeCarlo Rules: Thanks, VJ. I did not know of Penny Peabody. If they're going to reprint Little Archie, I wish they'd reprint the longer, better (pre-1965) ones by Bolling. It seems like the longer stories allowed Bolling to create something more interesting out of LA, but there seems like some taboo against reprinting them in the digests.
    October 23, 2017, 09:46:35 PM
  • BettyReggie: I plan to watch Riverdale Espoide #1 & # 2 on The CW. Website later.
    October 23, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
  • Vegan Jughead: Penny Peabody was the girlfriend of Fangs Fogarty, the bully in the Little Archie comics.  I know you don't love those and even if you did read a lot of them, she's barely in them.  Really obscure.  Real Ms Grundy is dead I think.  This one stole her identity if I remember correctly.
    October 23, 2017, 12:23:28 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: ...and if Ms. Grundy wasn't Ms. Grundy, then who was she, and where is the real Ms. Grundy?
    October 23, 2017, 05:59:39 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Penny Peabody? ... original character created by the show's writers?
    October 23, 2017, 05:56:42 AM
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Archie's Weird Mysteries": "I Was a Teenage Vampire": [link]
    October 22, 2017, 09:04:01 PM
  • Ronny G: Actually yesterday. Today's Sunday, but I just got home from vacation today!
    October 22, 2017, 07:11:20 PM
  • Ronny G: Got my Betty and Veronica Halloween Annual digest in the mail today! YAY!
    October 22, 2017, 07:09:45 PM
  • Vegan Jughead: Hey but who needs Moose and Midge when you can have such prominent characters as Penny Peabody and Toni Topaz on the show?
    October 22, 2017, 10:30:03 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: Ms. Grundy would have been a total surprise but it turned out she wasn't really Ms. Grundy so I can let that go.  Killing Moose after barely seeing him last year and Midge after she was in literally one episode (and barely in it, at that) seems ridiculous.
    October 21, 2017, 08:31:51 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: For a character franchise that's been running for 75+ years, ARCHIE really has a pretty small cast of regulars. Apart from the core 5 and the other 6 already mentioned, there's Cheryl & Jason and Kevin... and (filed under "extended supporting players") the teachers and parents. That's pretty much it. 14 teen characters and their parents & teachers. Sabrina and Josie and their supporting casts coexist in Riverdale, but they're really their own separate franchises. If your murder victims turn out to be Jinx Malloy and Cricket O'Dell, there's not much drama in it, beyond a shrug.
    October 21, 2017, 07:12:39 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Why Moose and Midge? Good question... let me know if you can think of any other ongoing characters who are more expendable, but still well-known. I guess the other likely candidates would be Dilton and Ethel, or Chuck and Nancy. I guess you could come up with a short list of other names, but are they really that well-known? Ms. Grundy was a total surprise!
    October 21, 2017, 06:45:30 AM
  • BettyReggie: Midtown Comics has the new January 2018 Comics. I preordered mine.
    October 20, 2017, 05:17:44 PM
  • CAPalace: Seriously though why are Moose and Midge like one of the first people to die whenever they are in the horror stories line and now Riverdale lol
    October 20, 2017, 12:36:49 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: I recently watched Geek House's reaction to the episode. They're very amateur. They often leave in false starts and farting around before the actual intro. Joey often struggles with the episode title, like he can't just look it up before they start recording. Joey has to announce that he's putting the video into full screen and then does a countdown. Cut all of that stuff out! In the new review, he and his wife didn't react at all to Moose and Midge being killed. It soon became apparent that they didn't even know it was Moose and Midge! Joey referred to them as the "drug addicts".
    October 20, 2017, 11:42:14 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: Oh, wow, that sucks.
    October 20, 2017, 09:21:57 AM
  • JonInIowaCity: I'm not saying that they're dead, but they're not listed as appearing in any future episodes in IMBD, while other minor characters are.
    October 20, 2017, 08:53:10 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: I don't think Moose and Midge are dead.  I hope not.  It's one thing to kill Jason Blossom.  Killing two characters who have been around for 68 years is something else entirely.
    October 20, 2017, 07:43:40 AM


Author Topic: Why I prefer the new Jughead title over the new Archie Title  (Read 6702 times)

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Why I prefer the new Jughead title over the new Archie Title
« on: April 08, 2016, 11:23:41 AM »
It's been said over and over - Erica Henderson is a terrible artist. For the record, I really don't like her style at all, but I don't think it's terrible. I hate to say this, but it's not really any worse than some of Stan G's later work. Erica's just not a good fit for Archie. She should be working on some underground independent title without any established history.


Anyhow, to my point, the writing on Jughead reminds me a lot of classic Jughead. Classic Jughead found himself in a lot of surreal fantasy situations, as he is now. Chip's take on the character is basically rooted in tradition, and I imagine if Rex Lindsey or Frenando Ruiz was illustrating this title instead of Erica, people would like it a lot.


On the other hand, I find Archie's book moving along way too slowly. I don't really find the characters are being developed much. Can you imagine people reading this without any previous knowledge of Archie whatsoever? We're seven isues in (about 150 pages!) and what's happened? Not much. It's not fun or funny. It's not entertaining. The art is prettier than that on Jughead, but to me it's just the lesser of two evils.


Of course, this is all personal opinion. I'm not right or wrong, it's just my take on things. Would anyone else care to share their take on things?

JonInIowaCity

I like her work on Jughead and Squirrel Girl, but I can understand why others don't.

And I'm a huge fan of what Chip's doing with the storytelling on this book. I agree 100% with your assessment of what makes this book's storytelling well down.

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I certainly have liked the art better in the Archie reboot to date over the Jughead book. Both of the series haven't been all that great for me so far. I agree with HarryLuceyfan that the Jughead reboot has been going back to some of it's earlier roots with the dream sequences and fantasy stuff which is fine, but I would like to see some more of the sillier thing that Jughead does. We haven't see Ethel chase him around or even a glimpse of Trula his arch nemesis which in the classic stories made for some of the best stuff in my opinion. Those stories need to be introduced.

As for the Archie story it certainly is not as funny as the classic story lines, but I was kind of expecting that since it seems like ACP is trying to focus this reboot on a different age demographic and maybe leaning towards a different story. I also agree it is moving way too slow.

I like her work on Jughead and Squirrel Girl, but I can understand why others don't.

Erica's work is, for the lack of a better word, ugly. We all know that the girls of Archie have always been stereotypically attractive. It's probably drawn in a lot of readers in the past. I believe that Erica's artwork would be more appreciated on something like Afterlife With Archie- ugly art reflecting an ugly world.

I used to be a huge Adam Hughes fan when he first started out at DC. I thought at the time he was an amazing pin-up girl artist. I'm only somewhat interested in seeing what he'll be doing on Betty and Veronica.

DeCarlo Rules


Anyhow, to my point, the writing on Jughead reminds me a lot of classic Jughead. Classic Jughead found himself in a lot of surreal fantasy situations, as he is now. Chip's take on the character is basically rooted in tradition, and I imagine if Rex Lindsey or Frenando Ruiz was illustrating this title instead of Erica, people would like it a lot.
On the other hand, I find Archie's book moving along way too slowly. I don't really find the characters are being developed much. Can you imagine people reading this without any previous knowledge of Archie whatsoever? We're seven isues in (about 150 pages!) and what's happened? Not much. It's not fun or funny. It's not entertaining. The art is prettier than that on Jughead, but to me it's just the lesser of two evils.
Well, I'm glad someone besides me recognized this. Took the words right outta my mouth.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2016, 02:13:26 PM by DeCarlo Rules »

DeCarlo Rules

I used to be a huge Adam Hughes fan when he first started out at DC. I thought at the time he was an amazing pin-up girl artist. I'm only somewhat interested in seeing what he'll be doing on Betty and Veronica.


I'm still an Adam Hughes fan... just not for B&V. Nail on the head, HLF, nail on the head.

Great Gazoo

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I used to be a huge Adam Hughes fan when he first started out at DC. I thought at the time he was an amazing pin-up girl artist. I'm only somewhat interested in seeing what he'll be doing on Betty and Veronica.


I'm still an Adam Hughes fan... just not for B&V. Nail on the head, HLF, nail on the head.
I honestly have to say out of the rebooted series Betty and Veronica is the one I am most looking forward to. Now does that mean I'll be waiting in line for issue #1 in a midnight release at the comic store(if they had such a thing).......NO. I have enjoyed Adam Hughes representation in the past of both Betty and Veronica and I am kind of intrigued to see where he is going to go with it in this new series. I also want to see how he is as a writer because prior to this I had no idea he was a writer.

BettyReggie

I talk to Adam through Twitter, he is cool. He says the border picture on his page maybe the cover for Betty & Veronica #1. I really hope they 22 covers like the Archie reboot. They will because those girls are important.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2016, 07:05:56 PM by BettyReggie »

Great Gazoo

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I talk to Adam through Twitter, he is cool. He says the border picture on his page maybe the cover for Betty & Veronica #1. I really hope they 22 covers like the Archie reboot. They will because those girls are important.
They will definitely have several variant covers for the Betty and Veronica #1 that is for usre. I think it will be more like what they did with the Jughead #1 reboot though.

I'm curious to see Adam Hughes' interpretations of Jughead and Archie...

Great Gazoo

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I'm curious to see Adam Hughes' interpretations of Jughead and Archie...
That should be interesting. We know he draws females very well, but males we don't have much to go by. I also really want to know what his writing style is like. Does anyone know of anything that he has wrote comic book wise in the past?

Hughes' Betty and Henderson's Betty will NEVER be identified as the same character in side-by-side comparisons. This is a prediction I feel pretty confident about  :)

Great Gazoo

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Erica Henderson

Adam Hughes


Mr.Lodge

Difference between a drag queen and a real woman  ::)
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Great Gazoo

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Just the Adam Hughes Eyes, Nose, and hair are so superior to what Erica Henderson did to Betty. And that is just the obvious eye sores.

 


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