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Title: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: Musical_Necromancer on June 11, 2016, 12:55:18 pm
gonna make it to 30 issues and will relaunch in August With 2 Issues A Month

plus she's gonna be in the newly relaunched Suicide Squad also with 2 Issues A Month

Let's Not Forget She's had 2 mini's(Harley Quinn/Power-Girl And Harley Quinn&Her Gang Of Harley's)and A Team Up Series Called Harley's Little Black Book that ships once every two months

but eventually it's gonna stop right? how long will people line up for The Crazy Clown Girl before the well runs dry
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: invisifan on June 11, 2016, 03:57:21 pm
Deadpool has been around and a big name for 20 years -- she's Deadpool+sex, so you tell me ...
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: BettyReggie on June 11, 2016, 08:01:28 pm
I used to like to Harley Quinn but it changed. I hate the gang of Harleys, so I quit reading it.
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: Musical_Necromancer on June 11, 2016, 09:55:40 pm
Quote from: BettyReggie on June 11, 2016, 08:01:28 pm
I used to like to Harley Quinn but it changed. I hate the gang of Harleys, so I quit reading it.

you know that's just a mini series right? that stuff's not gonna take up the main book much i figure(Hell Her Book Relaunches In August With 2 Issues A Month Starting with a zombie outbreak plus she's on the relaunched Suicide Squad)
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on June 12, 2016, 01:30:22 am
I used to like her, back when she looked like THIS:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3362/3646474333_6f06ef1aef.jpg)

Of course, that was back before all of THIS happened:
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg15.deviantart.net%2Fd2d3%2Fi%2F2014%2F296%2Fc%2F2%2Fharley_quinn_evolution_2_0_by_ladydeadquinn-d83k5k3.jpg&hash=8a867ee0a76ac3af37a2bb3b34e3dfc0)
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: SAGG on June 12, 2016, 08:45:25 am
Overexposure, perhaps...?
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: 60sBettyandReggie on June 12, 2016, 11:03:07 am
Oh yeah, I've seen here around. She's from Batman, right?  (I don't really read other comics,besides the cutesy ones  :-[ )
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: invisifan on June 12, 2016, 01:22:04 pm
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on June 12, 2016, 11:03:07 am
Oh yeah, I've seen here around. She's from Batman, right?  (I don't really read other comics,besides the cutesy ones  :-[ )
She started there, but she's pretty much her own thing now ... and she's had cutesy stuff  ::) ... in a psychotic, criminally insane kind of way ...  :idiot2:
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: Musical_Necromancer on June 12, 2016, 06:39:14 pm
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 12, 2016, 01:30:22 am
I used to like her, back when she looked like THIS:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3362/3646474333_6f06ef1aef.jpg)

Of course, that was back before all of THIS happened:
(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg15.deviantart.net%2Fd2d3%2Fi%2F2014%2F296%2Fc%2F2%2Fharley_quinn_evolution_2_0_by_ladydeadquinn-d83k5k3.jpg&hash=8a867ee0a76ac3af37a2bb3b34e3dfc0)


characters costumes tend to evolve over time and Harley Quinn's Original costume doesn't lend itself well to Live Action...plus the jester costume just comes off as a bit too goofy now a days
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on June 13, 2016, 12:07:42 am
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 12, 2016, 06:39:14 pm
characters costumes tend to evolve over time and Harley Quinn's Original costume doesn't lend itself well to Live Action...plus the jester costume just comes off as a bit too goofy now a days


Yes. And I tend to lose interest when they change things about a character that were part of that character's initial attraction for me. It sucks that there's no longer any room for the "comic" in comic books.  They were more entertaining when they took themselves less seriously.
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: Musical_Necromancer on June 13, 2016, 08:29:29 am
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 13, 2016, 12:07:42 am
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 12, 2016, 06:39:14 pm
characters costumes tend to evolve over time and Harley Quinn's Original costume doesn't lend itself well to Live Action...plus the jester costume just comes off as a bit too goofy now a days


Yes. And I tend to lose interest when they change things about a character that were part of that character's initial attraction for me. It sucks that there's no longer any room for the "comic" in comic books.  They were more entertaining when they took themselves less seriously.


I'm not saying that but if everything stayed the same we'd get bored eventually....this is a character that wasn't even meant to last and the only reason her comic book took off like it did is because they didn't stick so close to the animated series where she was nothing more than the joker's goofy sidekick

they took chances with her and obviously it paid off

(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd2lzb5v10mb0lj.cloudfront.net%2Fcovers_tfaw%2F400%2Fju%2Fjun160218.jpg&hash=90b2f41a8f5505e25266350b30b840c8)


(https://www.archiefans.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd2lzb5v10mb0lj.cloudfront.net%2Fcovers_tfaw%2F400%2FJU%2FJUN160230.jpg&hash=65f8bcaaae97edce0d76df8304647a04)
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: DeCarlo Rules on June 13, 2016, 11:23:10 am
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 13, 2016, 08:29:29 am
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 13, 2016, 12:07:42 am
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 12, 2016, 06:39:14 pm
characters costumes tend to evolve over time and Harley Quinn's Original costume doesn't lend itself well to Live Action...plus the jester costume just comes off as a bit too goofy now a days


Yes. And I tend to lose interest when they change things about a character that were part of that character's initial attraction for me. It sucks that there's no longer any room for the "comic" in comic books.  They were more entertaining when they took themselves less seriously.


I'm not saying that but if everything stayed the same we'd get bored eventually....this is a character that wasn't even meant to last and the only reason her comic book took off like it did is because they didn't stick so close to the animated series where she was nothing more than the joker's goofy sidekick

they took chances with her and obviously it paid off



I suppose I seem to imply that I'm singling the character of Harley out as an example of the bad sort of change in comics. That really isn't particularly the case, as in this specific example it's DC Comics in general that's gone off the rails. I just can't seem to enjoy any of that company's mainstream universe titles the way I once did about a decade ago. I guess Batman and Harley were really the only things left that were selling, which is why all the "rebirthing" is happening all over again -- DC's sales across the board having plunged drastically since the rebooted "New 52" of five years ago. That tends to make Harley Quinn look like more of a success than she really is, when really all we're talking about is less of a failure, in relative terms.
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: SAGG on June 13, 2016, 11:32:12 am
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 13, 2016, 11:23:10 am
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 13, 2016, 08:29:29 am
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 13, 2016, 12:07:42 am
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 12, 2016, 06:39:14 pm
characters costumes tend to evolve over time and Harley Quinn's Original costume doesn't lend itself well to Live Action...plus the jester costume just comes off as a bit too goofy now a days


Yes. And I tend to lose interest when they change things about a character that were part of that character's initial attraction for me. It sucks that there's no longer any room for the "comic" in comic books.  They were more entertaining when they took themselves less seriously.


I'm not saying that but if everything stayed the same we'd get bored eventually....this is a character that wasn't even meant to last and the only reason her comic book took off like it did is because they didn't stick so close to the animated series where she was nothing more than the joker's goofy sidekick

they took chances with her and obviously it paid off



I suppose I seem to imply that I'm singling the character of Harley out as an example of the bad sort of change in comics. That really isn't particularly the case, as in this specific example it's DC Comics in general that's gone off the rails. I just can't seem to enjoy any of that company's mainstream universe titles the way I once did about a decade ago. I guess Batman and Harley were really the only things left that were selling, which is why all the "rebirthing" is happening all over again -- DC's sales across the board having plunged drastically since the rebooted "New 52" of five years ago. That tends to make Harley Quinn look like more of a success than she really is, when really all we're talking about is less of a failure, in relative terms.
All of this rebooting (Marvel included) has gotten on my nerves. Because of their desire to increase sales, they keep reinventing their characters every few years or so. I'd wish they'd settle with one origin, and leave it at that...
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: Musical_Necromancer on June 16, 2016, 07:28:17 pm
Marvel Has Not Really Rebooted In Decades(DC Did It in 2011 but many are mistaking DC Rebirth as a reboot but it isn't)
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: BlueBomber2015 on June 16, 2016, 11:49:48 pm
Quote from: SAGG on June 13, 2016, 11:32:12 am
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 13, 2016, 11:23:10 am
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 13, 2016, 08:29:29 am
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 13, 2016, 12:07:42 am
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 12, 2016, 06:39:14 pm
characters costumes tend to evolve over time and Harley Quinn's Original costume doesn't lend itself well to Live Action...plus the jester costume just comes off as a bit too goofy now a days


Yes. And I tend to lose interest when they change things about a character that were part of that character's initial attraction for me. It sucks that there's no longer any room for the "comic" in comic books.  They were more entertaining when they took themselves less seriously.


I'm not saying that but if everything stayed the same we'd get bored eventually....this is a character that wasn't even meant to last and the only reason her comic book took off like it did is because they didn't stick so close to the animated series where she was nothing more than the joker's goofy sidekick

they took chances with her and obviously it paid off



I suppose I seem to imply that I'm singling the character of Harley out as an example of the bad sort of change in comics. That really isn't particularly the case, as in this specific example it's DC Comics in general that's gone off the rails. I just can't seem to enjoy any of that company's mainstream universe titles the way I once did about a decade ago. I guess Batman and Harley were really the only things left that were selling, which is why all the "rebirthing" is happening all over again -- DC's sales across the board having plunged drastically since the rebooted "New 52" of five years ago. That tends to make Harley Quinn look like more of a success than she really is, when really all we're talking about is less of a failure, in relative terms.
All of this rebooting (Marvel included) has gotten on my nerves. Because of their desire to increase sales, they keep reinventing their characters every few years or so. I'd wish they'd settle with one origin, and leave it at that...



American comic books have been rebooting to fit changing times, as well as competition from video games, ebooks, and Japanese Manga.
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: SAGG on June 17, 2016, 12:46:26 pm
Quote from: BlueBomber2015 on June 16, 2016, 11:49:48 pm
Quote from: SAGG on June 13, 2016, 11:32:12 am
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 13, 2016, 11:23:10 am
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 13, 2016, 08:29:29 am
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on June 13, 2016, 12:07:42 am
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 12, 2016, 06:39:14 pm
characters costumes tend to evolve over time and Harley Quinn's Original costume doesn't lend itself well to Live Action...plus the jester costume just comes off as a bit too goofy now a days


Yes. And I tend to lose interest when they change things about a character that were part of that character's initial attraction for me. It sucks that there's no longer any room for the "comic" in comic books.  They were more entertaining when they took themselves less seriously.


I'm not saying that but if everything stayed the same we'd get bored eventually....this is a character that wasn't even meant to last and the only reason her comic book took off like it did is because they didn't stick so close to the animated series where she was nothing more than the joker's goofy sidekick

they took chances with her and obviously it paid off



I suppose I seem to imply that I'm singling the character of Harley out as an example of the bad sort of change in comics. That really isn't particularly the case, as in this specific example it's DC Comics in general that's gone off the rails. I just can't seem to enjoy any of that company's mainstream universe titles the way I once did about a decade ago. I guess Batman and Harley were really the only things left that were selling, which is why all the "rebirthing" is happening all over again -- DC's sales across the board having plunged drastically since the rebooted "New 52" of five years ago. That tends to make Harley Quinn look like more of a success than she really is, when really all we're talking about is less of a failure, in relative terms.
All of this rebooting (Marvel included) has gotten on my nerves. Because of their desire to increase sales, they keep reinventing their characters every few years or so. I'd wish they'd settle with one origin, and leave it at that...



American comic books have been rebooting to fit changing times, as well as competition from video games, ebooks, and Japanese Manga.
True, but not every few years on the same characters. DC (and Marvel) has had, what, New 52, and Rebirth, all within a span of five years? I've never recalled this much frequency in tearing up things and rebuilding. Crisis on Infinite Earths really redefined superhero storytelling to me. DC should have left it at that. Stick with the Tried and True. Constantly changing and reimagining to me means desperation and impatience....
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: Musical_Necromancer on June 17, 2016, 07:37:01 pm
Again Rebirth is not a reboot it's more or less a relaunch with added elements that were in the pre-52 universe

Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: SAGG on June 17, 2016, 08:39:44 pm
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 17, 2016, 07:37:01 pm
Again Rebirth is not a reboot it's more or less a relaunch with added elements that were in the pre-52 universe
What's the difference, other than this so-called added element(s), which were apparently already there before, and shouldn't have been taken out in the first place? It seems to me that it's just switching around stuff, and throwing in what was already there, saying it's different now...
Title: Re: Harley Quinn is like the unexpected Success Story For DC Comics
Post by: Musical_Necromancer on June 19, 2016, 07:26:23 pm
Quote from: SAGG on June 17, 2016, 08:39:44 pm
Quote from: Musical_Necromancer on June 17, 2016, 07:37:01 pm
Again Rebirth is not a reboot it's more or less a relaunch with added elements that were in the pre-52 universe
What's the difference, other than this so-called added element(s), which were apparently already there before, and shouldn't have been taken out in the first place? It seems to me that it's just switching around stuff, and throwing in what was already there, saying it's different now...


they were there in the pre new 52 universe but not when the reboot happened...this is happening because they realized some of their mistakes with that move and are trying to get back to some of the classic elements of things