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What comics have you been reading?

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DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: rusty on July 12, 2017, 09:24:05 PM
Finding time to read all of this is the biggest problem.  I may eventually cut back, but figure there will be time to read everything when I retire if necessary.

That IS the problem. If you don't read them "hot off the press" the week they're released, I'm forced to wonder what's the point of accumulating floppy comics. I constantly see 90% of the floppy comics I bought just a few years ago when rifling through the 50 cent bins. Oh, they're still worth reading if you're interested in them, but it does beg the question of the reason people are collecting comic books in that format -- other than the weight of 50+ years of comic book readers for whom there was essentially no other choice available. Since we now are living in a time when we're disabused of the notion that collecting new comic books is an "investment", aren't we really only saving them so we can re-read the stories we particularly liked again later? In the meantime, there's vast amounts of energy to be expended on tracking titles and issues to be checked off lists, bagging/boarding, boxing and filing all those floppy comics. And they're so easily damaged by careless handling or storage when not protected by plastic and cardboard collecting supplies. I'm just lazy and I'm trying to cut down on the amount of effort I have to put into the collecting part of my library of comics. These days when I buy a floppy I'm probably buying it as much for the cover art as anything else, as I can always get the story at a later time in paperback or hardcover (or digitally, if that's what I preferred). Sometimes if it's a marginal-selling title I'll buy it just as a show of support for something I really like. Otherwise it's probably a title from one of those small publishers for whom a trade collection isn't guaranteed.

Nowadays comic books from all but the most marginal of publishers are virtually guaranteed to be available either as digital singles, or as trade paperbacks (usually both). So if you're not going to read them first, while they're still fresh, you might as well wait for the trade collection. Most of the current floppy comics I read now are just borrowed (usually on the day they're released, and returned in the same condition I got them within a week, if not the next day). The owner of my LCS is a personal friend.

Less than half of those floppy comics that I read I deem worthy of buying the trade collections of, but between recent stories and older material, I still manage to buy an average of 6 paperback or hardcover comics collections every week. I do have a particular weakness for Archives, Masterworks, Omnibus, Absolute, and other similar deluxe format comics (particularly comics from the 1930s through 1960s), as well as for hardcover newspaper strip collections from IDW's Library of American Comics and Hermes Press. Those hardcover collections tend to appear less frequently on my reading list, because they can sometimes sit for a long time before I get around to reading them. My priority is to read those borrowed floppy comics and return them quickly. Also, it can sometimes take me a long time (depending on how many comics are reprinted in a hardcover collection) to get through them, because I usually have a few different collected editions going at any one time that I sometimes put down for a little while, then read something else, then come back to it later -- sometimes much later. Depends on the nature of what's collected in the book and the overall length, unless it's one LONG story, then I usually try to read the whole thing contiguously. I guess that's one good thing about floppies, you can squeeze in a quick read of the whole comic when you don't have time to sit and read the whole of something lengthier that has 100-500 pages.

BettyReggie

I haven't read any in a while because I'm coloring a lot so today I will read.

rusty

The floppy format is my preferred format and one that I've been collecting for 39 years so it does have that weight of history/habit on its side for me.  I don't like reading digital comics, though I do not begrudge those that do.  I don't really enjoy reading ebooks either, preferring to either listen to an audiobook or to hold an actual book in my hands.

I know a number of people who wait for the trade and I think that is not a bad idea, especially for mini series.  It also helps when there are major delays on titles since sometimes there are many months between issues of certain  titles.  I haven't made the switch to trades, except when I get into a title late occasionally like Outcast from Image, because I still prefer the floppies and not everything gets collected.

It is nice in this day and age that people generally have options in terms of how they want to collect.  I hope that digital sales go through the roof since that will help keep titles afloat.  I've read a number of predictions in recent years about the imminent death of the floppy, but I just don't see it in the near future.  Maybe some day.

I kind of enjoy the binge reading and don't mind the books piling up for a while during the school year.  For mini series, I often put them in a box until the series is complete anyway.  For Image  titles, I often wait until the first arc is completed to read them.  Yes, this could be done by buying the trade, but I'm good with my method.  I'm fortunate that I have a nice job and can afford to buy the number of comics and other things that I like.  It helps that I don't have student loans or a house payment to worry about and that I don't have extravagant tastes.

Back in 2005 when the comic shop I worked at closed, I gave serious consideration to stopping collecting all but a handful of titles.  After mulling it over for a while, I decided to continue as before and have been using a mail order store.  It has worked out pretty well.  I went a different route with paper books.  I now only purchase new books from my favorite authors or books in a handful of series.  The rest of the books that I read are either ones that I already had or ones that I check out from the library.  I make a lot of use of the library.  I know a few people who buy a lot of bluray or dvd copies of movies, though that is changing with Netflix and the like.  If I don't watch it on tv or see it in the theater, I'll wait until the movie or tv show is available to borrow (for free) from the library or until it is available on cable or Netflix.  Maybe I'll make the change with comics eventually, but not any time soon.

DeCarlo Rules

#1188
I guess with floppy comics I always felt that the immediacy of "this week's comics" is what kept that format going. As in, there are tons of comics being published every month, so you can't read them all -- so every floppy comic you read is informing you about adjustments you need to make to your reading (and spending) patterns.

If you save up six issues of a new miniseries that you were pretty sure you were going to enjoy when you decided to buy it, then read the first issue and it stinks, now what do you do? What if the second issue stinks just as bad? Do you tough it out and read them all, even though it's now a chore because you obviously made a bad choice, but having spent the money already, you feel like you need to justify it? Even worse if you're reading a lot of Marvel and DC comics, when there's some line-wide event thing going on. Can you be sure you're reading them all in the correct order according to the week they were released? And what if, a few issues in (to a crossover that involves dozens of comics) you're not even liking the story?

I used to read about 75-80% of all the "universe" titles Marvel and DC published, but gimmick storylines and crossovers really burnt me out on those publishers. For Marvel, I essentially stopped buying floppies after Dark Reign ended with Siege. Those massive months-long stories just never seemed to have any real dramatic payoff, they just ground to a halt, while simultaneously planting a number of seeds for the next upcoming crossover event. TBH, that had already happened for me with the X-Men and Spider-Man titles back in the early 1990s. After Siege, I kept reading a few things like Ed Brubaker's Captain America, Matt Fraction's Iron Man, and Mark Waid's Daredevil, mainly because I'd been reading them since the beginnings of those runs, but eventually they got around to cancelling/renumbering or changing creative teams, and I stopped reading when the writers I liked stopped writing them. Other Marvel titles which I've read since that time usually got cancelled fairly quickly, running around 15 issues or less. As of right now I'm down to reading just Dan Slott and Mike Allred's Silver Surfer and Jeff Lemire and Mike Deodato's Thanos, Cullen Bunn's X-Men Blue (which I don't imagine will last long for me) and the occasional miniseries (R.L. Stein's Man-Thing was fun), plus I'll read some first issues here and there, just to check them out, but I'm finding fewer and fewer Marvels to read.

With DC, it was after Flashpoint (which was terrible) resulted in the New 52 reboot. Again, I stopped buying the floppies, but kept on reading the Geoff Johns/Peter Tomasi Green Lantern titles (until they quit writing them with issue #40), Paul Levitz' Legion of Super-Heroes (until it got cancelled), and Grant Morrison's Batman Incorporated (until that ended, too). For a while I read Justice League Dark, Charles Soule's Swamp Thing, Pandora, Phantom Stranger and Trinity of Sin, but they all got cancelled too. After DC Rebirth I tried a bunch of them, then settled down to reading just Greg Rucka's Wonder Woman and James Tynion IV's Detective Comics, but Rucka left WW with #25, so I'm down to just the one DC Universe title. I did read The Death of Hawkman miniseries and liked it, so I bought the TP. I do read a few other non-DCU titles like Astro City, Batman '66, Wonder Woman '77, Future Quest, Scooby-Doo Team-Up, and Looney Tunes (just started actually). The latter five are floppies I actually buy (even though I'll also get the trade collections of Astro City, Batman '66, Future Quest and Scooby-Doo Team-Up). Future Quest is concluded now and I think that Batman '66 is ending with next week's LSH team-up one-shot.

That's a huge drop from six or seven years ago, though. Fortunately it leaves me more time and money to read comics from other publishers!

BettyReggie

#1189
I read these books in my room for 12 minutes each
The Art Of Betty & Veronica
The Best Of Archie Comics 75 Years 75 Stories
Archie 1000 Page Comics Blowout
Archie 1000 Page Comics Shindig
I finshed Scott Pilgrim-Volume #4-Gets It Together



irishmoxie

Quote from: rusty on July 14, 2017, 09:46:18 AM
The floppy format is my preferred format and one that I've been collecting for 39 years so it does have that weight of history/habit on its side for me.  I don't like reading digital comics, though I do not begrudge those that do.  I don't really enjoy reading ebooks either, preferring to either listen to an audiobook or to hold an actual book in my hands.

I know a number of people who wait for the trade and I think that is not a bad idea, especially for mini series.  It also helps when there are major delays on titles since sometimes there are many months between issues of certain  titles.  I haven't made the switch to trades, except when I get into a title late occasionally like Outcast from Image, because I still prefer the floppies and not everything gets collected.

It is nice in this day and age that people generally have options in terms of how they want to collect.  I hope that digital sales go through the roof since that will help keep titles afloat.  I've read a number of predictions in recent years about the imminent death of the floppy, but I just don't see it in the near future.  Maybe some day.

I kind of enjoy the binge reading and don't mind the books piling up for a while during the school year.  For mini series, I often put them in a box until the series is complete anyway.  For Image  titles, I often wait until the first arc is completed to read them.  Yes, this could be done by buying the trade, but I'm good with my method.  I'm fortunate that I have a nice job and can afford to buy the number of comics and other things that I like.  It helps that I don't have student loans or a house payment to worry about and that I don't have extravagant tastes.

Back in 2005 when the comic shop I worked at closed, I gave serious consideration to stopping collecting all but a handful of titles.  After mulling it over for a while, I decided to continue as before and have been using a mail order store.  It has worked out pretty well.  I went a different route with paper books.  I now only purchase new books from my favorite authors or books in a handful of series.  The rest of the books that I read are either ones that I already had or ones that I check out from the library.  I make a lot of use of the library.  I know a few people who buy a lot of bluray or dvd copies of movies, though that is changing with Netflix and the like.  If I don't watch it on tv or see it in the theater, I'll wait until the movie or tv show is available to borrow (for free) from the library or until it is available on cable or Netflix.  Maybe I'll make the change with comics eventually, but not any time soon.


My main county library has floppy comics now! I went there and they had the latest issues of Jem. I also sometimes go to Books a Million to read comics for free.

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: irishmoxie on July 14, 2017, 10:28:26 PM
My main county library has floppy comics now! I went there and they had the latest issues of Jem.

Interesting. You are the first person that I'm aware of to report this. Which makes me wonder -- were these comics that you could borrow and take home like a regular library book? I guess that would mean they'd need to have a little pocket with a card in it glued on in the back of the comic. I don't imagine that floppy comics could stand up to much handling under normal library usage.

If they could only be read on the premises of the library and not taken out, it would seem to make more sense for libraries to have subsciptions to digital comics which would be available to read on the library's computers. Then they wouldn't need to worry about damage to the comics, or storing and filing them.

rusty

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on July 14, 2017, 03:31:12 PM
If you save up six issues of a new miniseries that you were pretty sure you were going to enjoy when you decided to buy it, then read the first issue and it stinks, now what do you do? What if the second issue stinks just as bad? Do you tough it out and read them all, even though it's now a chore because you obviously made a bad choice, but having spent the money already, you feel like you need to justify it? Even worse if you're reading a lot of Marvel and DC comics, when there's some line-wide event thing going on. Can you be sure you're reading them all in the correct order according to the week they were released? And what if, a few issues in (to a crossover that involves dozens of comics) you're not even liking the story?


I'll give a series at least a couple of issues before giving up on it and even then I'll usually skim the rest.  If I made a bad purchase, then I made a bad purchase, but it could happen just as easily with a trade paperback collection.  It doesn't happen too often, though - maybe 1 or 2 series each year.  I'm usually able to turn around and sell the issues to a friend for about what I paid for them so no big loss.  There haven't been the line wide events where continuity is very important for a while.  There are crossovers like the Batman and Flash one not that long ago and they are usually numbered so reading order is easy to follow.  With the Civil War II storyline that Marvel had, I just stuck to reading the books that I normally collect - Ms. Marvel, Spider-Man, etc. and ignored the rest.  I only got part of the big picture, but that was okay.  I don't feel compelled  to buy every issue in an event like that.


I've seen a couple of libraries with floppies for people to read.  I think they stay in the library and don't circulate, though.  Trade paperbacks seem to be pretty popular, though.  A lot of the local libraries have a graphic novel section and many carry at least some manga in addition to the regular comic companies.  I don' t think digital would work too well for libraries with comics unless they had something like Overdrive and even then the logistics could be difficult.  Maybe some day.


I've caught up on Image and have moved on to Dark Horse.  Here are the titles from yesterday and lined up for this weekend:


Kingsway West
Resident Alien - I love this series
Mae - a nice first story arc
Groo
Usagi Yojimbo - a long running favorite
Tomb Raider
Serenity
Spell on Wheels
Briggs Land
Conan
World of Tanks
Dark Horse Presents
Tarzan on the Planet of the Apes
Judge Dredd vs Predators vs Aliens
Angel
Buffy
Aliens (various titles)
Hellboy
Lobster Johnson
Baltimore
Witchfinder
Rise of the Black Flame

DeCarlo Rules

#1193
Quote from: rusty on July 15, 2017, 10:47:06 AM
it could happen just as easily with a trade paperback collection.  It doesn't happen too often, though - maybe 1 or 2 series each year.

Nope, it never happens. All of the the material appearing in trade or hardcover has appeared before, unless it's an "OGN". Those are pretty rare in American comics publishing. Otherwise it's stuff I've already seen before, so I'm well aware of what I'm getting. In a few instances where I have absolute confidence in the creators of the material, I may defer reading it in the cheaper format before buying the trade because I want to wait to read it all together in one shot.

Some creators whose work I generally enjoy don't always hit a home run every time at bat though, and I generally know which ones those are. I've enjoyed most of the Millarworld comics up through MPH and Huck, but recent ones like Chrononauts, Empress, and Reborn just didn't do anything for me. I never finished Chrononauts and didn't even bother reading past #1 of Reborn because the concept just wasn't interesting me, so I won't be getting trades on those.

Conversely, I could pick up any new series Ed Brubaker writes (if I could stand to wait that long) in the Deluxe HC edition and never have to worry whether it was going to deliver or not. Somehow or other I had missed one of the floppies of Velvet and got behind on it, and I realized I was having a hard time following the twists of plot because of reading it serialized that way, so I just gave up on reading the floppies at that point and decided to wait for the hardcover collecting the entire 15 issues. It read a lot better and made more sense that way, even though I'd be a liar if I said I didn't enjoy reading the individual issues. It's just that I can't remember every detail from months earlier, so it was easier to follow the plot that way.

Resident Alien is also one of my favorites, and one where I just skip reading the floppies and wait for the trade because they read better that way. Lobster Johnson's another great title but I do like reading the singles as they come out, then I get the trade later to keep. I wish it could come out more often, but Tonci Zonjic is just a slow (but excellent) artist.

I enjoyed the Judge Dredd vs Predator vs Aliens (still waiting for the collection on that one) and the Tarzan/Planet of the Apes crossover. Unfortunately the Green Lantern/Planet of the Apes miniseries was pretty weak both story and art-wise, so I won't be getting that TP, even though I enjoyed both of the Star Trek/Green Lantern miniseries and the Star Trek/Planet of the Apes series. Nothing to do with Dark Horse I know, but most of the DC/IDW and IDW/Boom crossovers have been good up to now, so I don't know if they're starting to just "mail it in", confident that people will buy it no matter who writes and draws it. The problem with  Dark Horse's JDvPvA was that it took forever for all 4 issues to come out (just about a year, IIRC). Most of the Judge Dredd crossover stories have been good, and this one was no exception, but there's probably no excuse for taking that long between issues. I guess it's all relative, if we compared that to Afterlife With Archie, then it makes JDvPvA look like it was over and done in an eyeblink.


DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: rusty on July 14, 2017, 09:46:18 AM
I hope that digital sales go through the roof since that will help keep titles afloat. I've read a number of predictions in recent years about the imminent death of the floppy, but I just don't see it in the near future. Maybe some day.

I'm not sure I follow that logic. It makes more sense to make a title digital-exclusive if it sells through the roof in that format, but the print sales are barely enough to recoup the publisher's bills from the printer. Seems to me in that situation it makes more sense to cancel the print comic (if I were the publisher) if it's barely breaking even or even costing the publisher money.

When you see all the titles barely selling a few thousand copies, you have to wonder about the future of floppy comics. It's different if you're selling a few thousand copies of a trade collection, because the cover price is something like 5 times that of a floppy comic.

BettyReggie

I read each of these books for 12 minutes
Archie 1000 Page Comics Blowout
Archie 1000 Page Comics Bonanza
Archie 1000 Page Comics Celebration
Archie 1000 Page Comics Shindig

rusty

Now on to Dynamite for the next few days:


Battlestar Galactica
Battlestar Galactica Gods and Monsters
Control
Flash  Gordon King's Cross
Gold Key Alliance
Green Hornet Reign of the Demon
James Bond Eidolon, Hammerhead and Felic Leiter
Dresden Files Wild Card
King's Quest
Lone Ranger Green Hornet
Lords of the Jungle
Mighty Mouse
Miss Fury
Pathfinder Worldscape
Red Sonja
Stargate Daniel Jackson and Vala Mal Doran (older series)

irishmoxie

Quote from: rusty on July 17, 2017, 10:14:20 AM
Now on to Dynamite for the next few days:


Battlestar Galactica
Battlestar Galactica Gods and Monsters
Control
Flash  Gordon King's Cross
Gold Key Alliance
Green Hornet Reign of the Demon
James Bond Eidolon, Hammerhead and Felic Leiter
Dresden Files Wild Card
King's Quest
Lone Ranger Green Hornet
Lords of the Jungle
Mighty Mouse
Miss Fury
Pathfinder Worldscape
Red Sonja
Stargate Daniel Jackson and Vala Mal Doran (older series)


No Boo the worlds cutest dog?

DeCarlo Rules

Quote from: irishmoxie on July 17, 2017, 08:12:12 PM
No Boo the worlds cutest dog?

I never had much interest in comics where animals are the main character, unless they're anthropomorphic animals like Bugs Bunny or the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, who basically just talk and act like human beings. I guess there's a category where the animals are pets yet we know what they're thinking by reading their thoughts in balloons, like Hot Dog or Garfield, but I never had much interest in those, either. I guess the stories that might come closest that interested me were those with the Legion of Super-Pets or the Space Canine Patrol Agency, both of them teams of super-animals. But they all think and behave more or less like human minds with animal bodies, so I wonder if those even count. Then again, there is a hazy line between comics that are actually cute and those that are cloyingly/annoyingly cute. My saccharin advance-warning radar is certainly set off when they feel the need to TELL you it's cute. It might amount to an equal and opposite reaction to any perceived attempt at too-obviously manipulative marketing.

DeCarlo Rules

#1199
07/12 - 07/17:
TARANTULA HC [AdHouse Books]
SPACE RIDERS TP [Black Mask Comics]

ALL TIME COMICS: ATLAS #1 [Fantagraphics]
ALL TIME COMICS: CRIME DESTROYER #1 [Fantagraphics]

GUNWITCH: OUTSKIRTS OF DOOM TP [Oni Press]
NOCTURNALS: SINISTER PATH TP VOL 01 [Big WoW]

VELVET: DELUXE EDITION HC [Image, collects issues #1-15]

THE SLEEPER OMNIBUS HC [DC, collects POINT BLANK #1-5, SLEEPER #1-12, & SLEEPER: SEASON TWO #1-12] - Ed Brubaker is probably my favorite writer working in mainstream comics right now, and he has a perfectly suited artistic collaborator in Sean Phillips. SLEEPER was the breakout series that put these two on the map. Holden Carver is a metahuman espionage double agent under deep cover, infiltrating a metahuman terrorist syndicate. On a covert mission to recover alien tech from a crashed spacecraft, Carver's entire team was killed. Carver alone survived to find an alien artifact somehow fused to his nervous system, one that allows him to absorb and heal any amount of physical damage without feeling pain, and to release that pain multiplied, simply by touching someone -- this makes him practically unkillable, but the downside is he can no longer FEEL anything. Manipulated into the undercover assignment by Lynch, his hated boss at I.O., and with falsified evidence of treason to create a cover for his entree into the syndicate, he's left with no means of exfiltration and no evidence of the truth of his loyalty when an assassin's shot to the head puts Lynch into a coma. That's just where the story begins. That's a slight oversimplification of the setup, but it gets more interesting from there. Carver kills members of his own agency (formerly those earmarked as 'expendable' by I.O., but now without Lynch controlling operations, inculpable government agents) with impunity both to save his own skin and to maintain his cover (which amounts to the same thing), but surrounded by both those he's being manipulated by, and those he's manipulating, and with no one to trust, he begins to question his true purpose and identity, and whether he's actually become the very "bad guy" he's pretending to be... and who is the worse manipulator, his agency boss Lynch, or Tao, the head of the terrorist syndicate. Things are further complicated by his relationship to other metahuman members of the terrorist syndicate with whom he must work, all of whom are interesting characters with a fleshed-out backstory, and the mind games he must play against Tao to remain in his good graces, constantly on guard that his true status as a double agent will be uncovered. Setting the story in the Wildstorm Universe of costumed metahuman heroes and villains, most of whom are viewed from a distance and from the perspective of a seedy underbelly world filled with moral gray tones, gives this series a unique ambiance.

ELEPHANTMEN #33 & 56 [Image Comics 2011, 2014] - I read these two issues because they were both drawn by Shaky Kane, one of my favorite current artists.

DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES #1-6 (of 6)[IDW 2014] - Prequel to the 2014 film, which I also re-watched, before going to see War for the Planet of the Apes. The film was excellent, the comic merely okay.

FATMAN THE HUMAN FLYING SAUCER #3 [Lightning Comics 1967] - By Otto Binder & C.C. Beck. It did not catch on like their earlier work on Captain Marvel in the 1940s, and this was the final issue. Jughead would have liked this gourmand hero, who often has food-related plot devices in his stories, and a never-ending stream of food-based exclamatory phrases.

BETTY & VERONICA JUMBO COMICS DIGEST #255

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