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  • Tuxedo Mark: And another one: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:42:07 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: Riverdale spoof: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Roughing It!" from B&V Friends #262: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:12:53 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: @irishmoxie -- It's definitely complete. All six of the 1958-59 Sy Reit/Bob White original issues, plus the feature-length "Good Guys of the Galaxy" by Tom DeFalco & Fernando Ruiz from ARCHIE #655, and three 5-page digest shorts that guest-starred Cosmo -- and the complete first issue of the Ian Flynn/Tracy Yarley COSMO (2017) thrown in for good measure. It follows the same layout/format as the previous JUGHEAD'S TIME POLICE, even though that didn't carry the "Archie Comics Presents..." trade dress. Not a bad buy for $11.
    June 14, 2018, 01:08:59 AM
  • irishmoxie: Anyone get the Cosmo book that came out today? Any good?
    June 13, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
  • Cosmo: Ah man....and I was worried I was the last enthusiast for ERB's stuff. I'm currently rereading my Dell Tarzan books. Really good fun! It took a while to complete that run.
    June 12, 2018, 06:51:53 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: ...Marvel's earlier JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS in there, so the DE Tarzan comics need to go in a different box, and SHEENA (also a recent DE title) and DC's RIMA THE JUNGLE GIRL will help fill up that box.
    June 11, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Recently. DE's unauthorized LORD OF THE JUNGLE Tarzan adaptations (and its authorized THE GREATEST ADVENTURE) won't fit into my existing box of previous Tarzan comics from Gold Key, DC, and Dark Horse, so I have to start a new box. Logically these get filed with DE's unauthorized WARLORD OF MARS comics (including DEJAH THORIS) and their authorized JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS. But I also want to squeeze Marve;
    June 11, 2018, 07:38:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Interesting. I tend not to group titles by publisher at all, if the characters were not created as work-for-hire (meaning the publisher is legally considered the 'author' of the character). Do they belong to that publisher's "universe" (assuming it has one)? There are some publishers like Dynamite Entertainment where the vast majority of the titles they publish are licensed, and thus were "inherited" from other publishers. Therefore it makes more sense to me to group them together in boxes with similar characters. Flash Gordon, The Phantom, and Mandrake comics (regardless of who the actual publisher was) go together in the same box because they're all classic adventure heroes licensed from Hearst Entertainment (formerly King Features Syndicate). Pulp fiction heroes like The Shadow, Doc Savage, and The Spider (regardless of the fact that the latter did not originate with the same publisher as the first two) also get grouped together. Space considerations allowing, Tarzan (and other Edgar Rice Burroughs adaptations) might share the same box with Sheena and Rima, but NOT with Ka-Zar, because he's a Marvel Universe character.
    June 11, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
  • rusty: I do keep all Star Trek series together in their own section and all Star Wars books together.  I also keep all 2000AD titles together and manga books get their own section.  For titles that have switched publishers, I usually keep them all with the publisher that I identify them with the most.  Tarzan has been published by a variety of publishers, but I keep them with Dell/Gold Key.  Conan is starting to get a bit close with all the success Dark Horse has had, but I still identify Conan more with Marvel.
    June 11, 2018, 06:27:26 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Believe it or not, I even have a box labeled "Pseudo-manga" that contains comics published by American companies and created by American creators like Astro Boy & Racer X (Now Comics), Battle of the Planets (Gold Key & Top Cow/Image), Captain Harlock (Malibu), Godzilla (Dark Horse) and Ultraman. I just want to keep those separate from the boxes of real translated manga in floppy comic format.
    June 11, 2018, 03:34:17 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Well. the problem is when you get titles with licensed characters that aren't owned by the publisher. So if you collect Star Trek comics, you'd have different series published by Gold Key, Marvel, DC, and IDW (and I probably missed one in there). It doesn't make sense to me to put them in different boxes by publisher, but to each his own. Disney comics would be another example. There are even some instances where if I like a certain artist enough, I will put all his work regardless of publisher or characters into one box, like Paul Gulacy, Steve Rude, or Mike Allred (and file them chronologically from older to newer, rather than alphabetically). Those are examples where my interest in the creator far exceeds my relative interest in whatever characters are involved.
    June 11, 2018, 03:14:29 PM
  • rusty: That makes sense.  There are many ways that people can file books.  What I do is file by company or category and then alphabetically within each section.  My first category is Richie Rich then Archie, then other Harvey titles, then Disney, then other humor/kids books, then by company (unless it is a company where I don't have very many books from them.  Star Trek and Star Wars each get their own section as well.  I will probably revamp a bit when I do my next major sort/merge.  The biggest section by far for me is DC.
    June 11, 2018, 09:28:59 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: I don't even file my comics alphabetically. I file them according to how closely they're related to other titles, but it's all dependent on the number of issues I have of any given title, and what will fit into a single box. Fpr ACP comics I just put all the short-run series (whether an actual miniseries or just a not particularly successful title) into one box. Even though some of those short run series star Jughead, and I could as easily file those together with the main JUGHEAD title in another box. For longer running ACP titles, "girl" titles are sorted into different boxes than "boy" titles. Eventually when I have enough issues of BETTY (and BETTY AND ME and BETTY'S DIARY) they'll get their own box, and VERONICA will get her own box.
    June 10, 2018, 09:49:06 AM
  • rusty: I file Jughead under J and Reggie under R in all of their incarnations, though I do file the original Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen books under S since that keeps them with the Superman books and also because they kept that title throughout their entire run.  If anyone wants to look up Jughead or Reggie in Overstreet, though, they will have to look under A for the early issues.
    June 10, 2018, 07:56:27 AM
  • BettyReggie: I can't wait to get that Reggie book. It's coming out the day after my 39th Birthday.
    June 10, 2018, 06:42:06 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Yeah, I never understood why publishers felt the need to point that out on the covers of a comic book, like maybe someone didn't really know who REGGIE was, and might buy it just because they noticed the words "Archie's Rival" above the big letters that spelled REGGIE? Same with "Archie's Pal" or "Superman's Pal" or "Superman's Girl Friend" -- like some potential buyer wouldn't know who Jughead, Jimmy Olsen, or Lois Lane was, but would know who Archie or Superman was? Just assume you're selling the product to idiots, I guess. Is anyone really filing REGGIE under "A" for Archie's Pal in their collections??
    June 10, 2018, 05:42:02 AM
  • rusty: In it's first incarnation, Reggie was titled ARCHIE'S RIVAL, REGGIE.  It wasn't until after the title was resurrected nearly a decade later that it became REGGIE and then REGGIE AND ME.
    June 09, 2018, 10:23:13 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: I've never understood why those old titles had "and Me" in them, anyway. Why not just name the titles after the starring characters?
    June 09, 2018, 08:17:45 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Funny that the trade paperback collection is entitled REGGIE AND ME Vol. 1, when his floppy comic book series was actually titled just plain REGGIE for the first 18 issues (and going on hiatus for nine years in between issues #14 and 15). Since it's only a 224-page book, that should mean we'll be seeing reprints of stories from the first 9 (or maybe 10) issues. So shouldn't it be titled REGGIE Vol. 1? Unless they actually do plan to start the first volume with issue #19 from 1966 (the first classic Evilheart issue) where the title actually changed to REGGIE AND ME. My theory is that the ME in that title = Evilheart, unlike the prior titles ARCHIE AND ME (where ME = Mr. Weatherbee), or BETTY AND ME (where the ME = Archie).
    June 09, 2018, 12:59:59 PM


Author Topic: What comics have you been reading?  (Read 263571 times)

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DeCarlo Rules

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1215 on: July 27, 2017, 02:24:29 PM »
Been reading some webcomics. DICK TRACY dailies and Sundays from 2012-2013 by Joe Staton and Mike Collins at gocomics.com/dicktracy, and EVIL INC. from 2006 (mostly daily) by Brad Guigar at evil-inc.com/archive/.

Yes, the pages are slow to load because of all the annoying ads. That's entirely by design. You get something for free, but you either get it in small, "wait-for-it" measured doses, or you decide it's worth paying for a "hurry-it-up" digital download collection. They're really meant to be read as they're posted, one per day. If you do it that way, you bookmark the page, and once a day you're in, you're out, you move on. I'm convinced that's entirely the right model for digital comics. Digital floppy singles are not. There's no incentive to buy those unless you're already a fan of them through prior reading, but there's no free bait, no lure to get you hooked. Online is free but slow, not conducive to immersive reading. If the comic you're reading hooks you, and starts reeling you in as a reader, you are a fish on a line, fighting the desire to read these webcomics faster, without annoying ads and waiting for pages to load, so you break down and spend a few bucks for a digitally-downloaded collection, or a few bucks more for a print copy. Or you're fine with the casual "read-a-few-then-call-it-quits-for-now" experience.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2017, 02:32:46 PM by DeCarlo Rules »

irishmoxie

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1216 on: July 27, 2017, 07:35:56 PM »
Haven't been able to get into any webcomics. It feels like they're making it up as they go along. I prefer strong narratives. Like someone writes a page then passes it onto someone else and so on. It's too disjointed for me even when I read a bunch of days at once.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1217 on: July 28, 2017, 12:35:13 AM »
Haven't been able to get into any webcomics. It feels like they're making it up as they go along. I prefer strong narratives. Like someone writes a page then passes it onto someone else and so on. It's too disjointed for me even when I read a bunch of days at once.

That's because the rhythm of the daily (or X-times weekly) strip is a different discipline -- they're really not meant to be read in clumps. Each strip has to deliver something as a single unit, but to the degree that there's continuity there is some overlap where information gets repeated. There's nothing stopping someone from serializing a regular comic book story one-page-a-day, but you don't really get anything out of reading them that way. Regular comic books aren't written that way at all, so they usually read terribly that way, one page a day.

Daily strip continuities can have strong narratives if the story is planned and paced out in advance, but they still have to perform the double duty of delivering something with each daily strip. Because the reading experience is cheap (or free) and casual, the storyline has a chance to gradually draw a reader in and involve them in a more serious way. Regular comic books don't do that because there's no casual reading phase before committing your $3-4 for a 20-page chapter. You just roll the dice based on someone else's reviews and take a gamble, but the same criticism applies to serialized periodical comic books versus original graphic novels that are meant to be read as a complete unit, not in chapter installments. Stories have to be structured somewhat differently to be broken down into regular 20-page chapters where the reader doesn't get to move on to the next chapter until a month later.

Innumerable interviews with creators prove that the "making it up as you go along" principle largely applies to most series fiction (regardless of the frequency of publication) as well as to daily strips. It varies greatly from creator to creator, but many reveal that the story they set out to tell took unexpected turns over time during the process of writing and drawing that were never planned. Letting a story evolve organically during the process of working to a deadline can sometimes produce fortuitous results, and sometimes not. Some creators prefer to hold themselves to a well-organized structure of pre-planned story beats, while others have no more than a very general sense of direction and certain ideas they want to incorporate, and they prefer to let the story unfold during the actual scripting/drawing phase with more spontaneity. We often read anecdotes about characters "writing themselves" or continuities taking twists different that what the author originally had in mind, in the process of creating them.

Historically speaking (ignoring the current popularity of archival hardcover reprints) daily strips were always subjected to an editing process to read better when reprinted in a collected format. Panels were dropped to eliminate redundancies (or sometimes added, or the art was extended in an existing panel) or resized, text captions were dropped or added, dialogue in balloons sometimes altered. That's exactly what Brad Guigar does with his print collections of the EVIL INC. ANNUAL REPORT to make the story flow smoother in collected format.

The problem with serialized periodical comic books (whether in digital or print form) is the question of how do you get someone who's never read the comic to gamble $3-4 on it? If you're familiar with the creator(s') previous body of work, that's one thing, or if the characters are at least familiar to some degree, even if the particular story or creative team isn't. Then there are reviews. But there's still no means of mass exposure to create a desire for the product, a fact compounded when the creative team and/or characters are unfamiliar to the consumer. There's no "try before you buy", and even worse, you have to be looking for the comic (in a comic shop or online) in the first place. Webcomics share the latter problem to the degree of -- how do you discover them in the first place?, but once you do, at least you get to take it for a trial spin. It's a real problem with only about 2000 or so comic book stores in North America, and it's one of the things FCBD and Halloween ComicFest are trying to address, but those "free trial" comics are only available a couple of days a year out of 365, and not every series gets a freebie issue. Archie Comics has digital freebies, which is really helpful in conjunction with a small group of characters that share a "house style" of art and writing. The wider comics market has a real diversity of styles in art, writing and story concepts, but since comics aren't cheap, that makes blind sampling too risky for most consumers.

Dedicated comic shops and the non-returnable direct market came into existence as a haven for the cognoscenti, the experienced and pre-sold buyer, typically a knowledgeable reader/collector with distinct (if narrow) preferences and tastes who was willing to devote significant effort to the hobby. Once the mass-distributed, cheap & disposable comic book withdrew from exposure to the public in the retail establishments of the wider culture, casual readership of comics was decimated and the comics publishing industry changed in ways that made the medium less accessible and less welcoming to newcomers, particularly with the shrinking of the market for all-ages comics, which the comics publishing industry depended on for the seeding of the next generation of comic book consumers. The more typical neophyte entering the world of comics reading/collecting today is likely to need some sort of older or more experienced relative or friend as a mentor/guide if it's going to turn out to be more than a passing interest.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2017, 05:17:47 AM by DeCarlo Rules »

SAGG

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1218 on: July 28, 2017, 06:31:07 PM »
Haven't been able to get into any webcomics. It feels like they're making it up as they go along. I prefer strong narratives. Like someone writes a page then passes it onto someone else and so on. It's too disjointed for me even when I read a bunch of days at once.
Two that you might want to take a look at: Flipside, and Sandra and Woo. Very good, longstanding web comics to me. There's also GPF....

DeCarlo Rules

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1219 on: July 29, 2017, 03:39:16 AM »
Very good, longstanding web comics to me. There's also GPF....

GPF? ???  Link?


As an aside, by FAR the biggest issue that I have with digital comics is that the basic page dimensions of a floppy comic were never designed for reading in a digital format. The default "real estate" of a true digital comic is the landscape-mode page/screen, the same as computer and television monitors. Print format comics are exactly the opposite, using portrait mode "display" for their page composition, so any page composition that stacks tiers of panels taller than they are wide is automatically crap by definition for reading on a monitor display. Tablets can compensate for portrait mode, but any screen display that is smaller diagonally than a standard-format floppy comic is automatically inferior. Desktop monitors can display the portrait mode page if they're at least as tall as a standard floppy, but either there's a lot of wasted screen real estate or the display needs to be 2 pages side by side. Either way the two formats are just plain incompatible for dividing into panels in such a way that they'll still read left-to-right, up-to-down in both the portrait and landscape format unless you adopt a very rigid, unvarying grid of same-sized rectangular panels that can be stacked in different ways for either format. I don't want wasted screen real estate, I don't want a 2-column (2 side-by-side pages) screen, and I don't want to pan, scroll or zoom the page, either -- just a single click or swipe to go on to the next page. The basic default layout of the single page is incompatible between the two mediums of floppy print comic and digital comic. Digital comics' natural analog to print comics is the Sunday newspaper comics section half-page format. There's nothing you can do with older comic book art that's just being scanned in the digital age, but newer comics being created now need to fit a landscape page format before I'll adopt them. In short, my disdain of digital comics is based on the fact that they are virtual "fake" floppy comics -- comics which were never created by design for their native display format, the landscape-mode monitor. Until that changes they'll always be inferior to comics that were designed for the printed page, and the only real use I'll have for digital comics are for those comics I essentially cannot get by any other means: webcomics, English-language scanslations of manga not otherwise available in English, and older public domain comics which would be prohibitively expensive (if you could even find them) to collect as back issues.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2017, 04:47:40 AM by DeCarlo Rules »

rusty

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1220 on: July 29, 2017, 09:51:10 AM »
GPF    http://www.gpf-comics.com


Moving on to the rest of the DC titles and then I'll be almost up to date.  Just the Free Comic Book Day titles and what has accumulated in the last couple of weeks will be left.


Astro City
Everafter
Frostbite
Red Thorn
Unfollow
Flintstones
Future Quest
Scooby Doo (several titles)
Batman '66 Meets Wonder Woman '77


DeCarlo Rules

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1221 on: July 29, 2017, 10:56:23 AM »
GPF    http://www.gpf-comics.com


Moving on to the rest of the DC titles and then I'll be almost up to date.  Just the Free Comic Book Day titles and what has accumulated in the last couple of weeks will be left.


Astro City
Everafter
Frostbite
Red Thorn
Unfollow
Flintstones
Future Quest
Scooby Doo (several titles)
Batman '66 Meets Wonder Woman '77

Thanks Rusty. After all of that, you still have time to read webcomics as well? I suppose it helps that you don't have to work during school vacations. Did you get Batman '66 Meets the Legion?

rusty

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1222 on: July 29, 2017, 12:33:48 PM »
I actually don't read any webcomics at this time, though I'd heard of GPF.  I have purchased a few kickstarter collections of webcomics such as The Meek, Sorcery 101 and Widdershins.


I did buy the Batman '66/Legion comic, but haven't read it yet.  That will be part of the catch up with comics that have come in over the past couple of weeks.  I usually get caught up with comics shortly before going back to school.  I also have a ton of manga volumes and graphic novels/trades that I"m way behind on and won't be caught up on any time soon.

SAGG

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1223 on: July 29, 2017, 08:51:09 PM »

I actually don't read any webcomics at this time, though I'd heard of GPF.  I have purchased a few kickstarter collections of webcomics such as The Meek, Sorcery 101 and Widdershins.


I did buy the Batman '66/Legion comic, but haven't read it yet.  That will be part of the catch up with comics that have come in over the past couple of weeks.  I usually get caught up with comics shortly before going back to school.  I also have a ton of manga volumes and graphic novels/trades that I"m way behind on and won't be caught up on any time soon.
Yes, thank you for providing the GPF link as well. I'm just now getting here.....

DeCarlo Rules

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1224 on: July 30, 2017, 02:39:00 AM »
7/28-7/30:
ARCHIE'S FUNHOUSE BACK-TO-SCHOOL ANNUAL #27
THE SEARCHERS TP VOL 02: APOSTLES OF MERCY
TIME LINCOLN: FATE OF THE UNION TP
TRUMP VS. TIME LINCOLN #1 (one-shot)
VALERIAN: THE COMPLETE COLLECTION HC VOL 01

BettyReggie

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1225 on: July 30, 2017, 09:24:46 AM »
I haven't read any in a while because I'm coloring a lot so today I will read.

BettyReggie

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1226 on: July 31, 2017, 10:11:20 AM »
I read these books for 12 minutes each
Betty & Veronica Jumbo Comics Digest #242 & #247
Jughead - Volume #2
Invincible- Volume #12- Still Standing
Blankets
And I finished Last Look
« Last Edit: August 02, 2017, 09:45:09 AM by BettyReggie »

DeCarlo Rules

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1227 on: August 01, 2017, 06:30:51 PM »
Today, August 1st:
STREET FIGHTER SWIMSUIT SPECIAL 2017 (one-shot)
LOBSTER JOHNSON: MANGEKYO (one-shot)
PROJECT SUPERPOWERS: HERO KILLERS #3
SUPER SECRET ROBOT CLUB #1
GALAKTIKON #1
(of 6)
HILLBILLY #7 - in 3-D! (glasses not included)
NEW GODS SPECIAL #1 (one-shot)
LOONEY TUNES #238
STAR TREK: WAYPOINT #6
(of 6)
PREDATOR HUNTERS #4 (of 5)

BettyReggie

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1228 on: August 02, 2017, 09:44:44 AM »
I'll read in a while.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: What comics have you been reading?
« Reply #1229 on: August 02, 2017, 12:35:57 PM »
GHOST STATION ZERO #1 (of 4)
SLASHER #3
JOHN CARPENTER'S TALES OF SCIENCE FICTION: VAULT #1 (of 3)
QUEEN EMERALDAS HC GN VOL 01


 


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