Quote from: JonInIowaCity on April 24, 2016, 02:45:00 PM
Keep in mind that I enjoy reading old MLJ titles online when checking out my list of favorites:

1. Kevin Keller
2. Cosmo the Merry Martian
3. Dotty and Ditto
4. Jinx (the teen version much more than the 'Lil version)
5. Sam Hill

JINX was a reboot that I really liked. I wish they'd found a way for that character to continue somehow, either in the back of another comic, or online, or even by incorporating Jinx into Riverdale High as a freshman or something. I suppose they still could have her turn up in the New Riverdale, but probably too much time has passed at this point. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sam Hill turn up in New Riverdale at some time, though. I wonder whatever became of Fernando Ruiz' reboot of Cosmo (it was supposed to be its own graphic novel, and shown in the back of NIGHT AT THE COMIC SHOP TPB, along with the reboot of Sam Hill). I think the Sam Hill reboot got released as a digital exclusive. I wonder why they didn't do that with Cosmo, unless it was never completed.

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Quote from: GingerGal on April 24, 2016, 11:39:48 AM
Um, first what is The Riverdale Podcast?

I haven't been reading that long, and have only really read the new stuff but I will try and give a top 5.

1. Kevin Keller
2. Sheila Wu
3. January McAndrews
4. Dilton Doliey
5. Pop Tate

The Riverdale Podcast is a podcast (okay, I'm just assuming you know what that is) where Jonathan Merrifield talks about Archie Comics (and occasionally related things). "Sometimes it's a new Archie comic book, sometimes it's an old Archie comic book", as he says, along with news and new releases from the world of Archie Comics.


I think your list is very interesting. I haven't read all those New Riverdale issues, so I mainly just know the old versions of those characters. I thought it was interesting to see January McAndrews as your 3rd favorite (apart from the main five, I guess) because she's a relatively minor character in the older comics (but I like her).

Yep, I know what a Podcast is. I looked at the link and it looks really cool. I will take a listen later today. I really like January McAndrews because she can time travel which I think is really neat. I also like her lots because she has a lot of faith in Jughead. Kevin Keller is very nice, but also speaks his mind and stands for something which I think is awesome. Sheila Wu is such a fashion plate and tries so hard in the one Archie issue to transform Betty into a girly girl. Dilton seems like a really loyal friend to Jughead next to Archie. He is also super smart which always can help when you are in a jam which Jughead seems to be in a lot. Pop Tate is just so nice to everybody. He just seems to looks at all these kids as his own kids.

I can see you spent some time thinking about why you like these characters, and I like your reasons. In the older comics, I think January was only in 8 stories (there might have been a couple of very minor appearances outside of those 8, where she was a main character, and the co-star of the story along with Jughead). I don't remember if they mentioned this in the new JUGHEAD, but January is the direct descendant of Archie Andrews from the 29th Century. In the old comics she's a Marshal in the Time Police, and that makes her technically Jughead's boss (he's a new recruit, so he's only a Deputy Marshal), but she falls in love with him (and he does with her, as well). It might not be exactly the same in the new comics, I just thought you'd be interested to know. Most people seem to think that in the new comics, Jughead just has a dream about her, and that she's not real. I might have a different opinion on that topic.

I don't remember if they do mention that she is a descedant to Archie. I do remember that the villain they are after is a descendant of Reggie though. In the new Jughead story January goes to kiss Jughead after he saves the day and he disappears at that very moment back to the present time. Convenient for Jughead, huh?

More importantly, it's convenient for Jughead fans who get upset if he seems to have a girlfriend. That was always a source of controversy over the old comics in which January appeared as well, because Jughead appeared in the regular Archie Comics, while January only really appeared in the stories in JUGHEAD'S TIME POLICE, and was never mentioned (by Jughead or anyone else) in stories outside of that. Is she real? Or just a figment of Jughead's overactive imagination? That seems to be what most people think. But if you could really travel through time, you could probably make people think a lot of things they really saw were "just imaginary". Time travel allows you to appear and disappear at will, or go back in time and change something that already happened (because you saw it happen) and prevent it from happening. Maybe even use 29th Century technology to 'magically' erase someone's memory.


Speaking of appearances and characters who appear in one series, while never being referred to in another, have you ever wondered why in JUGHEAD, Riverdale High is taken over by the evil Principal Stanger, while over in ARCHIE, everything at the school seems to be normal and Stanger isn't mentioned? It's almost as if one of those stories was taking place in a different alternate timeline or something...

Jughead having a love flame wouldn't bother me much. Maybe that is because I haven't read that much of his stories not liking girls. Jughead does have a huge imagination which is one reason why I like him so much. It seems like in the new story when January appears Jughead either falls asleep or passes out leaving our imaginations going is this a dream or just an alternate part of the story. I am thinking it is more of a dream because each time the story switches it is when Jughead passes out or goes to sleep.

It might just be me, but I also think Principle Stanger is also all part of a dream or nightmare that Jughead is having about the takeover of Riverdale High. I maybe totally wrong about this thinking, but I have heard that issue #6 will wrap this story line up and I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't all a nightmare and Mr. Weatherbee will be back at Principle by issue #7 and Stanger will be gone.

Quote from: GingerGal on April 24, 2016, 02:57:00 PM
It might just be me, but I also think Principle Stanger is also all part of a dream or nightmare that Jughead is having about the takeover of Riverdale High. I maybe totally wrong about this thinking, but I have heard that issue #6 will wrap this story line up and I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't all a nightmare and Mr. Weatherbee will be back at Principle by issue #7 and Stanger will be gone.

In comics, anything is possible, even (and sometimes especially) the possibility that would seem most unlikely in the real world. It might be all Jughead's nightmare, or maybe Riverdale High DID really get taken over by an evil Principal in one possible timeline... but what if there were someone with the capability of traveling through time, whose mission was to prevent things that weren't supposed to happen (according to the history of the 29th Century) from actually happening, even it that meant that they had to make a few "adjustments" in the time stream to erase certain mistakes? Or it could be just a dream. But if someone actually did hit the reset button on reality, how would you ever know it?

St.Elsewhere ... 

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Quote from: GingerGal on April 24, 2016, 02:57:00 PM
It might just be me, but I also think Principle Stanger is also all part of a dream or nightmare that Jughead is having about the takeover of Riverdale High. I maybe totally wrong about this thinking, but I have heard that issue #6 will wrap this story line up and I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't all a nightmare and Mr. Weatherbee will be back at Principle by issue #7 and Stanger will be gone.

In comics, anything is possible, even (and sometimes especially) the possibility that would seem most unlikely in the real world. It might be all Jughead's nightmare, or maybe Riverdale High DID really get taken over by an evil Principal in one possible timeline... but what if there were someone with the capability of traveling through time, whose mission was to prevent things that weren't supposed to happen (according to the history of the 29th Century) from actually happening, even it that meant that they had to make a few "adjustments" in the time stream to erase certain mistakes? Or it could be just a dream. But if someone actually did hit the reset button on reality, how would you ever know it?

You wouldn't know it. That is what makes comic book reading so great because it leaves so much up to the readers imagination. I tell ya especially with this Jughead story every time I reread it I have new ideas with it. I really can't wait to see how it all comes to an end in the next issue before it moves onto something new.

1. Melody
2. Mrs. Cooper (I love the mother/daughter relationship Mrs Cooper has with Betty)
3. Jason Blossom
4. Coach Clayton
5. Josie

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 24, 2016, 02:56:33 PM
I wonder whatever became of Fernando Ruiz' reboot of Cosmo (it was supposed to be its own graphic novel, and shown in the back of NIGHT AT THE COMIC SHOP TPB, along with the reboot of Sam Hill). I think the Sam Hill reboot got released as a digital exclusive. I wonder why they didn't do that with Cosmo, unless it was never completed.

I always wondered what became of my reboot too.

I was asked to submit a series of Cosmo sketches as part of a proposal to resurrect The Merry Martian. A huge fan of Cosmo, I eagerly jumped into this and I drew a stack of sketches of Cosmo and his supporting cast. These sketches were submitted and as with other situations, I never heard anything again. Later I learned, that proposals and sketches from other artists were being entertained. At that point, it was safe to assume that my pitch had been either rejected or at least was no longer under consideration. Ultimately, no new Cosmo ever came of any of these proposals.

Last year I was told directly, "Our next big thing is going to be Cosmo and that's going to be all you."


Again, nothing.

I also like
1-Jelly Bean -but when in Life With Archie . She was a Hgh School student dating that bad boy who Jughead didn't like.
2-Max Marcus-Archie's student who taking advantage of Archie.
3-Trey -when he & Betty became prom king & queen in Archie #1, I hope he is more issues of Archie.
4-January McAndrews
5-Polly Cooper

Quote from: BettyReggie on April 24, 2016, 10:11:22 PM
I also like
1-Jelly Bean -but when in Life With Archie . She was a Hgh School student dating that bad boy who Jughead didn't like.
2-Max Marcus-Archie's student who taking advantage of Archie.
3-Trey -when he & Betty became prom king & queen in Archie #1, I hope he is more issues of Archie.
4-January McAndrews
5-Polly Cooper

Trey does seem pretty cool. I didn't like though when he was up in Betty's room and was putting his hands on her. She got really mad at him and kicked him out.

Quote from: Fernando Ruiz on April 24, 2016, 06:31:01 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 24, 2016, 02:56:33 PM
I wonder whatever became of Fernando Ruiz' reboot of Cosmo (it was supposed to be its own graphic novel, and shown in the back of NIGHT AT THE COMIC SHOP TPB, along with the reboot of Sam Hill). I think the Sam Hill reboot got released as a digital exclusive. I wonder why they didn't do that with Cosmo, unless it was never completed.

I always wondered what became of my reboot too.

I was asked to submit a series of Cosmo sketches as part of a proposal to resurrect The Merry Martian. A huge fan of Cosmo, I eagerly jumped into this and I drew a stack of sketches of Cosmo and his supporting cast. These sketches were submitted and as with other situations, I never heard anything again. Later I learned, that proposals and sketches from other artists were being entertained. At that point, it was safe to assume that my pitch had been either rejected or at least was no longer under consideration. Ultimately, no new Cosmo ever came of any of these proposals.

Last year I was told directly, "Our next big thing is going to be Cosmo and that's going to be all you."

Again, nothing.

The people making publishing decisions up there sure do change their minds a lot from one week to the next.

I remember when I first got the Night At The Comic Shop TPB and read that in the back (and this was sometime early in 2015, when I would have first read it), I was flipping out that they were showing this new "coming soon" stuff like Cosmo and Sam Hill in the back of the book, until I looked at when the book was first published and noticed that it had been printed four years earlier, in 2011.

I've been starting a little collection of images from unpublished Archie collections, graphic novels, and comic book series, and it's grown to quite a few items.

Quote from: BettyReggie on April 24, 2016, 10:11:22 PM
I also like
1-Jelly Bean -but when in Life With Archie . She was a Hgh School student dating that bad boy who Jughead didn't like.
2-Max Marcus-Archie's student who taking advantage of Archie.
3-Trey -when he & Betty became prom king & queen in Archie #1, I hope he is more issues of Archie.
4-January McAndrews
5-Polly Cooper

Hmm, another vote for January McAndrews...

When I first read The Married Life, I didn't know who Jellybean Jones was (I mean, they tell you who she is, I wasn't confused about that, but I never even knew that Jughead had a sister before reading that). Then a little later when I read the New Look Archie story "Bad Boy Trouble", with Nick St. Clair, I said to myself, "Hey, this guy is just like that guy that Jellybean was dating in The Married Life".

I loved Jellybean as adult in Life With Archie. She worked in Jughead's while Midge was pregnant. And Midge had to stay off her feet. But in the beginning Jellybean was such a bad worker, she just hanged with Davey her boyfriend which Jughead didn't like. He was bad news. But when Midge almost lost the baby JellyBean got her act together & worked hard. I wish JellyBean was all grown up in the digests. They could have had more interesting stories maybe some that just starred her as the main character.

Quote from: BettyReggie on April 25, 2016, 12:51:12 AM
I loved Jellybean as adult in Life With Archie. She worked in Jughead's while Midge was pregnant. And Midge had to stay off her feet. But in the beginning Jellybean was such a bad worker, she just hanged with Davey her boyfriend which Jughead didn't like. He was bad news. But when Midge almost lost the baby JellyBean got her act together & worked hard. I wish JellyBean was all grown up in the digests. They could have had more interesting stories maybe some that just starred her as the main character.

The inclusion of Jellybean as a teenager in The Married Life is kind of important because it's the one thing in there that really tells you exactly when The Married Life is taking place compared to the classic Archie stories: Jellybean is 15 years older, so The Married Life is taking place 15 years after high school. Maybe if LIFE WITH ARCHIE  had been doing better sales-wise there could have been a spinoff with Jellybean in her own series.

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Quote from: BettyReggie on April 25, 2016, 12:51:12 AM
I loved Jellybean as adult in Life With Archie. She worked in Jughead's while Midge was pregnant. And Midge had to stay off her feet. But in the beginning Jellybean was such a bad worker, she just hanged with Davey her boyfriend which Jughead didn't like. He was bad news. But when Midge almost lost the baby JellyBean got her act together & worked hard. I wish JellyBean was all grown up in the digests. They could have had more interesting stories maybe some that just starred her as the main character.

The inclusion of Jellybean as a teenager in The Married Life is kind of important because it's the one thing in there that really tells you exactly when The Married Life is taking place compared to the classic Archie stories: Jellybean is 15 years older, so The Married Life is taking place 15 years after high school. Maybe if LIFE WITH ARCHIE  had been doing better sales-wise there could have been a spinoff with Jellybean in her own series.

Jellybean with her own series?  I'm an Archie freak and I doubt I would buy that.  I think LWA would have had to be moving 20 million copies of each issue to justify Jellybean with her own series.  I think Pop Tate would be more interesting in his own series than Jellybean, LOL.  Maybe if Souphead was in the mix with Jellybean, that would be more compelling.   

Quote from: Fernando Ruiz on April 24, 2016, 06:31:01 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 24, 2016, 02:56:33 PM
I wonder whatever became of Fernando Ruiz' reboot of Cosmo (it was supposed to be its own graphic novel, and shown in the back of NIGHT AT THE COMIC SHOP TPB, along with the reboot of Sam Hill). I think the Sam Hill reboot got released as a digital exclusive. I wonder why they didn't do that with Cosmo, unless it was never completed.

I always wondered what became of my reboot too.

I was asked to submit a series of Cosmo sketches as part of a proposal to resurrect The Merry Martian. A huge fan of Cosmo, I eagerly jumped into this and I drew a stack of sketches of Cosmo and his supporting cast. These sketches were submitted and as with other situations, I never heard anything again. Later I learned, that proposals and sketches from other artists were being entertained. At that point, it was safe to assume that my pitch had been either rejected or at least was no longer under consideration. Ultimately, no new Cosmo ever came of any of these proposals.

Last year I was told directly, "Our next big thing is going to be Cosmo and that's going to be all you."


Again, nothing.

I think there was a Cosmo app game that failed. That couldn't've helped.