Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 28, 2016, 04:00:17 PM

Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 02:54:51 PM

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Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 02:39:24 PM
I appreciate all that, and loved the 50s-60s love triangle stories. But that stuff has not been funny for a long time.

I don't think Betty needs to be perfect. Back in the day, she was not this multi-talented, super-virtuous, loved-by-everybody sweet little girl. Back then she was awesome.
I am not saying I want her to become full-on crazy again, because crazy Betty was entertaining but not exactly relatable. Which is why I believe they tried to make her into a girl-next-door, and ended up creating this perfect being. That's not very relatable either.

Veronica and Betty's rivalry does not have to end. They don't just fight over Archie. They have fought each other for other boys, popularity, modelling gigs, and so many other things. Way I see it, Betty and Veronica are two women fighting for the alpha female position of their little tribe. Archie does not have to be the main reason for everything. In fact, I don't even want Betty to lose ALL interest in Archie. She can still try to steal Archie once in a while to beat her rival Veronica. Or Archie maybe one of the guys in her life.

I want Betty to become her own person, an entertaining and relatable character, whose existence does not revolve around getting Archie's approval.

Hey, you don't have to sell ME on the idea. I'm totally down with it. It pretty much gives Archie nothing left to do, but I'm okay with that. I'd be fine with the company changing its name to B&V Comics. Jughead could continue on virtually unaffected by the whole change in status quo (and maybe that's the only function left for Archie, to become Jughead's clumsy and trouble-prone sidekick and sounding board).

Oh, I know. But since you said you don't understand the ship I thought I would familiarize you with the concept. More importantly, I like to talk about it. 

Well, it wouldn't bother me if what you described actually happened, but that's not the same as saying I think there's any actual chance of it happening, either. I think any of those scenarios are pretty much going to stay confined to fanfics. Maybe if we all live long enough, the characters will all be in public domain and anyone can do anything they want with them.

Dude, there's precious little chance of the things any of us want happening. They don't care about the fans' opinions. Hence the TV show.

Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 04:04:53 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 28, 2016, 04:00:17 PM

Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 02:54:51 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 28, 2016, 02:49:13 PM

Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 02:39:24 PM
I appreciate all that, and loved the 50s-60s love triangle stories. But that stuff has not been funny for a long time.

I don't think Betty needs to be perfect. Back in the day, she was not this multi-talented, super-virtuous, loved-by-everybody sweet little girl. Back then she was awesome.
I am not saying I want her to become full-on crazy again, because crazy Betty was entertaining but not exactly relatable. Which is why I believe they tried to make her into a girl-next-door, and ended up creating this perfect being. That's not very relatable either.

Veronica and Betty's rivalry does not have to end. They don't just fight over Archie. They have fought each other for other boys, popularity, modelling gigs, and so many other things. Way I see it, Betty and Veronica are two women fighting for the alpha female position of their little tribe. Archie does not have to be the main reason for everything. In fact, I don't even want Betty to lose ALL interest in Archie. She can still try to steal Archie once in a while to beat her rival Veronica. Or Archie maybe one of the guys in her life.

I want Betty to become her own person, an entertaining and relatable character, whose existence does not revolve around getting Archie's approval.

Hey, you don't have to sell ME on the idea. I'm totally down with it. It pretty much gives Archie nothing left to do, but I'm okay with that. I'd be fine with the company changing its name to B&V Comics. Jughead could continue on virtually unaffected by the whole change in status quo (and maybe that's the only function left for Archie, to become Jughead's clumsy and trouble-prone sidekick and sounding board).

Oh, I know. But since you said you don't understand the ship I thought I would familiarize you with the concept. More importantly, I like to talk about it. 

Well, it wouldn't bother me if what you described actually happened, but that's not the same as saying I think there's any actual chance of it happening, either. I think any of those scenarios are pretty much going to stay confined to fanfics. Maybe if we all live long enough, the characters will all be in public domain and anyone can do anything they want with them.

Dude, there's precious little chance of the things any of us want happening. They don't care about the fans' opinions. Hence the TV show.

What do you mean? Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa got to write the fanfic HE wanted to, for real! He just had to get a job as a big-time TV writer first. Too bad some Betty/Reggie fan didn't beat him out of the gig first, huh?

I mean, let's face it, if you read the RIVERDALE premise on some internet message board, you'd just go "Wow, this guy's got some pretty twisted fan-fantasies".

Quote from: kassandralove on April 28, 2016, 05:51:57 AM

Thanks for putting up that panel kassandralove, I'm going to buy a copy of the digest with that story in it.
Before I just read this online free but now I have reason to buy it which is good.

Heres another Betty/Reggie fan art that was on the old forum, I forgot who did it

Quote from: daren on April 30, 2016, 03:24:53 AM
Heres another Betty/Reggie fan art that was on the old forum, I forgot who did it

I think the artist is OriginalCeeNote.

I found this on DA.

Betty loves WILBUR!!   

I am so glad you brought this thread back Original Sin! Romantic or platonic Betty/Reggie team ups are the best. 

Quote from: daren on May 01, 2016, 03:55:33 AM
I found this on DA.

WTF? That is one of the most bizarre Archie pages I've seen. I did laugh out loud though.


Here's my contribution that I posted on the old thread.

Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 09:41:40 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 28, 2016, 02:55:47 AM
It's just that I can easily find so many more examples of out-of-context panels for Betty and Jughead.

Not just out-of-context panels. There are plenty of in context panels, stories, and covers for Betty/Jughead. But I guess Betty/Jughead is too easy for us shippers. They are too nice to each other.

That's how I've always felt too. I see Betty and Jug as more of an endgame relationship or as one of those rare platonic (presumably straight) boy/girl relationships. Though I can't imagine things would always be so rosy, since Jughead is a lazy glutton, poor Betty might have to do all the cooking and cleaning. That's why Veronica is a better match, they'd have servants do everything. j/k 

Did they do a remake of that police car story in the '70s?    I swear I remember seeing it by Stan Goldberg?? This version is funnier though.


If any of you guys want to see the whole mask story and you have a Deviant Art account the guy who posted it offers to email the rest of the story to other DA users, here's the page: http://rabbette.deviantart.com/art/The-mask-of-Veronica-505886369, check the comments and you'll see.

Quote from: Thrillho on May 02, 2016, 05:47:19 PM

Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 09:41:40 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 28, 2016, 02:55:47 AM
It's just that I can easily find so many more examples of out-of-context panels for Betty and Jughead.

Not just out-of-context panels. There are plenty of in context panels, stories, and covers for Betty/Jughead. But I guess Betty/Jughead is too easy for us shippers. They are too nice to each other.

That's how I've always felt too. I see Betty and Jug as more of an endgame relationship or as one of those rare platonic (presumably straight) boy/girl relationships. Though I can't imagine things would always be so rosy, since Jughead is a lazy glutton, poor Betty might have to do all the cooking and cleaning. That's why Veronica is a better match, they'd have servants do everything. j/k 

You remind me of a piece of fan art I did  

Wow, somehow it doesn't totally shock me that Reggie has a police record. But Betty? I always knew that Reggie was trouble, but now due to his bad influence Betty has an arrest record (even if they did let them off on probation).

Quote from: Original Sin on May 03, 2016, 08:51:46 AM

Quote from: Thrillho on May 02, 2016, 05:47:19 PM

Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 09:41:40 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 28, 2016, 02:55:47 AM
It's just that I can easily find so many more examples of out-of-context panels for Betty and Jughead.

Not just out-of-context panels. There are plenty of in context panels, stories, and covers for Betty/Jughead. But I guess Betty/Jughead is too easy for us shippers. They are too nice to each other.

That's how I've always felt too. I see Betty and Jug as more of an endgame relationship or as one of those rare platonic (presumably straight) boy/girl relationships. Though I can't imagine things would always be so rosy, since Jughead is a lazy glutton, poor Betty might have to do all the cooking and cleaning. That's why Veronica is a better match, they'd have servants do everything. j/k 

You remind me of a piece of fan art I did  

"Nothing would be left for the kids AGAIN!"   

Quote from: Original Sin on May 03, 2016, 08:51:46 AM

Quote from: Thrillho on May 02, 2016, 05:47:19 PM

Quote from: Original Sin on April 28, 2016, 09:41:40 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on April 28, 2016, 02:55:47 AM
It's just that I can easily find so many more examples of out-of-context panels for Betty and Jughead.

Not just out-of-context panels. There are plenty of in context panels, stories, and covers for Betty/Jughead. But I guess Betty/Jughead is too easy for us shippers. They are too nice to each other.

That's how I've always felt too. I see Betty and Jug as more of an endgame relationship or as one of those rare platonic (presumably straight) boy/girl relationships. Though I can't imagine things would always be so rosy, since Jughead is a lazy glutton, poor Betty might have to do all the cooking and cleaning. That's why Veronica is a better match, they'd have servants do everything. j/k 

You remind me of a piece of fan art I did  

Yes!    Poor Betty looks so defeated. She's totally having an affair right?