QuoteI responded out of courtesy.  You brought my name into a conversation in a manner that didn't seem as merely rhetorical or as a "for instance" and included me as a reference point.

Oh yeah, after you tried mocking me multiple times with your 90 year old grandma tier wit.  You sure were on a high road then.      I referenced you because of your massive and completely transparent butt hurt.  And now that you're forced to respond to my points without your attempts at snide one liners, you're pretending to not know what we're talking about.  Wew.   

QuoteIt is absolutely politicall fueled criminality, I don't think I said it wasn't.  I was more thinking along the lines that if Milo spoke to the hundred or so attendees at his talk, this never would have made news or caused the disruption to businesses and the community nearby. I was more advocating free speech and disparaging the way some social media devotees turned the whole scenario into a circus.

He didn't get a chance to talk because your fellow "tolerant" Commiefornians tried to kill him.  One of them was a 40 something year old man that worked for the school, the one who almost bludgeoned someone to death.  This happened because of the political climate the left has fostered in your state.  Notice how students at Indiana University aren't trying to kill people.  This was the left, and it was exacerbated even more by how absurdly Marxist California is with its indoctrination of people.

Oh boy, no more sarcasm.  Well, I guess I made my point well enough if you have to actually respond now.

QuoteI completely understand how the state is perceived at least through my reading and viewing of national news.

The national news is pretty much owned by the left at this point to the level where it's beyond self-parody.  Remember this one that was plastered all over the media?



If you're relying on the national news for what people think about California, than surely you are completely in the dark.

QuoteI'm just wondering why the need for such a gross generalization of a populace?

Because it's true, and pointing out the truth makes you uncomfrotable for some reason.  If you have an issue with me ripping on Commiefornia, you may as well be defending Sweden or something.  The state is that far off the reservation.

QuoteI'm not sure I understand how California, NY, TX. FL, PA, etc. would have harmed the country as a whole through policies that they as individual States have every right to enact?

This is where the unawareness comes into play.  California is already harming the rest of the country through policies that your state shouldn't have the right to enact in defiance of the federal government.  Your pro-illegal immigration stance has lead to the cartel backed drug trade and gang violence being exported to the rest of the states.  That's a fact.  People have died and are dying over your state's absurd white guilt nonsense.

QuoteAs for the whole Milo thing, my understanding is he was going to speak in front of 100 or so students, but social media exploded with that news and everybody rushed in to throw fuel on the fire.  Nothing of any consequence would have happened if not for "SnapFace" or whatever the relevant, informed portion of the public is into as a social media source that motivated hundreds or even thousands of others to get involved in a measure of protest.

First, you're ignoring the last post I made.  The most violent person in that "protest" (which is code for riot in California now I guess) was an employee of the school.  Explain that one.  You're also referring to it as a protest.  What part of peaceful protest involves bashing in windows of businesses and attacking ATM machines?  What part of protest involves a liberal man pepper spraying a conservative woman in the face over politics?  What part of a protest involves clubbing people with pipes?  Come on, Steve, tell me how that's a "protest" and not just political fueled criminality.  Why should I ever trust the left again when even people like you have to deflect and defend that kind of crap?

And the fact social media was involved is not a counter-point of any kind.  These were your citizens, your students, these were liberals who got away with almost killing people and destroying property because places like Berkely place their BS Marxist hypocrisy over other people's rights now.

I've followed Milo for a long time now.  His main shtick is criticizing political correctness and social justice warriors in a funny and mocking way.  He's not calling for violent over throw of the government like the left is right now every day, even with millionaire celebrities like Sarah Silverman.  His shtick is pretty freaking tame honestly.  So why does the left want to kill him and is still advocating for violence against this flamboyant man?  Why did he have to hire a security detail of ex-marines that whisked him out of a building at a California university becuase rioters broke into the building with the intent of physically attacking him? 

It's because he's unabashedly queer, and the fact he doesn't agree with leftist garbage anymore like a lot of us do means he should be killed I guess.  The left treats minorities like slaves.  No independent thought allowed.  You have to be a one issue voter and suck up to the left on every ridiculous insane whim they have like let's say placing the biggest institutional killers of LGBT on the face of the Earth on a pedestal free from any kind of criticism.  No thanks.

It's a joke. The left is a joke right now, and the echo chamber it created in which anyone who disagrees is cast as a monster even to the point a gay ethnic Jew is called a "Nazi" is making it unhinged.  The left is going to continue to go down in flames if people don't reign in the grassroots they allowed to get radicalized to this point.  California is certainly ground zero for that right now.  So yeah, California deserves its fair share of blame.  People on the left also referred to us as "fly over country" for 8 years in favor of your state and the like minded tech industry that funds your politicians.  Of course we don't like you anymore.  We're not stupid.

Quote from: Ottawagrant on February 09, 2017, 11:35:47 AM
One time in the store, where I used to purchase Archie digests, I had to take a 'Sonic' book to get the deal of 3 digests for $10. As the digests sell in Canada for $6.99, taking a 3rd book that I didn't want still paid off. I will say one thing for the sonic books, the art is good, but not my taste in comics. It's a good example of a book that people complain about, but is a good seller for the publisher. I do agree that Archie losing this source of revenue is going to hurt. I guess we'll have to see if Archie Publications give the title the 'dreaded vote of confidence'. One has to wonder if the reboot of Archie titles was not just a big ploy to give them time to make the company look attractive to a potential buyer. It would be interesting to see what a Warner Bros. or Disney would do with it.

One of the most annoying things about Archie Comics in recent years is how untransparent they are.  A lot of signs point to the company not performing well, but they don't have to let us know because they have no stockholders to answer to.  So they obfuscate all bad news.  It's pretty annoying, so we probably won't know what's really going on for a while.

About selling the company.  Current management has certainly deteriorated this company's value considerably over its reign, like ridiculously deteriorated from the huge publishing operation it once was.  If they wanted to sell it for a decent amount of money, they should have probably done so like right after Jon Goldwater inherited his stake.  So I'd say other companies jumping at the chance to buy it are probably somewhat diminished now.

Time for an update!   

About Commiefornia being an ideological dystopia, there was an update about the UC Berkeley riot at Milo's speech.  Remember when I mentioned the Milo fan who was almost beaten to death and left in the street to die.  Well, when that happened, information was circulated online that the scumbag who did that beating was actually an employee of UC Berkeley, namely because he bragged about it online.  That has now been backed up by an independent news source that also revealed this is being investigated by the FBI:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/uc-berkeley-thug-beat-conservative-bragged-online-university-staff-member/

Explain this one, guys.  How is this school system redeemable?  Why in the blue hell should this crappy school in this whackjob state receive federal funds?

One thing I thought could really level the company was Sega pulling its license for Sonic comics.  Whatever you think of them, they have a very solid fanbase of video game nerds and people who want furry/anthro comics.  So then this news/rumor mill bit ended up on multiple websites:

https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/01/archie-sonic-comics-very-likely-cancelled/

Supposedly, there was an update from Archie saying the Sonic comics were only delayed until April.  However, as far as I can tell, those are only solicitations for a single wave of new issues.  The telling fact is you still can't subscribe to Sonic comics on Archie's website.  If there wasn't a licensing problem, why would they remove the option to subscribe?  Seems like a really good way to cut off future revenue streams.  The subscriptions have been described as "temporarily unavailable."  It's currently February, unlike when that article was first published.  Seems like a really long time to me.  You can also still subscribe to titles that had even longer delays, so that's not an explanation that makes sense.  As we know, Archie doesn't like to talk about titles that are on the chopping block at all.  Look at titles like New Crusaders who we were told would come back.

Honestly, as much as people here like the Riverdale gang comics, I don't know if Archie will be able to survive financially without those titles.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on February 06, 2017, 01:05:26 AM

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on February 05, 2017, 10:59:19 PM
^ The sad thing is that the liberals do not care. In fact they were applauding what happened at Berkeley. Those terrorists- because that's what they are- destroyed property, burned things, beat people up all in the name of "free speech and love" and no one batted an eye. Even the police did nothing to stop the destruction. Unbelievable. This really should have been a wake up call for the left side, but nope, they are so blind with their hatred they don't want to see.

A wake up call for who? If the police did nothing, does that imply that they're all liberal terrorists too, at least passively? Or maybe they needed to follow orders from the Police Commissioner or something -- which I guess makes him a suspect as a pawn of the left wing. But possibly it was a tense situation where if the police took action, they risked touching off a powder keg of escalating violence. There have always been radical extremists, but they're not conscripts in some sort of Liberal Army that can be court-martialed. They're acting on their own, not following some sinister liberal conspiracy master plan. Maybe they'll become the new cliche comic book villains, replacing the 'crazy as a bag of cats' right-wing conservative nutcases. It could happen. I'm sure I've probably already read a dozen stories with radical eco-terrorists, so it probably will. And yes, you will have some people who would never act on it, but will cheer them on, just like there were people saying "Nuke Iraq!" after 9/11.

I guess it's probably just easier to divide all people into a Red Team and a Blue Team, and make sure they always wear their uniforms so we can all tell each other apart and know who's the enemy. And if someone refuses to wear the uniform and show team spirit, then they must be a player for the opposite team, so you know you can't trust them. That's just a mental exercise in visualization, but what really happens is that people latch onto a word for identifying the enemy, and then proceed to start rubber-stamping everyone with one name or the other (purely for the purposes of keeping the Bad Guys sorted out). If you're doing it, then you can guarantee someone else is doing it to you. We don't need no stinking badges. It is amazingly difficult to be a terrorist or even a radical without an ideology. Even an anarchist has an implied ideology, whether he'll admit to it or not. Just accept the fact that the minute you start sorting people into lists of USes and THEMs, you become part of the problem, not part of the solution. Is it any wonder I hate politics?

True story: The Pledge of Allegiance was changed in the 1950s to include the words "One nation, under God" in the hopes that it would help root out Communists in our midst. Because it's a well known fact that all Communists are Atheists, and thus it was assumed the reverse also applied. I'm not really sure if the intended effect was more along the lines of spontaneous human combustion or just a bad actor being dumbstruck in the middle of a performance.

Oh boy, a trademark DeCarlo Rules post that says so much yet absolutely nothing at the same time.  Thanks for following through when I criticized you for that kind of thing earlier in the thread.   

QuoteBut possibly it was a tense situation where if the police took action, they risked touching off a powder keg of escalating violence.

It was already an exploded powder keg of escalating violence.  The police did nothing to protect those people and businesses that were attacked.  People like you are part of the problem honestly.  You're presented with evidence of wrong doing by your side and all you can do is deflect, deflect, deflect, and then fall back on some cliche about anyone complaining being a partisan.  What a joke.  I've witnessed the left completely destroy itself in about 5 years time, and yet no one wants to address the problem.  Kids have been brain washed to the point they think that it's okay to physically attack people over perceived social justice issues, and all the left can do is ignore the problem like nothing happened.  It's beyond absurd at this point.  You talk about teams, but if anyone on the right did anything even approaching this it would be like World War III in the media.  Yet, you don't perceive any bias.   

Quote from: Mr.Lodge on February 05, 2017, 02:49:17 PM
Is this still being published or has it gone quietly into that long goodnight? 

That's the charm of Archie Comics these days.  You don't know what's canceled because everything is delayed when it's not canceled.  It's fun if you like mysteries.   

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on February 03, 2017, 06:10:39 PM
We simply cannot trust in the media anymore. Bunch of liars.

Absolutely.

About California being a festering communist crap hole, recently at UC Berkely, liberal protestors tried to murder people at a speech by Milo Yiannopoulos, an extremely gay ethnic Jew, because SHOCKER he has conservative views and criticizes political correctness.  For that they labeled him a Nazi and attacked his speech by starting a riot, destroying their student union, burning down part of the campus, pepper spraying a woman wearing a Trump hat in the face and beating a supporter of Milo's in the head with a pipe so badly he almost died on the street.  Milo had to be rushed out the building because people broke into it with the intent to kill him.  The mayor of Berkeley told the police to stand down and cried about Milo being a bad guy during the riot on Twitter.  The police did nothing to stop the riot.

California is so incredibly biased that you can't be queer and disagree with liberals anymore or Californians will try to murder you.  This is what most people outside the state now see when they think of California:



So I ask you SAGG and SteveintheCity, why should I kiss your state's ass when treating people who disagree with the left like that is now common place?  Why do you have no awareness about how your state is perceived by outsiders?  That's not an isolated incident, there's plenty more examples over the course of the past year to choose from (btw, expecting silence here, especially from StevieintheCity).

Quote from: DakotaArchieFan on February 01, 2017, 11:32:25 AM
Not sure how much any of you watch TV ratings, but normal CW ratings are way lower than the other networks.  A .5 in the 18-49 rating is borderline but could be renewable for them.  The same website linked on the original post tracks their own renew/cancel predictions based off a formula that's been fairly accurate. So those really interested can check their site each week (usually on Tuesday they update their renew/cancel posts).

It's going to go lower after the premier.  Premieres perform better than subsequent episodes.  From what I've heard, this is the kind of ratings other premiers for CW pulled in that were never renewed for a second season.

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on February 01, 2017, 01:32:25 PM
Regardless of if you like President Trump or not, the fact of the matter is he is now the President for the next 4 (or maybe 8?) years. How about supporting him and the country? Because all the rioting and whining from the liberals is only hurting the country. All the hate that the liberals said was coming from Trump and his supporters, is actually coming from the left side. They have shown such tremendous hate and ignorance and stubbornness and all that is only dividing the country more than it already is. Let's come together as a country again, put on our big-boy pants and support America instead of crying and wearing safety pins and other nonsense. My two cents. I don't mean to be mean but it is annoying watching all the constant whining from the ones who lost. Anyway, let's get back to Kmart 

Absolutely.  Trump supporters can't even go to places like L.A. without being physically attacked, and when they were attacked, often times on video, the absurdly non-objective in the tank media decided not to cover it.  How is anyone supposed to respect the left when they act like that and have liars in the news protecting them?  Heck, the riot at the Chicago Trump rally was planned by Democratic operatives who admitted it on video.  The video was released to the media, and still jokers like CNN refused to cover it.  Then a few slime balls torture someone they say is a Trump supporter on video, and after CNN is forced to cover it because it went viral, Don Lemon says they aren't evil and suggests they are probably good kids.  XD

It's what happens when you feed stupid kids Marxist revolutionary rhetoric uniornically.  They start thinking violence that is politically motivated is acceptable.  The ends justify the means to them, and people that disagree are the enemy.  That's where we are with the left is right now. The sad thing is the politicians, the grass roots and even average card carrying Democrats, of which I used to be one (but never again), will never ever say anything against their own kind ever.  They can attack people, torture them, demean people, discriminate, act like adult babies throwing tantrums, and never will they ever be policed by their own people or held responsible for their actions.

As for Steve so upset I poked fun at California, the left and the Democrats didn't give a rat's ass about the Rust Belt for the past 30 years.  Their trade policies destroyed the place and never once did I hear any of them ever admit there was a problem or say anything in favor of the workers who lost their factories to globalization.  They probably care more about the Syrian refugees who took place in gang rape attacks in places like Cologne, Germany than they do about our own citizens who live outside their communities.  So yeah, good luck ever getting our votes back again.  The fact you don't care about us was made explicitly clear due to your reaction to the election results.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on January 31, 2017, 11:55:30 PM
I guess I'm supposed to feel insulted, but that would be predicated on me actually caring what you think.

Ooooh... let's play Internet Fight Club!

Let's go over this again maybe.  Trump just won one of the most significant electoral landslides in history when all the know-it-alls said it was impossible, and you just said him getting re-elected was impossible because of reasons I guess.  Then I said you need to work on your critical thinking because that's an illogical conclusion, and you reply that's an insult, with no retort to my point at all.

If you want an insult.  Here's a good one.  Just because you routinely type walls of endless text here does not mean you're intelligent.  It's actually pretty annoying, and you barely if ever have a good point to make because you're a pretentious blowhard.      

QuoteExactly what party is that?  Hopefully it's one with a proper stock of full to the brim red Solo cups. How is it you enjoy excoriating or bearing such malice towards large swaths of people? You must be from South Dakota.

More witless butt hurt.    Yes, you've made me feel so bad about being raycis against commiefornians, and I'm totally not laughing about how mad you are right now.      I'll leave you to your autistic lolcow K-Mart thread now.   

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on January 31, 2017, 08:56:55 PM
Well, it's quite possible (you might even say likely) that ARCHIE COMIC PUBLICATIONS won't exist in eight years. Or in four, which is pretty much what I meant by "post-New Riverdale". But where did I say it would? I highly doubt that would mean that Archie stories would cease to be printed by someone (probably not in the floppy comics format...). I'm okay with that idea.

PS - You think New Riverdale comics might last up to EIGHT years before putting ACP out of business?! That's almost as unlikely as Trump being re-elected.

Current management has depreciated the value of the product so much that I honestly don't even see a strong motive for another company to print Archie Comics honestly.  A ton of the digests go unsold from what I've heard, and a majority of that rack space isn't owned by nerds who sell comic books for a living.

QuotePS - You think New Riverdale comics might last up to EIGHT years before putting ACP out of business?!

Strawman based on nothing I said.

QuoteThat's almost as unlikely as Trump being re-elected.

Yeah, just as unlikely as him getting elected with the news propaganda outlets calling him literally Hitler for a year and pollsters over-sampling Democrats by absurd amounts to always put Hillary Clinton ahead.  Last three presidents got re-elected, and Democrats are so insanely stupid they decided to light cars on fire the first day of his presidency pretty much invalidating all of their arguments to background noise hysterics.  If you think it's really unlikely, I think you need to work harder on your critical thinking.

Quote from: SAGG on January 31, 2017, 06:44:31 AM
You must be a Trump Republican, then. It's okay, Trumpian.: These things go on in cycles. Your party will overreach, and you'll be back on the outside. Enjoy it--for now...

You have a problem with reading comprehension?  I said I wasn't a Republican.  You must feel really confused right now.      I don't think people on the left realize how much they poisoned their own party.  They let their grass roots radicalize to the point they are basically shark repellant to voters.  The fall out from that SJW, BLM, terrorists are the real victims, etc. stupidity isn't going be forgotten anytime soon, and they are still doubling down on it like the election never happened. Don't worry, I'm sure Nate Silver can lie about more polling data to make you feel better about it in the meantime.  Maybe he can make the Cubs win another World Series too.   

QuoteIndeed... much like the comic book marketplace. We can look forward to the post-New Riverdale cycle of Archie by the time Trump leaves the Oval Office.

Archie Comics won't exist in eight years.      

QuoteBefore you generally blame the Dems for NAFTA, don't forget that the Republicans share the blame for it, and some of them are just as "elitist". The Dems don't have the copyright on it. And President Obama did what he could, while the Republicans sat on their hands and did nothing, period, except be obstructionist. You see what you want to see, don't you, so it's pointless to take up this issue with you. DR's right. Let's get back to Sears/Kmart on this thread, and agree to disagree. Your call...

I'm not a Republican or a conservative.  You don't understand how out of touch the left is with people these days, so you're still going back to your binaries.  I don't think you realize what happened in the election at all honestly. 

As for NAFTA, it was the Clinton administration's fault, and people were still arrogant enough to put one of the policy wonks behind stealing everyone's jobs on the ballot.  You got the result unrestrained arrogance engenders. 

The left definitely has a market on elitism right now.  You are now represented by Marxist lunatics shouting at people about "white privilege."  The left is dead at this point.  What's left is some bizarre religion about virtue signalling to people on social media and places like California that are effectively a foreign country that thinks it will win back the people by having millionaire actors shout at them on television.   

Obama didn't do jack.  He was an ineffectual coward.  Hell, his second term was pretty much one long lame duck session because he was hiding out in the White House hiding from congress like a wimp or outside the country half the time.  You can blame that on obstructionists, but the truth is he was an ideological hack with no people skills who couldn't work with a congress from an opposite party like other presidents like Clinton or Reagan did.  Also ISIS loves the guy considering his foreign policy decisions gave it the power vacuum to exist.

QuoteHas California not been wildly progressive in their politics the last few decades?  Holy Cow.  I hate everyone in Connecticut, by the way.  They just don't look like proper Americans to me.  They smirk sometimes in photos. Connecticut is full of communist sympathizers, by my account. They're probably all commies. Every last one of them. North Carolina is also on my list, as is Maryland.  I'm just getting warmed up. South Dakota better hope I don't look your way!

How are you enjoying having your party's teeth kicked down its throat in an electoral landslide?      I'm loving it.      

Quote from: SAGG on January 30, 2017, 05:31:06 PM
So I should invest in a state where they don't think much of me, AC? No thank you. I'll go where I'm wanted. There are plenty (more) of rich Republicans that can do just that in Kansas and other deep-red states. Why don't they get involved? Let them prove that all this tax-cutting on the rich works, the same for investing in America. So far, I haven't seen it doing too much. Yeah, some states like Florida and Texas don't pay state income taxes, but don't think for a second they don't bite you in the butt somewhere else. They WILL get their revenue. It's a scam for the demagogues...

I don't think you understand what I was saying.  For eight years, President Obama talked about the tech industry being the future of American employment to replace previous kinds of employment, and the tech industry was by and far his biggest supporters and campaign contributors.  The tech industry does indeed make a pile of money, and it has also never left one area of California.  The people that control it talk about the rest of America like this, explaining why they don't leave California:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/08/tech-company-founder-middle-america-is-a-shthole-filled-with-stupid-people/

Meanwhile under the leadership of previous administrations like Obama's, all gainful employment left everywhere else that isn't on a coast due to things like NAFTA and globalization redistributing that work to other countries who can pay workers peanuts.  So yeah, bragging that California balanced it's budget by taxing rich people unlike those terrible plains states that have no income shows a certain lack of self awareness that is pretty much a Californian trait imo. 

Californians also reacted to a bunch of blue states in Middle America rebelling against your party, not by asking why it happened, but by crying that the electoral college should be illegalized so California can determine every future election while at the same time calling everyone that lives outside California terrible bigoted racists even though they elected the African American spineless man of inaction twice.  So no, I don't have a problem with saying bad things about California.  Everyone that doesn't live on a coast hates the state's guts for very good reasons.