...In the example I,m giving  , there is no other version avallable of the SSatuurday paper but the : Early Sunday : version .
  I,ll say more later but I.m rushed for postinng time now .

...Thank you .

I haven,t been bacck here for a while , I know .
  For one , I REALLY have tended to have difficulty getting enough Internet time - and , I have REALLY been having health issues   (as [size=78%]well as mucho financial/possessions ones[/size] ) - And , I have bought very few comics   , and quite few Archiees - Partly I,ve just gotten out of the habit - Here in San Francisco now there is only one cmic store I know how to get to easily and they are fairly small-scale - I think they give the New Riverdale 32s a fair play , in fact but I have never bought any 32s of BV , Jug , or Reg - I have rather enjoyed the issues I,ve bought of the Archie 32 , but my money/transportation issues and maybe feeling : it,s a new era : and sort of thinking : Well , mmaybe I,ll train myself to buy or library0=-read something so obviously designed for book collection : about the new Archie -=- Oh , and there,s my health issues . Too .
  It,s my birthday today .
  Did this site shut down AGAIN in the months since I was last here ? (Actually , as far as my  degree of involvement with this site goes , in my years coming here I think I,ve had a tendency to come here and put up a lot of posts , maybbe try to cover up the entire : Recent Topics : column - but then not come back for a long time .
  I am actually writing this from a hospital , where I,ve been essentially the last week getting treated for an effect of my Congestive Heart Failure (CGF) - that leads me to massively baloon waterweight , from a normal 270s pounds (I am not a slim person ) , 5, 9: ,I was again up to 335 pounds this time - it had happened before , 325-ish then   and took much Lazik , making me massively - Well , you know .
  I also wal=lk using a crutch , and , wrse , hobble along really slowly/tending t get tired due to the CHF   . I have only 7&1/2 toes due to diabetic infections a couple years back . I have COPD of the lungs , too , making (Renal kidney failure too) me at times , cough a great deal .
  I could talk some about my financial problems too .
  If I am in this hospital tonight , oddly enough , their TV system may not get the CW station in San Francisco , it seems it gets the : big : broadcast and a lotta cable stations but not these : second division : broadcast stations !

[size=78%]...Your second paragraph reflects what I recall and Archie person saying as the  reason for keeping them perpetual sophomores , that at that level they,re a bit far fromsenior year and : We have to get ready to move on : looming ![/size]
[/size][size=78%]  Did you say something about drivers, liscence because I said what I said in my comment about ages of consent ?[/size]
[/size][size=78%]  My point was there , IIRC , various US states (and assuming some non-American ,, or even non-: Five is : countries (US , Britain , Canada , Australia , New Zealand) readers , I needed t explain US laws) have consent laws - =that vary - Thiis is a sensitive topic to discuss , so I was going to walk carefully - As I said , I think many US states have a : partial : age of consent more or less?? universally at 16 but full AOC is at 18 .[/size][/size][size=78%]









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Seems doubtful they could be sophomores, or younger than 16. Archie, Reggie, Veronica and Betty all have some kind of driver's license -- possibly a provisional/restricted license, but not a learner's permit, which would require they be accompanied by an adult with a valid license while they're behind the wheel. Most states won't issue even a restricted license until age 16, and NO state will issue a full license at less than 16. And a restricted license would usually require them not to be on the road past a certain time (could be anywhere from 9 pm to midnight, depending on the state), and/or require them not to carry any more than one or two passengers.

Nope. Juniors in high school is really the only thing that works without significant complications of some sort. They have mobility and greater freedom than they did just a year or so earlier, but they don't have to worry about college or career plans for next fall.

...If there are K-Marts or Sears in San Francisco proper or nearby , I,m not aware  of them . When I still lived in Santa Cruz , there was a K-Mart in near-by-bus Watsonville...that I actually found sold Archie digests  !!!!!!!!!!!
  When  I was young , in Westchester County , New York , we had a Sears catalog store in Mount Kisco , near us , and I loved the Christmas Wish Book loads   . There was also a big , department store-type , Sears in White Plains , which I think may have been described as : the biggest Sears : - where ? at that time , . The biggest west of the Misisippi ? That seems unlikely .
  The biggeest in a 13 Colonies/Eastern Seaboard state ? Northeastern stae ? Midatlantic state ?
  We didn,t have K-Mart where we grew  up , primarily I feel because we had a similar chain called Caldor,s , which rather took up that slice of the market .
  I guess Caldors, was a touch more genteel/perhaps : upscale : (I recently read about it that it was described at the time as - The Macy,s of discount stores ? Remember , this is the 60s and 70s we,re talking about .
  I guess it tended to be less spread out than Wal-Mart - I think of Wal-Mart as being more in the spread-out , flat , Midwest while we were n the closer together , more hilly Northeastern states . Might Caldors, have only been in NY Stata and Connecticut ?
  I later found out that K-Mart had these massive snack bars/junk food stands - Caldors, just had little stand-up junk food stands , not selling anything moe elaborate than maybe what was in those rotating spears warmers that they sold pretels from , maybe hot dogs - Does that mean they did not have grills on the stands , say , or voilers ?
  Maybe ?

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Are you a plant from ACP?

Do you mean Archie Comics? No, I don't think they'd hire me at all! I don't think they'd like me very much. I was trying to get them to give me a copy of an unaired Archie cartoon back from 2013 (I looooooveeee the Archie cartoons!) and they threatened to turn off their DMs   


That would be really cool, though!

...This last nite , I watched , on TCM: (I paid the most attention to #2 - For #1 , which I saw many years ago when it was current when my fathher took me , I was rather distracted by this very device I,m using now . I did pay a fair amount of attention for #3  , too.)
  (1) Sam Peckinpah,s THE GETAWAY .
  (2) A very popular sentimental 1940s World War II picture  MRS. MINIVER .
  (3) A US World War II propaganda/rallying people short documentary , THE NEGRO SOLDIER .
  (Note: That was its title . : Negro : was the correct/polite phrase for persons of Sub-Saharan African descent about 55-70 years back . : Correct : usages , even in vernacular , change .)

...I am fascinated to see discussion of the characters, age AND Archies lyrics here !!!!!!!!!!!
  However , my posting circumstances mean that I haven,t read this whole line , so excuse me if I repeat ...
  (1) Re: the gang[size=78%],s age and HS years , I came into the statement that they were perpetual ophomores fairly recently...AND , only becoming aware of the Archie website giving facts about the characters this century I think,,,And I do recall initially seeing a sttement there that Archie was 16/17 (and I guess the other males were...16 , with no specification that they might be , ever , 17 ? To maintain Arch,s apha dog status ?[/size] ) while B&V were stated to be 15/16 , I am sure of that , as if maintaining the custom that men go out with women who are younger than them - The , later on , the site,s official statement was that BV were 16...As if , bluntly , to keep them at least within the : younger end : of the age of consent as it tends to be understood in the U.S. 
(Technical note: US ages of consent , decided on a state-by-state basis - tend - I think , anyway - to allow : relations/,
marriage with someone who is also young or has gotten consent/from the person,s parent - kind of : trining driver : status - at 16 with I guess absolute full age of consent universally , nationwide ,  starting at 18 .)
(2( Archies lyrics ? Yeah , try listening to : Archie,s Party : sometime   !
  Or , : Feelin; So Good SKOOBY DOO : indeed , if you want to assume that the gang are , religiously , Catholics or (Arguably ?) other more : small-o orthodox/high church : Christian denominations - Anglican/Episcopalian , big-O Orthodox  - rather than  the I guess?? evangelical Christianity I suppose the Spire titles woul put them in the pew   of !

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...Obviously you;re referencing your local station of that network - Where are you ?








urs & 24 Minutes & 27 Seconds till tomorrow then Riverdale which will be on channel 11 on January 26 2017 at 9 pm

...I,ll say that she timed her passing : like a true star : - she didn,t get caught up in that rush at the end of year of celebrities dying then !!!!!!!!!!  
(Though for someone comparable , it,s possible hat I might have more affection for Debbie Reynolds anywat - at last against the MTM Show , which I sort of got overexposed to back in its original run (My mother lved it) , back in the 70s . 

....Well , no , the particular example , I,m especially pointing to here (though there are others) , in their : Early Saturday : edition , gives you a full (three sections) daily-style Saturday pape PLUS the Sunday comics and the ad sections  , IIRC all for the same price as the Mon-Fri daily paper . If you buy the Sunday , you,ll get a completely diifferent , and longer , non-comics Sunday paper , plus the same comics and (I guess) the same ads again (Plus Parade magazine in the Sunday but not the Satuday ? Not sure ,) .


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...Briefly , a lot of newspapers out here on the West Coast publish , on Saturdays , an " early Sunday " edition ~ billed as that ~ with Saturday's newspaper , but the Sunday comics and ad supplements , or something like that ~ and , again , billed as " Early Sunday " .
  An attempt by the bosses to get around paying their people for two days , just one instead on the petense that " It's just two Sunday editions " ? Then no doubt they'd say it was " being lean & mean " and " doing more with less " (My parents were both newspaper reporters .)...

I didn't know any papers "doubled up" on the comics they printed, but it's probably just a general cost cutting measure as the publisher determined the majority of customers don't buy the paper both days.  I don't know the royalty or payment rules, but I suspect the paper pays for using one comic per calendar date(as I believe you do as well). I'm an example of a customer not contributing to the coffers as I can't justify buying a Sunday paper and haven't in years, but maybe I'd buy the later Saturday(advance Sunday) edition to get the ads, inserts, and whatnot.

Sounds to me like the "Early Sunday" edition of the paper is just Saturday's news, with the addition of some the supplements and advertising content that would normally appear in the weekly Sunday edition. Some people don't get the daily paper, and only get the Sunday edition, and I suppose that the subscribers would probably get both the daily and Sunday editions, but not the "Early Sunday" edition, so it sounds like they're just trying to sell a few more copies of Saturday's newspaper by including some of the weekly features (like the comics section) that would usually appear on Sunday. I doubt it has anything to do with trying to squeeze extra work out of their employees, as it wouldn't appear that there was anything much content-wise appearing in the Early Sunday edition, that didn't also appear in the regular daily Saturday editon or the weekly Sunday edition. Besides which, the people who print and deliver the papers aren't salaried, they're hourly employees, so they get paid for the time they worked. Unless there were some sort of late-breaking story on Saturday after the regular daily edition had been sent to the printers, there wouldn't be any reporters, writers, photographers or editors putting in extra hours.

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Quote from: steveinthecity on September 11, 2016, 02:25:52 AM

Quote from: ASS-P on June 11, 2016, 05:25:11 PM
...Briefly , a lot of newspapers out here on the West Coast publish , on Saturdays , an " early Sunday " edition ~ billed as that ~ with Saturday's newspaper , but the Sunday comics and ad supplements , or something like that ~ and , again , billed as " Early Sunday " .
  An attempt by the bosses to get around paying their people for two days , just one instead on the petense that " It's just two Sunday editions " ? Then no doubt they'd say it was " being lean & mean " and " doing more with less " (My parents were both newspaper reporters .)...

I didn't know any papers "doubled up" on the comics they printed, but it's probably just a general cost cutting measure as the publisher determined the majority of customers don't buy the paper both days.  I don't know the royalty or payment rules, but I suspect the paper pays for using one comic per calendar date(as I believe you do as well). I'm an example of a customer not contributing to the coffers as I can't justify buying a Sunday paper and haven't in years, but maybe I'd buy the later Saturday(advance Sunday) edition to get the ads, inserts, and whatnot.

Sounds to me like the "Early Sunday" edition of the paper is just Saturday's news, with the addition of some the supplements and advertising content that would normally appear in the weekly Sunday edition. Some people don't get the daily paper, and only get the Sunday edition, and I suppose that the subscribers would probably get both the daily and Sunday editions, but not the "Early Sunday" edition, so it sounds like they're just trying to sell a few more copies of Saturday's newspaper by including some of the weekly features (like the comics section) that would usually appear on Sunday. I doubt it has anything to do with trying to squeeze extra work out of their employees, as it wouldn't appear that there was anything much content-wise appearing in the Early Sunday edition, that didn't also appear in the regular daily Saturday editon or the weekly Sunday edition. Besides which, the people who print and deliver the papers aren't salaried, they're hourly employees, so they get paid for the time they worked. Unless there were some sort of late-breaking story on Saturday after the regular daily edition had been sent to the printers, there wouldn't be any reporters, writers, photographers or editors putting in extra hours.

I bought ARCHIE #8 recently , and , contrary to what I had internalized , it still had Golden Age Archie reprints .
  I was glad . 
  Will it keep having them ? Are these stories which have already been reprinted in Archie book collections (thus already " mastered " , if you will , for reprinting) ?
  Do the Jughead and B&V titles feature reprints too ?

I recently got a couple more recent digests at the same area Safeway I mentioned I had been meaning to write about them but I don't have them mear me now  .
  However the odd thing was that in one digest TWO DIFFERENT STORIES ! referred to the concept of " going steady " - and they weren't Fifties/early Sixties stories - Really , who talks about " going steady " anymore ?Or since thelate Sixties , iF that ? - but , one was the , I believe , second part of that booklength first Archie-Valerie story from a few years ago in which the Lodges at the movies see Archarie and , noting that Archie is not G. S. w/Betty or Ronnie , decode not to get involved .
  Another one was likely a 00s Satn Goldberg Betty tory from the old 32-page title too it had Bett thinking " Archie is finally going to ask me to  go steady ! " !
  GOING STEADY  ??

When I was a kid stories almost never showed Mrs. Lodge .
  Really (I'm 56) ~ these 60s (reprinted in the 70s I guess more than as new ones)/70s stories made so little use of Mrs. Lodge that you could easily think that Mr. Lodge was one of the many widowed daddies that 1960s situation comedies (Brian Keith , Fred MacMurray...) so liked ~ I only - I THINK - remember one vintage story showing Mrs. Lodge and it was version considerably different from the " silver fox/stylish woman of a certain age " that the 00s comics showed !
  I recall this story showing Mr. Lodge , in a nostalgic mood , remembering his young married years , when he lived in a pretty basic apartment and was out of town (As a salesman ?) a lot of the time ~ He recalled the little Veronica rushing to meet him when he came back ! Mrs. Lodge was at home , of course , TC-ing of B .
  This was before Archie came up w/this concept of the Lodges always having been rich , and having come across to America on the Mayflower which I ran into again in a recent digest (However , I remember an Artie Andrews story showing a child Mr. Lodge moving to Riverdale at modest/perhaps - upperish ? - middle-class but aspiring level so who knows .) !
  IIRC , furthermore , this story showed a modern-day Mrs. Lodge - who was depicted as an overweight , rather empty-headed , society woman concerned with trivial stuff (the Margaret Dumont - Charlotte Greenwood ? - arche/sterotype) with the obvious implication?? that she and Mr. Lodge had rather grown apart over the years .