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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: December 07, 2017, 02:25:33 AM »
12-06-17:
MIGHTY CRUSADERS #1
STAR TREK: BOLDLY GO #14
STAR TREK TNG: THE MIRROR BROKEN #5 (of 6)
SAVAGE DRAGON #229
ROCK CANDY MOUNTAIN #6 (of 8 )
RASPUTIN VOICE OF DRAGON #2 (of 5)
CAPTAIN AMERICA #696 LEG
BATMAN/TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES II #1 (of 6)
DEADMAN #2 (of 6)
JUSTICE INC: FACES OF JUSTICE #4 (of 4)
STREET FIGHTER VS DARKSTALKERS #7 (of 8 )
STREET FIGHTER RELOADED #1 & 2 (of 6)
JUNJI ITO'S SHIVER HC

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: December 01, 2017, 01:04:57 PM »
WEEK OF 11-29-17:

FRANKENSTEIN [by Dick Briefer], in:
 * PRIZE COMICS #7 (Dec 1940) to #44 (Aug 1944) [8 pages each = 288 pages]
 * FRANKENSTEIN #18 (Mar 1952) to #33 (Nov 1954) [230 pages]

Wow, what a wild ride. Frankenstein... the novel, the movies, the creator of life OR the monster he created, have always fascinated me, and every few years I find myself returning to the Frankenstein mythos with renewed enthusiasm. Frankenstein's monster would seem like an unlikely protagonist for an ongoing comic book feature, especially since in both of Briefer's versions he's an unrelenting murdererous maniac with a deep-rooted hatred for all mankind. Those were two completely unrelated different versions of Frankenstein's Monster (and Briefer also did a third, humorous version as well -- which appeared in both Prize Comics #45 to #68, and concurrently in the first 17 issues of Frankenstein, from mid-1944 to the end of 1948). Hard to decide which one I liked better, but the WWII version was possibly a little more outrageous and surprising in its inventiveness. In the later early-1950s self-titled comic book, the monster never speaks, like his Universal Pictures counterpart, but in the Prize Comics series, he's an articulate and intelligent fiend, like the monster in Mary Shelley's original novel. Unlike most comics of the era, there's actually a loose continuity connecting the Frankenstein stories in Prize Comics. From 1943 to 1944, the Prize Comics Frankenstein feature took some strange turns. Finally captured and put on trial for his crimes against humanity in the August 1943 issue, the case for the Frankenstein monster is argued by a scientist, one Professor Carrol, who successfully pleads his case and is allowed to reform the monster in a social experiment using drugs and therapy; the monster is given new clothes, plastic surgery, and even attends grade school briefly, before becoming a wartime production factory worker -- but all of this is just a prelude to the Monster being kidnapped and brainwashed by the Nazis and turned into a Gestapo SS enforcer! My mind boggles at the thought of Universal Pictures' Frankenstein's Monster ever taking such an original tangent. But the whole thing with the arch-evil villain reforming... how often did that happen in 1940s comics (or any other decade's, for that matter)?? As an odd ending to his career in comics, after the Comics Code Authority put the kibosh on the '50s horror-comics boom, artist/writer Dick Briefer found new work for a couple of years in the mid-50s drawing dozens of Jughead stories for Archie Comics, before moving on, more or less permanently, to the more lucrative (or at least more stable) world of advertising art for the rest of his life.

JIMMYS BASTARDS #5
SPY SEAL #4 (of 4)
BLACK MAGICK #9
MYSTIK U #1 (of 3)
MOON KNIGHT #189
KILL OR BE KILLED #14
SHERLOCK FRANKENSTEIN & THE LEGION OF EVIL #2 (of 4)
B & V FRIENDS WINTER ANNUAL #257
ARCHIE COMICS DOUBLE DIGEST #284
RICK & MORTY #32
POWERPUFF GIRLS: BUREAU OF BAD #1 (of 3)
UNCLE SCROOGE #32     
BABY HUEY #90 (Aug 1970)
DEVIL KIDS starring HOT STUFF #18 (1964)
CAPTAIN HARLOCK SPACE PIRATE: DIMENSIONAL VOYAGE VOL 02 TP
SAUCER STATE #5 (of 6)
X-FILES: JFK DISCLOSURE #2 (of 2)
STAR TREK: DISCOVERY #1
STAR WARS ADVENTURES #1-4
HAPPY HOUR IN AMERICA #1
DR. RADAR #1

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General Discussion / Re: Sears/Kmart
« on: November 27, 2017, 05:09:05 AM »
...The Sears at the Capitola Mall in Santa Cruz County is in decent shape, actually! The S-K thing was discussed on another (non-comics) board of mine. Although an outside of the building " Sears " sign was missing color in one of its As, when I went inside, the Capitola Sears was decent'looking, tidy & well-stocked - Not the run-down ghost town I was anticipating! (Someone at that other board works there.)


The mall itself isn't super crowded, I suppose - their food court consisted of three stands! The had a " pay a fee to play video games on a big screen " place, and a comicsgames store, with Magic tables set up in the back - I don't think I'd seen a comics shop in a mall since the boom comics shop years ended in a crash in 1994 or so - Frankly, though I like them, I thought that malls tended to snobbiness about " teenager-attracting businesses " like comics and vg places. Perhaps they can't be so snobbish anymore? ???

I think it's more like... what they don't want to attract is teenagers loitering around, just looking for a place to hang out and meet their friends. What they do want to attract is teenagers who have money to spend in their stores. As long as your money is green (or your credit/bank card is valid), they just want customers and aren't particular as to whom they are.

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General Discussion / Re: Archie Barber Shop
« on: November 26, 2017, 05:07:11 PM »
Seventeen was first publishing in 1916, so I guess it's a possible source of inspiration for The Love Life of Harold Teen, which appeared just 3 years later. Or maybe it was just the times, when adults first began thinking about "those crazy teenagers".

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: November 24, 2017, 04:43:32 AM »
How did you enjoy Betty and Veronica Vixens?

I was a little underwhelmed by it. I still have more interest in it than things like the New Riverdale ARCHIE or B&V by Adam Hughes, but I didn't like it as much as JUGHEAD #8-16, though I'll give it a few more issues. I don't really expect it to run more than 6 or 8 issues, anyway.


How was the Sugarplum story in Archie and Me?

It's not really what I'd call a Sugarplum story. She's IN it, briefly, but it's really another Jingles story. The gist of the plot here is that Sugarplum used her magic powers to remove Jingles' own magical abilities as a brownie, so now he has to mooch off Archie until he figures out some way that he can get Sugarplum to restore his powers. As for why Sugarplum would do that to Jingles, he says it's because he was dating a friend of Sugarplum's, but then he started dating someone else, and Sugarplum found out about it. There's no reference made to those stories from less than a decade ago, where Sugarplum and Jingles (in their human guises as Susan and Jimmy) actually dated each other.

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: November 22, 2017, 08:53:26 AM »
ASH VS. THE ARMY OF DARKNESS #5 (of 5)
PUNISHER: PLATOON #3 (of 6)
THANOS #13
SAVAGE DRAGON #228
RICK AND MORTY: POCKET LIKE YOU STOLE IT #5 (of 5)
DETECTIVE COMICS #969
WONDER WOMAN #35
THE DEMON: HELL IS EARTH #1 (of 6)
DOOMSDAY CLOCK #1 (of 12)
KAMANDI CHALLENGE #11 (of 12)
SCOOBY-DOO TEAM UP #32
LOONEY TUNES #240
THE GREATEST ADVENTURE #7 (of 9)
SHEENA #3
DIE KITTY DIE: HOLLYWOOD OR BUST #4 (of 4)
YOUR PAL ARCHIE #4 (of 5)
BETTY & VERONICA: VIXENS #1
ARCHIE AND ME COMICS DIGEST #2
THAT WILKIN BOY #27 (APR 1974)
JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS #75 (APR 1974)
JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS #76 (JUN 1974)
ARCHIE'S T.V. LAUGH-OUT #24 (MAY 1974)
ARCHIE'S T.V. LAUGH-OUT #32 (JUL 1975)
ARCHIE'S T.V. LAUGH-OUT #83 (OCT 1981)
SABRINA THE TEENAGE WITCH #50 (DEC 1978)
CHILI #19 (OCT 1972)
LAUGH #270 (SEP 1973)
LAUGH #306 (SEP 1976)
PEP #283 (NOV 1973)
PEP #380 (DEC 1981)
ARCHIE'S GIRLS BETTY AND VERONICA #154 (OCT 1968)
ARCHIE'S GIRLS BETTY AND VERONICA #310 (OCT 1981)
ARCHIE'S GIRLS BETTY AND VERONICA #319 (AUG 1982)
ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (BETTY AND VERONICA SPECTACULAR) #246 (JUN 1976)
ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (BETTY AND VERONICA SPECTACULAR) #510 (OCT 1981)
BETTY AND ME #30 (SEP 1970)
BETTY AND ME #68 (AUG 1975)
BETTY AND ME #124 (OCT 1981)
Spire Christian Comics:
    ARCHIE'S CLEAN SLATE (1973)
    ARCHIE'S WORLD (1976)
    ARCHIE GETS A JOB! (1977)
    JUGHEAD'S SOUL FOOD (1979)
    ARCHIE'S FESTIVAL (1980)
    ARCHIE AND MR. WEATHERBEE (1980)
ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (WORLD OF ARCHIE) #509 (SEP 1981)
ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (WORLD OF JUGHEAD) #511 (OCT 1981)
JUGHEAD #223 (DEC 1973)
JUGHEAD #317 (OCT 1981)
JUGHEAD'S JOKES #43 (APR 1975)
REGGIE'S JOKES #29 (MAY 1974)
REGGIE AND ME #79 (JUL 1975)
MADHOUSE COMICS #126 (OCT 1981)
LIFE WITH ARCHIE #84 (APR 1969)
LIFE WITH ARCHIE #139 (NOV 1973)
LIFE WITH ARCHIE #144 (APR 1974)
LIFE WITH ARCHIE #227 (NOV 1981)
ARCHIE #245 (JUL 1975)
ARCHIE #246 (AUG 1975)
ARCHIE AT RIVERDALE HIGH #11 (OCT 1973)
ARCHIE AT RIVERDALE HIGH #15 (APR 1974)
ARCHIE AT RIVERDALE HIGH #82 (OCT 1981)
ARCHIE AND ME #65 (JUN 1974)
ARCHIE AND ME #130 (OCT 1951)
EVERYTHING'S ARCHIE #35 (SEP 1974)
EVERYTHING'S ARCHIE #40 (JUN 1974)


(... All binge-read in about 12 hours. Whew!! ...)





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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: November 19, 2017, 11:31:12 AM »
STAR TREK: DISCOVERY - OFFICIAL COLLECTOR'S EDITION MAGAZINE HC - I've not seen the streaming series yet. Looks interesting.

POPEYE CLASSICS VOL 10 HC - A quick read and super-enjoyable, as always. Bud Sagendorf's Popeye is the one I'm most familiar with. He was a former assistant to E.C. Segar, Popeye's creator, and drew the comic book stories from #1 (published by Dell Comics in 1948) until #72 (published by Gold Key Comics in 1964), and the Popeye newspaper strip from 1959 (which is where this volume ends, with issue #49) until 1986. Sagendorf's Popeye combined the Segar version with the more familiar and popular Fleischer Brothers animated version from the 1930s. The stories are brilliantly inventive, stream-of-consciousness little epics. As an example, in issue #46, we get the complete story of Swee'pea, when he asks Popeye to fill him in on who he is and how he became Popeye's "adoptik boy-kid". Hopefully Craig Yoe and IDW can continue this series (should be another 4 or 5 hardcover volumes) until the conclusion of Sagendorf's run on the comic. The single-issue reprint series (entitled Classic Popeye) is already up to issue #65, so only another dozen issues to go until the end of Sagendorf's comic book version.

BETTY AND VERONICA DOUBLE DIGEST #258 - Still has the highest page count of classic Dan DeCarlo stories. Nice to see a new Jeff Shultz B&V story (and the return of Noelle Claus). Cramming more special sections into this digest is kind of a trade-off, because now they're as short as 11 pages. In this issue we get Li'l Jinx (eh...), Josie, Sabrina plus 2 classic Doyle/DeCarlo Betty & Me stories, in addition to the more usual recent stuff.

MY FRIEND DAHMER by Derf Backderf (OGN) - It's now been made into a indy film adaptation, so they did a new printing with a movie photo cover. Been meaning to read this for ages. Outstanding. The creator of the graphic novel was a fellow classmate of Jeffrey Dahmer's who knew him in high school, and he details his weird behavior even then. In addition to Derf's own memories and those of his friends, he also draws material from interviews with Dahmer himself, his parents, and on investigative news reports at the time of Dahmer's arrest in 1991, when Derf's then-girlfriend was a local reporter who was covering the story. Creepy and chilling -- yet the author also presents Dahmer as human, a monster-in-the-making that didn't have to be if he had gotten the help he needed in time to avert his later more extreme behavior.  Some of the scenes from Dahmer's life are bizarre - like an incident where, while on a class field trip to Washington D.C., Dahmer used his persuasiveness by making a blind call from a pay phone to the office of then-Vice President Walter Mondale to secure an invite for a meet-and-greet with himself and his classmates. Incredibly, the Vice President of the U.S. met with students from his class and Dahmer in was in the same office (as was national syndicated columnist Art Buchwald) only feet away.

THE MONSTER OF FRANKENSTEIN TP - This reprints both the color comic book series (1970s Marvel), plus the black & white comics from MONSTERS UNLEASHED magazine.

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: November 18, 2017, 01:37:56 PM »
SCARLET TRACES VOL 02 TP
THE ROOK ARCHIVES VOL 02 HC
THE ROOK ARCHIVES VOL 03 HC
THE ART OF THE PULPS HC
FICTION HOUSE: FROM PULPS TO PANELS, FROM JUNGLES TO SPACE HC
ROM #13 & 14
FIRST STRIKE #0-6 (of 6)
FIRST STRIKE: MICRONAUTS #1 (one-shot)
FIRST STRIKE: ROM #1 (one-shot)
NOT BRAND ECHH #14 (one-shot)
THE HARVEY COMICS COMPANION by Mark Arnold TP
FUTURE QUEST PRESENTS: THE GALAXY TRIO VS. SPACE GHOST #4
BUG: THE ADVENTURES OF FORAGER #5  (of 6)
CASPER THE FRIENDLY GHOST #2
GREEN HORNET '66 MEETS THE SPIRIT #5 (of 5)
RASPUTIN: VOICE OF THE DRAGON #1 (of 5)
KONG ON THE PLANET OF THE APES #1 (of 6)
SIMPSONS COMICS #241
COUGAR AND CUB TP
SHIGERU MIZUKI'S KITARO VOL 04: KITARO'S STRANGE ADVENTURES TP



I'm loving the Casper series. I wish they had more available.

It was all right. I primarily got it for the Hot Stuff story, where he almost (but not quite) meets Wendy the Good Little Witch.

Much more fascinating to me this week was reading the whole story behind the story of the company that published Casper's comic books for more than 30 years, Harvey Comics, in THE HARVEY COMICS COMPANION. From its start in 1941 to 1958, when it acquired the rights to the Casper character from its original owners Famous Studios/Paramount (for essentially nothing, and the reasons why are complicated but interesting), along with the rights to other former Paramount-owned characters like Little Audrey, Baby Huey, Buzzy the Crow, and Herman & Katnip, Harvey Comics went from being a general publisher of many types and genres of comic books, to a publisher which invested its entire future in those characters and others of a similar type. In the short run, it turned out to be an immensely profitable decision, but in the long run, it's the very reason why Harvey Comics no longer exists today. 25 years later, family strife and legal complications ultimately shut the company down, but it's still easy to see that they were fighting a losing battle because they invested everything in this one limited genre of comic book publishing. They put ALL their intellectual property eggs in ONE basket.

Ultimately the company, then calling itself Harvey Classics, was sold to Classic Media (then owned by Hallmark), which in turn was acquired by Dreamworks SKG, and rebranded itself Dreamworks Classics, until Dreamworks SKG was acquired by NBC Universal (which is now owned by Comcast).

It's easy to see some pretty interesting parallels between Harvey Comics and Archie Comics, on many levels -- both in terms of the product they are marketing and to whom, the family ownership situation, and various mismanagement difficulties. Ultimately, I think ACP will wind up with a similar fate. They're unlikely to sell out to another comic book company, but more likely to sell out to a media conglomerate interested in exploiting the nostalgia potential of their intellectual properties for merchandising profits and newer media re-imaginings.

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All About Archie / Re: Archie Comics February 2018 Solicitations
« on: November 16, 2017, 04:15:09 AM »
I hope that Best of Betty and Veronica Vol 2 trade really happens this time, though. 

Yeah, me too. It seems like lately they are catching up and managing to get those old cancelled trade collections printed after all (look how long it took for THE COMPLETE SABRINA) so hopefully they can keep it up.

Here's a "not final" cover image from a 'previously solicited but later cancelled' offering (unfortunately I couldn't find an exact release date on this one) of that same proposed title:


This wouldn't be a bad time to review a number of the remaining 'previously solicited but later cancelled' offerings, so here's some of the ones that still haven't made it to print so far:

Another B&V TPB collection, previously solicited for a December 24, 2014 shipping date and later cancelled:


This one was intended as a hardcover collection reprinting the first six issues of ARCHIE'S GIRLS BETTY AND VERONICA (I don't have the intended release date):


Previously solicited for a January 20, 2016 shipping date and later cancelled:


This B&V TPB collection would have been in the form of a flip-book (with two "front covers" upside-down relative to each other), intended for a March 30, 2016 shipping date but later cancelled:


Two previous solicitations for KEVIN KELLER TPB collections that would have compiled the remainder of the existing published single issues:

Maybe we'll finally get to see those after the LIFE WITH KEVIN TPB collection of digital issues #1-4 sees print?



And finally a few Red Circle superhero/adventure series TPB collections solicited then cancelled that still haven't been resolicited:

The second Fox miniseries, THE FOX: FOX HUNT by Dean Haspiel and Mark Waid:


NEW CRUSADERS: DARK TOMORROW, a trade compilation from a miniseries completed (but never published as single issues) as a follow-up to NEW CRUSADERS: RISE OF THE HEROES:


And finally, a TPB collection of Tom DeFalco & Greg Scott's SAM HILL, PRIVATE EYE, which was released as a digital exclusive, but not as solicited for trade paperback:

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: November 15, 2017, 09:26:39 AM »
SCARLET TRACES VOL 02 TP
THE ROOK ARCHIVES VOL 02 HC
THE ROOK ARCHIVES VOL 03 HC
THE ART OF THE PULPS HC
FICTION HOUSE: FROM PULPS TO PANELS, FROM JUNGLES TO SPACE HC
ROM #13 & 14
FIRST STRIKE #0-6 (of 6)
FIRST STRIKE: MICRONAUTS #1 (one-shot)
FIRST STRIKE: ROM #1 (one-shot)
NOT BRAND ECHH #14 (one-shot)
THE HARVEY COMICS COMPANION by Mark Arnold TP
FUTURE QUEST PRESENTS: THE GALAXY TRIO VS. SPACE GHOST #4
BUG: THE ADVENTURES OF FORAGER #5  (of 6)
CASPER THE FRIENDLY GHOST #2
GREEN HORNET '66 MEETS THE SPIRIT #5 (of 5)
RASPUTIN: VOICE OF THE DRAGON #1 (of 5)
KONG ON THE PLANET OF THE APES #1 (of 6)
SIMPSONS COMICS #241
COUGAR AND CUB TP
SHIGERU MIZUKI'S KITARO VOL 04: KITARO'S STRANGE ADVENTURES TP

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General Discussion / Re: Sears/Kmart
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:44:38 AM »
That's a bummer. I remember going into a K-mart once and specifically asking a store clerk if they carried Archie digests, and the answer was "No", although that was a couple of years ago. I do remember seeing them about a year later in Walmart, but lately when I've been in there... once again, no Archie digests. Come to think of it, it's been a while since I've looked at Barnes & Noble, which was the only other place I knew of that I could reliably find them (other than special-ordering through my LCS) so who knows if B&N even carries them now. It would explain a lot.

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All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
« on: November 12, 2017, 06:30:13 AM »
Psychoanalysis of the people you know is probably not considered "normal" for any teenager, but that's Trula's thing. If any more proof were needed, for no particular reason on her part (it's not because she decided she didn't like them, or wanted revenge against them or anything) in "The Opinion Maker" (JUGHEAD #176), Trula decides to try an experiment in social modification to change what other people think about Betty and Veronica. Her interest is purely scientific, just to see if she can do it. I leave it to anyone to decide if that's "normal" or not. Yet in her own strange way, Trula's really a nice girl. When she offers Jughead a place to stay temporarily at her house, she doesn't do it (as Jughead is expecting) hoping to get anything out of it, it's done because she's sympathetic to his problems with his own family.

Trula's not like the other teenagers we know in Riverdale in that she's from a single-parent home. Her mother is an independent career woman, a successful psychologist and author, and Trula's the only character who has shown a strong desire to follow in a similar career path to her parent. Trula probably has a need to prove that her self-image isn't dependent on a relationship, like her mother, regardless of her interest in Jughead. She doesn't let her emotions rule her thoughts. Trula probably thinks the only thing necessary to get along in life is to understand how other people think and why they behave the way they do.

The thing about the Trula-Jughead relationship that's most fascinating is that it's more complex than that between any other two characters in Riverdale. Jughead considers her his archenemy, but Trula doesn't feel the same way about him. She LIKES him, as a girl. When Jughead describes her as "trouble", that's REALLY what he's talking about. For the most part, Jughead doesn't avoid girls because he's scared of them. TRULA actually does scare him, so by demonizing her he's putting up a front. But even though Jughead considers her his archenemy, he never once considers NOT buying her a Christmas present, something that boggles Archie's mind.

As a psychology student though, Jughead's unique mindset fascinates Trula endlessly. NOBODY else can figure Jughead out. Oh, they may THINK they can. Certainly every single person he knows is aware of his weakness for food, which is so much of an autonomic knee-jerk response that it comes up constantly in stories. But everything else about the way he thinks... no. Not even Archie, really, and he's his best friend. They can recognize a few general behavior patterns they've seen over and over again when it comes to Juggie, but they don't really understand the WHY of his behavior, like why Jughead would expend 5 times as much energy avoiding work as he would if he just gave into the situation and agreed to do the work. It's not the energy it takes to do the work. If you can talk him into something, he'll do it, or at least try to do it, as he agreed. But once he's decided he's NOT gonna do something, no one and nothing will change his mind, and that becomes a matter of principle for him.

When it comes to girls, there have been some that have pursued Jughead, but with Ethel, he merely has to avoid her, outrun her, or trick her in some way. If Juggie looks panicked sometimes when she's chasing him, it's merely the adrenaline of the immediate pursuit. Sometimes he relents and feels sympathy for her, when he sees how hard she tries, and decides to give her a break. What Trula manages to do that no other girl ever has is make Jughead expend a goodly portion of his thoughts thinking about HER, worrying about her, wondering what she's going to do next, and figuring out how he can resist falling prey to her traps. The one thing he CAN'T afford to do is avoid thinking about her. So to him, she's his "archenemy". After the original "Target: Jughead" story, Trula is never quite as aggressive in targeting Jughead, and maybe it's because she just feels like she's got too big of an advantage over him.

On one level, Trula is to Jughead as Jughead is to Reggie. Jughead can ALWAYS whoop Reggie's mental butt in a battle of wits, because he's figured out exactly what makes Reggie tick... how he thinks. And Trula can do the same to Jughead, which is what scares him. For every time Jughead swears up and down that Trula will never make him do this or that, he winds up doing it anyway. This is why Trula is the only girl who scares him, and what makes her his "archenemy" -- that she somehow understands Jughead's psychology better than he understands himself, and can get him to do things that he's consciously promised himself he won't do, so it feels like he's betrayed his own principles and acted in direct opposition to his conscious choices, or at least something he recognizes that he's against doing in principle.

At some point in the series of Trula stories, Jughead's paranoia over her becomes a bigger instigator for stories than anything Trula sets out to do. Jughead can figure out how Reggie thinks, because Reggie's a guy. Jughead has some idea of his own that he thinks he knows how girls think (most of which is just the negative stuff he hates about Veronica), but he actually has no clue how they really think, because he's not even interested in knowing -- girls are too alien to him, and he's never really bothered. What's the point? He's never considered he'd have any use for that information, so he's never even tried. And that's his great weakness when he comes up against Trula. He'll try to predict what she'll do, but he'll never ever actually attempt to understand her -- because he can't put himself in her place. It's simpler for him to believe there's no reason other than that she's just trying to torture him. Whether his brief time as her houseguest resulted in any change in his way of thinking is anyone's guess, since that's (almost) the last we've seen of her, but he should at least be grateful for her help.

All of the above, of course, refers specifically just to the "Craig Boldman Jughead" and how he behaves in those stories. It's just not possible to incorporate all that other stuff from the early '90s (to say nothing of the earlier stuff from the 1950s and 1960s) into a consistent character.

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All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
« on: November 12, 2017, 03:08:02 AM »
Trula Twyst as Jughead sees her: "trouble squared, cubed, and double-polygoned".



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NOTES FROM PSYCHOANALYSIS OF SUBJECT "J" (by T. Twyst):

Subject displays an active imagination, and a strong desire to cast himself in a favorable image to himself and others. Subject believes that he is being passively observed, and that his actions require justification in the form of a narrative commentary, acted out for the benefit of those observers, on events of his life.

Subject displays an involuntary strong emotional disturbance in reaction to the thought of "Trula Twyst", which causes him to break his self-defined character as an ersatz "Professor" (offering an explanation as calmly logical methodology) and disrupts his mental powers of concentration, as denoted by the logical progression of mathematical powers of ten (squared to cubed), to a non-sequitur association with nonsense-geometry ("double-polygoned"), as he symbolically casts aside his robes of professorial learning. Subject would like to believe he is a paragon of intelligence and knowledge, but when this self-delusion is shattered, he casts it aside along with his faith in his own rational ability, letting himself be guided by pure emotion.

All reactions of Subject J continue to progress according to behavioral predictions.

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All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
« on: November 11, 2017, 07:25:10 AM »
Not really related to Trula, but I came across this interesting short e-book (free to read) entitled ANALYZING JUGHEAD by Monique Jones. It doesn't really talk about Trula, nor is it the kind of psychoanalysis that Trula usually practices, but it's worth a look for free. I don't agree with half of what the author has to say (for some reason that escapes me, she spends 2 pages of her 25 page book talking about Jughead's suspenders and treating them in terms as if they were as iconic as his beanie or his S-shirt), but I just think it's kind of interesting that anything like this exists at all.

https://issuu.com/moniquej/docs/analyzingjugheadebook

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All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
« on: November 11, 2017, 05:39:23 AM »

I think a lot of his attitude towards women comes from seeing how Veronica (and others like Cheryl) treats Archie like crap even though he is too much of a lapdog for her (her fickleness doesn't help either).
Excellent point. Jughead sees his buddy as very pliable to girl's "wiles" (also one his strengths with them-he doesn't want to hurt any, though he does it when he sees other girls behind their backs), and he doesn't want to be treated like that. My deal with Trula is that she doesn't seem to have any flaws, which is of course not true. I seem to recall the story where Juhead stayed at her home when he was trying to prove a point to his parents about staying under their roof. We found out a little about Trula, where her parents were divorced. I think DR pointed out when she couldn't control them not staying together as a child, and she's been trying to make up for it ever since through her psychology.

I like a story where Trula gets hers, such as the one where she spreads rumors about Betty and Ronica, reversing what most people usually thought of the girls, saying Betty isn't as nice as she seems, while Ronica is much nicer than she appears, all to aid her study about people's reactions. Jughead got wind of it, and in the end, he poured some food on her in the cafeteria, and left her, all while doing it in a "gentle" manner.

I think that Jughead's friendship with Betty is the most genuine outside of Archie. Recall at the end of the classic Archie story "Decisions" (in my second album, near the front). He told Betty if he kissed any girl, it would be Betty. He also said if Archie has to like a girl, he'd prefer Betty for him, and Jughead would approve. Throughout the years, Jughead has virtually almost always helped Betty over Ronica in Betty's battles for Archie's attentions. In the most recent new Archie book, Jughead recalled a memory when they were all children, concerning Betty: Hot Dog being hit by a car, and was struggling to survive while they were all at the veterinarian's office. Archie, not understanding (though he tries), said the worse thing possible while comforting Jughead: "I know how you feel". Jughead dismissed Archie and Betty in a huff. Betty came back later and sat with Jughead while he worried about Hot Dog. He knows Betty's a good person, throughout both the classic and the new versions. That hasn't changed....

Actually, in the story you're referring to ("Psyche Out!", JUGHEAD #210) where Jughead moves in with Trula and her mother (author of pop-psych bestsellers) after he has a big fight with his dad, he cracks under the stress of a week's time waiting in anticipation for Trula to begin picking his brain. In reality though, Trula has gone out of her way to be a gracious and sympathetic host, avoiding asking Jughead any personal questions about his problems at home, but Jughead can't take the stress of not knowing what's going on in Trula's mind, and decides to move out. Before he does, he asks her directly why she didn't attempt to fish around in his psyche to find out what's been bugging him lately -- he's been expecting it for days on end. But instead Trula calmly explains that it would be rude of her as a host to get nosey and pry into his personal business -- if he'd wanted her help, all he'd have needed to do was ask her.  Despite her outwardly calm and unperturbed demeanor, Trula hasn't been totally unaffected by Jughead's stay at her house though -- when she spies THIS:

 -- She ultimately loses it and blows her top (it's little quirks like that of Jughead's that drive her up the wall). After Jughead has left, Trula is still curious about one thing, so she asks her mother why she so readily agreed to let Jughead stay with them. Her mother tells her that she wanted to observe Trula's own reactions to living in close quarters with Jughead for a prolonged time, as research material for a new book she's writing. What Trula has done to Jughead in the past, Trula's mom does to her (and we might infer from that, that this is just business as usual for Mrs. Twyst), which might explain something about Trula.

You're right about Betty, though. Jughead would like nothing better than to see his best pal give up this crazy idea of chasing Veronica Lodge, and settle down with a sweet, sensible, steady girlfriend who truly appreciates him, like Betty. It would be better for Archie, and it would de-complicate Jughead's life as well, but I also think he'd just like to see Betty be happy.

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