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Show posts MenuQuote from: swiss watch on April 06, 2016, 08:28:41 PM
If they do, they'll probably just shrug because that's the status quo in Riverdale. Moose is going to have a 'soft spot for milfs.' Reggie asks Archie if he 'tapped any milf ass this summer.' I'd be amazed if Jughead isn't in on it too.
Someone in the Riverdale thread said something about Archie Comics wondering what they would do if the show doesn't succeed, but how will it help if it does succeed? This show is so different from their backlog of stories and even from the reboot, there won't be many new crossover fans from tv, if there ever are many for shows based on comics. And what about when the show ends in, at the most, seven years?
QuoteWhat a weird feature to let anyone delete things from the shoutbox. Wonder why that is even built into the forum.
Quote from: BettyReggie on April 06, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
What does this topic mean Archie x Ms. Gundy? Does it mean he loves her.
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on April 06, 2016, 06:02:45 PMQuoteIsn't that the writer who said he never read old Archie Comics but still called them "conservative"? Remember what I said about these writers?
True. He is that 'I'm not familiar with Archie but I don't like it because it's a saccharine, un-self-examined, humorless Happy Days. However it has transformed from conservative to progressive which means for the first time I can read it and make it to the end' guy.
QuoteAfter re-reading this, I have got to think this is a joke, right? I really can't be true. The person who wrote the article is messing around with our minds, right? .....
Quote from: swiss watch on April 05, 2016, 07:34:04 PM
But seriously, I do agree with the sentiment behind this thread, and I can't understand why Archie is allowing Aguirre-Sacasa to take the property in a direction that will probably hurt the company in the long run by fooling people into thinking the squeaky clean old Archie is boring.
Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on April 06, 2016, 12:41:14 PMQuote from: old_jughead on April 06, 2016, 01:04:23 AMQuoteExtremely curious to see what they do with Jugheads Hat.. Wondering If they will end up scraping it- and if so tables will be flipped.Probably will be scrapped. I don't see how it can work in this interpretation of the comics. Maybe it will just be a regular beanie that he wears.
I doubt he will be wearing his crown hat. And this new "Jughead" is not even into food anymore. They are changing him to be addicted to coffee instead
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You could replace "diversity" with "a more accurate representation of real life in current times", my wording is just more concise.
QuoteI'm not the same person you argued with before, more than one person disagrees with you. Things are different now, the comics have evolved to be more reflective of our times.
QuoteIf Korea has a large percentage of minorities all over the country, then yes, I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be represented but I'm not arguing about Korean shows.
QuoteDiversity wasn't removed because we still have plenty of main characters like Archie, Betty and Jughead who are all white, in fact, the majority of the cast is white. It's not like the pussycats where the only white characters in the show and changing their race eliminated any representation of white people.
QuoteYou yourself are using buzzwords in your argument with "faux-liberals" and "SJWs" when you are asking me not to use them.
QuoteThe change isn't that Black people arrived in the US at the time, the change is from the authors of Archie updating their comics to reflect the times when Black people were starting to get more equal rights.
QuoteKevin Keller is a popular character so they could easily bring him on the show and have people recognise who he is. No one knows much about the other minority characters that were introduced recently so those characters have practically no chance of playing a major role on the show, at most it would be a cameo.
Quote from: old_jughead on April 05, 2016, 09:43:46 PMQuote
Regardless, Archie Comics wasn't created today, and it certainly looks like if it was it would be total and utter garbage like this pilot is turning into. If this pilot is what Archie would be if it was created today, it wouldn't be remembered tomorrow let alone 70 years from now. If you liked the comics and characters, maybe you would actually have more of an issue with them being changed into something totally unrecognizable.
The point is Archie Comics has always been diverse right from the get-go and everyone was accepted for who they are. There were old people, young people, fat people, skinny people, ugly people, beautiful people, nerds, jocks, freckled people etc. Then over the years they added more diversity like having black characters such as Chuck as the look of America started to change and now we have a gay person with Kevin Kellar. Diversity isn't new with Archie, it's just been updated to include more diversity in races to represent today. If the show was set in the 50s, that would be a different story, but it isn't.
QuoteThe point is Archie Comics has always been diverse right from the get-go and everyone was accepted for who they are. There were old people, young people, fat people, skinny people, ugly people, beautiful people, nerds, jocks, freckled people etc.
QuoteThen over the years they added more diversity like having black characters such as Chuck as the look of America started to change and now we have a gay person with Kevin Kellar. Diversity isn't new with Archie, it's just been updated to include more diversity in races to represent today. If the show was set in the 50s, that would be a different story, but it isn't.
Quote from: old_jughead on April 05, 2016, 09:26:57 PMQuoteThe characters of Archie Comics are based on people Bob Montanta knew. Why do the creators' input not matter to you?
Because that was nearly a century ago and the look of a town back then is a lot different than what it is like today. I'm sure that if Archie was created today, it would represent a lot of diverse groups like the show is trying to do.
QuoteUm, no. 21 is based on a real story so they should have kept the races the same. I don't know much about Last Airbender because I'm not a fan but from what I gather the characters weren't specified as Asians but just "Asian inspired" so the race change wasn't a big concern here. The bigger problem with casting non-white actors in these roles is that there is little opportunity for people of colour to work in the industry already so changing the races of these characters diminishes their chances even more.
Quote from: old_jughead on April 05, 2016, 08:07:18 PMQuoteYes, that's why I don't have a problem with Archie's race being kept but more with how they changed his features and personality.
Is red hair and freckles not something intrinsically tied to a person's race?
QuoteThe ones who say they don't care about race are the ones most obsessed with it and thinking about it constantly.QuoteBecause you are obsessed with race and all of your arguments have been about race so I'm responding to those complaints.
Quote from: old_jughead on April 05, 2016, 07:40:24 PM
Archie's red hair and freckles and his average looks are iconic to the character. Race change would be a problem if their race was what defined the character and made them special.
Quote from: kassandralove on April 05, 2016, 07:00:25 PM
LOL this is hilarious
Does he have a Twitter? We should all tweet him at the same time about this hahaha!!
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