Quote from: Justnobody42 on January 07, 2017, 11:17:16 PM
I dunno, I don't see how a comedy Archie show would work all that well. The Archie comedy has always been, well, rather traditional and not really anything special. The 2015 reboot, I think, would have made a great tv show- all the right balance between drama and actually clever jokes and moments- when i read the first issue, i thought "This is the best TV pilot i've ever read!". While Riverdale did sort of come out of left field, I think it's going to be over the top and dramatic enough to be, if not good, at least entertaining.

Yeah,I agree they should have made a archie drama comedy seriesbased on the reboot format heck the reboot archie comic series gives respect to the original classic version because it sometimes has drama and comedy in it.

Quote from: gillibean on January 07, 2017, 11:34:07 PM
I think Riverdale would be good if it was its own thing... but its not, its based on Archie Comics, and they just messed it up.
If your going to give beloved comic book characters their own show, the #1 thing you need to think about are the fans!


I like to use Sabrina the Teenage witch as an example. Shes one of my favorite characters, and the TV show was great! It payed amazing respect to the original source, but it was still able to branch out more... and it was a comedy! I don't think any Sabrina fan would be insulted by it.


It was a HORRIBLE idea to make Riverdale this awful drama... The comics are comedic! You think a comedy would be the obvious choice!



I haven't watched to Riverdale and back again in a while. But it was BAD.

Yeah,I agree with you lets hope it gets cancelled when it has mixed reviews or something especially hoping if it has 'low ratings' and hope that archie comics will be make a proper series instead but this time with either comedy (a sitcom) or a drama comedy like scrubs

Quote from: Upsiditus on January 04, 2017, 09:36:35 PM
   A cartoon Archie Comics series would seem like a slam dunk.  However, cartoons usually have limited budgets, so Betty and Veronica would be wearing the same clothes in every episode, which is rather off-putting.

Good point

Quote from: Upsiditus on January 04, 2017, 09:36:35 PMA live-action sitcom without either a studio audience or a laugh track would could very good, IMO. 

Yeah,I think that could work and if its aimed for older audience that will be suitable as well.

Quote from: Bluto on January 05, 2017, 01:24:55 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on December 27, 2016, 05:25:06 PMNever mind all that. I'm still waiting for a proper Archie animated series. The first one (produced by Filmation) came the closest, but that isn't saying much. Of the main five characters, about the only one whose personality came even remotely close to being captured by the cartoon was Reggie (at least he could be relied on to pull underhanded tricks and prank Archie). Did we see comical situations caused by Archie's accident-prone nature, his inability to choose between Betty & Veronica, his constant chasing after various girls, his misadventures working various jobs in an attempt to make enough cash to date Veronica? What about Archie's behavior constantly landing him in Detention, or him being a constant thorn in Mr. Lodge's side? What about Archie constantly chasing Veronica, while Betty constantly chased Archie? We did not see anything like that. Did we see episodes based on the contrasting nature of B & V's personalities? We did not. Did we see episodes based on Jughead's mooching, his willingness to do anything if there was a food reward involved, or his concentrated effort to avoid work? We did not. Did we see intense contests between Archie & Reggie over dating Veronica or Reggie's constantly outclassing Archie as more well-dressed, better in sports, with a nicer car and plenty of spending cash; B & V's rivalry over Archie, and the lengths each might go to, to gain the upper hand over the other; or the battle of wits between Jughead and Reggie? We did not. Besides the music, all we ever saw were generic comedy situations. That and lots and lots of Hot Dog's antics. The Filmation people absolutely loved Hot Dog... it was practically his show. Not surprisingly, since they were the ones who invented him.

I can't begin to express how much I was looking forward to that show before its debut and how utterly disappointed I was when I finally saw it. As you point out, it wasn't like the comic book stories and characters. And the voices were terrible!

yeah you will be disappointed when you watch  'Riverdale' as for the animation part back then in the 70's, animation was poor due to limited budget at that time  which was why hannah barbera and filmation especially ruby spears were the king of television animation in the 70s


Including Dic because their quality was poor when they did archie's weird mysteries

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on January 05, 2017, 02:36:07 AMThere doesn't seem to be any evidence that the Filmation people actually read any of the then-current or recent Archie comic books as source material for their scriptwriters. Then again, as a Saturday morning cartoon, it was aimed at even younger kids than the median age of Archie Comics readers. That meant no dating or romance-based plots, no "girl-chasing" for Archie. As well, this was the time when animated cartoons on television had come under intense scrutiny by parents (specifically Peggy Charren's "Action For Children's Television", which had just been formed in 1968), and in a way, the very idea of adapting Archie to television was a response to this (where previously Filmation had adapted action-oriented comic book heroes like Superman and Aquaman). While The Archie Show went into production earlier than any "Action" against action-oriented television programs for children had actually been taken, as one of the early prime producers of those action cartoons (along with Hanna-Barbera), certainly producers Norm Prescott and Lou Scheimer had been among the first to hear the sabres rattling. As a result, all the flawed characteristics of Archie and the gang were ignored, and they became bland, model teenagers (except for the one 'black hat' character, Reggie the troublemaker, clearly portrayed as a n'eer-do-well whose actions were not to be emulated). They did have some idea of how bland they had made the characters though, and in an attempt to balance that, they figured -- well, who could object to the comical antics of a cartoon mutt who thinks like a human! As well, cartoon animals were always easier to animate for the traditional animators than realistic people.

You do have a good point about that.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on January 05, 2017, 02:36:07 AMKnowing a little about Lou Scheimer, the producer of the cartoon, I can tell you he was inspired in a lot of his choices for adapting existing media characters to animation by his own childhood memories, and many of those derived from the era of radio plays. THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN, when you look closely at the cartoon, took most of its cues not from the Golden Age or Silver Age comic books, but from the classic radio series The Adventures of Superman, starring Bud Collyer. That's why he hired Collyer to play the role of Clark Kent/Superman, and former announcer for the radio series Jackson Beck to do the narration (heard in the cartoon credits doing a slightly modified update of the old radio opening "Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound! ... Superman! Rocketed to Earth as an infant when the distant planet Krypton exploded, and who, disguised as Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter for The Daily Planet, fights a never-ending battle for truth, justice and freedom, with super-powers far beyond those of ordinary mortals!"). In addition to getting Bud Collyer, Jackson Beck, and Joan Alexander (Lois) to reprise their roles for the new animated cartoon, Filmation included characters used only in the radio series like Daily Planet copyboy Beany (himself an 'Archie-type' character). Another member of the voice cast of TNAoS was Jack Grimes, famous now as the voice of Speed Racer, here reprising his role (from the latter years of the Adventures of Superman radio series) as Jimmy Olsen. As an interesting connection, Grimes had also played the role of Henry Aldrich (one of the two prime Archie Andrews prototypes, along with Mickey Rooney's Andy Hardy) of The Aldrich Family, on an early television adaptation of the radio series. (The Aldrich Family radio series had a complex evolution itself, but is well worth listening to by fans of Archie, as it gives some very interesting insight into how much the characters of Henry Aldrich and Archie Andrews shared in common.)

So when you ask yourself why the vocal characterizations for Archie and the gang in the Filmation cartoons sounded so strange, go back and listen to the voices on the old Archie Andrews radio program. Many people have wondered about the seemingly odd choice of Filmation to give the voice of Veronica (Jane Webb, who portrayed all the female voices on the show) a 'Southern Belle' accent, and that can be specifically attributed to the radio program. I think Lou Scheimer was largely working from an amalgam of hazy recollections of both the radio show and Bob Montana's newspaper strip Archie, and never even looked at the comic books of the time.

and you have a good pointt about the radio part as well     

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on December 27, 2016, 12:46:41 PM
Well, let's not forget Archie's Weird Mysteries, was about- like the name says, mysteries. But this new CW thing is gonna be more about sex, violence/murder. That's what I don't like. What is it about people that all they want to watch is those kinds of things? They don't really care about innocent-ish things anymore.

Oh yeah i heard about Archie's Weird Mysteries,It may be a poor show at least it has the familiar archie themes especially its funny elements,As for the new CW riverdale yeah i don't like it as well ,Spinoff from archie comics consisting of horror and later action-fine.Reboot the archie universe series while retaining its funny elements okay.

But making a live action dark archie series with adult tones like sex,murder and mystery this I don't like. And why people want to watch this type it's like the 90s again to the superheroes except this time its for the archie comics industry.I know change is good but making a live action and dark that's too much i prefer live action with a light tone and sitcom and if they want to aim for a live audience make a sitcom with a drama like scrubs did.

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on December 27, 2016, 05:25:06 PM
Never mind all that. I'm still waiting for a proper Archie animated series. The first one (produced by Filmation) came the closest, but that isn't saying much. Of the main five characters, about the only one whose personality came even remotely close to being captured by the cartoon was Reggie (at least he could be relied on to pull underhanded tricks and prank Archie). Did we see comical situations caused by Archie's accident-prone nature, his inability to choose between Betty & Veronica, his constant chasing after various girls, his misadventures working various jobs in an attempt to make enough cash to date Veronica? What about Archie's behavior constantly landing him in Detention, or him being a constant thorn in Mr. Lodge's side? What about Archie constantly chasing Veronica, while Betty constantly chased Archie? We did not see anything like that. Did we see episodes based on the contrasting nature of B & V's personalities? We did not. Did we see episodes based on Jughead's mooching, his willingness to do anything if there was a food reward involved, or his concentrated effort to avoid work? We did not. Did we see intense contests between Archie & Reggie over dating Veronica or Reggie's constantly outclassing Archie as more well-dressed, better in sports, with a nicer car and plenty of spending cash; B & V's rivalry over Archie, and the lengths each might go to, to gain the upper hand over the other; or the battle of wits between Jughead and Reggie? We did not. Besides the music, all we ever saw were generic comedy situations. That and lots and lots of Hot Dog's antics. The Filmation people absolutely loved Hot Dog... it was practically his show. Not surprisingly, since they were the ones who invented him.

You know maybe an animated archie cartoon would work let it air on maybe cartoon network,nickelodeon or maybe disney XD or disney channel and let it be faithful to the source material aimed for younger audience though i wish for a live action archie sitcom aimed for both older and younger audience .Then again nobody wish for a live action peanuts film, right?

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on December 27, 2016, 12:47:43 PM

Quote from: grubhead on December 25, 2016, 08:40:11 PM
Just watched the extended trailer. What do you think?

Disgusting.

I agree with you

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on December 27, 2016, 12:56:04 PM
I do agree that the Archie Action imprint is a good one for developing some of the more action-oriented versions of characters that are actually owned by ACP, because the cost of paying a licensing fee to the rights holders of videogame character francises is overhead that must be subtracted from the profit made on each title.

Yeah ,I agree so i think it's time that Archie comic should end their licensing deal with sega and focus on their orginal characters of archie comci by rebranding the new 'archie action.

Look what am I about to write is my opinion and it's about the sonic the hedgehog comic book series and the brand 'Archie action'.


As you know recent sonic the hedgehog comics no longer gain the popularity it once has  sales are probably low and most important of all people are no longer interested in licensed video game comic book series ..kind of. It makes me think that in about few years the sonic the hedgehog series is about to end or cancelled ,I mean look what happened to the Mega man comic book series it was good but  now it remains in hiatus which in my opinion is cancellation. Besides the Archie comics are currently focusing on rebooting the titles along with the Riverdale tv series.


So if the sonic the hedgehog comic book series is about to end in about few years after its long run probably that Sega ends their licensing with Archie comics , What going to happen to the Archie action brand.


Well here is my take on how the Archie action brand should be rebranded after the sonic comic ends ,Perhaps the red circle will be revived once again but this time as a full reboot not dc or marvel reboot type a clean reboot like the resurrected valiant did.
Or Maybe like the Archie horror brand which has its own universe since it is different from the main Archie series  but unlike the one which has horror it will be about action and adventure how about reviving three of the Archie action adventure titles set in a different Archie universe like Pureheart and the superteens, Explorers of the unknown and the man from Riverdale. I mean it might have some funny moments but it will be about action and adventure set in the different Archie universe .


So that's my take on the retool on Archie action brand in case the  sonic comic series ends, What do you think?

As we all  know the first live action Archie comics series Riverdale besides the unofficial ones like the Archie pilot from 1964,The variety show from 1978 and Archie: To Riverdale and Back Again pilot will air on CW and is based on the characters from the Archie comics.
It will be considered a 'mystery' teen drama series with you know 'adult actors' as teenagers it happens a lot to 'teen shows' who never have actual 'teen actors' like the ones from Disney channel and nickelodeon.
But there is one actual problem the main comic book series are Comedy besides the  dark horror ones which are okay since it is its own title. Comedy has been around in the Archie comic series since the beginning well besides it has superheroes when it was MLJ and has been always like that though they deal with teen issues and a bit drama.
Making a live action series based on a funny comic book property which is comedy and to be a dark teen drama series is a problem. Many Archie fanatics who read the comic book series will hate it and will earn mixed reviews and it will only last for one or two seasons.
So I thought maybe I am going to explain my take on a proper live action Archie live action series,
If the series is family oriented then the role of the Archie characters should be played by teens but it should not be produced by it's a laugh productions who made most of the Disney teens sitcoms and it must be different from regular nick sitcoms if its aired on nickelodeon or at least let the Archie sitcom air on Netflix or any web network channels.
But if the series is aimed for older audience then let the characters be played by actual aged teen actors or maybe older actors instead like most 'teen shows' do but let it be sitcom or at least a drama comedy series like scrubs where it will probably involve daily teen problems and stuff including LGBT and it should be aired on MTV or maybe Netflix or some other web channels.
So that's my take on a proper Archie live action series and the reason why I am saying this is that the Archie comic series are comedy including the reboot though it has drama elements since it has to tackle usual teen problems. But making a live action series based on a classic comedy comic book series and turn into a mystery teen drama series and air on CW which never airs sitcoms that's a big No-no.

This series is not the archie that we read from the series for many years (the main ones that is) 

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 02, 2016, 05:47:29 AMWell then, let me be the first to call dibs on the reintroduction of Bingo Wilkin (or possibly Wilbur Wilkin) as a werewolf in some future issue. 

Yeah that could work 

Quote from: The Downloader on September 02, 2016, 11:33:01 AMWhat If Cosmo somehow jumped in at the last minute, and saved everyone?  But, It turns out he's a suicide zombie and crashes them into Mars, and MARS is over-run by zombies, and now they have to survive ZOMBIES ON MARS!

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on September 02, 2016, 03:43:05 PMOr what if the zombies (being notoriously poor nuclear engineers) cause a meltdown at the Riverdale Nuclear Power Plant just as Super Duck arrives, he gets irradiated, and turns into a rampaging (that's normal for him) radioactive giant Duckzilla?

Quote from: SAGG on September 03, 2016, 04:33:22 AMAnd just for that, you'll get the gold straight jacket...

Quote from: PTF on September 03, 2016, 09:40:59 AM
I'm not crazy. Now if I said something like, "Afterlife with Archie will keep to it's schedule." Then I'd need relocation to a padded room.

Why do you make silly ideas with jokes 

Quote from: irishmoxie on September 03, 2016, 11:30:33 AMLoved this issue which I picked up just because I'm a Pussycats fan. I only read the first 4 or 5 issues of Afterlife but I didn't have any problems following the story here. The next issue where the Pussycats visit Riverdale I'll definitely be reading.

Yeah that might happen.

Quote from: The Downloader on September 02, 2016, 12:47:39 AM
I predicted it awhile ago (before the original ACFF crashed)  around issue #7

Really,woah good guess 

Now what i am about to write is considered ridiculous but what i am writing is that I correctly predicted that josie and the pussycats in afterlife with archie #10 is spoiler alert a vampire. And why I guessed it  because though i never read the issue i looked at the previews few months before  the "words" and i saw the cover with bats all over it ,though i wrongly predict that they will be considered 'werecats' instead.

So did anyone predict they are vampires too before the issue release.

Quote from: steveinthecity on July 26, 2016, 08:17:51 PM

Quote from: terrence12 on July 25, 2016, 12:28:26 PM
This is a variant cover i made for Betty and Veronica by Adam Hughes though not considered official i just made it by myself to show you guys what you think of it.

Glad to see you're still working on your art!  Keep at it.  Veronica's balled fists are a nice touch, and of course Betty's ponytail makes her identifiable.

WOW! thanks.I am glad you liked it 

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on July 19, 2016, 01:37:35 PM
Riverdale TV show that will not be a hit and will get cancelled soon  *crosses fingers*

Same here,chum 

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie
Oh, yeah. That's right. He won't be a blond, though? That's weird.

Actually i think it's reggie.

This is a variant cover i made for Betty and Veronica by Adam Hughes though not considered official i just made it by myself to show you guys what you think of it.










Now recently the current art style for archie comics are considered realistic though they still got their "comedy" feeling  except the first official live action series RIVERDALE which will air on CW as it will be a teen drama/mystery series that is not faithful to the main archie series (shouldn't they  at least make it a teen comedy sitcom and maybe air on MTV)


Anyway I decided to make a variant cover but make the girls betty and veronica look cartoon like since the male classic archie characters( most of them) look cartoon like and they don't wear some "lipsticks" besides it's a "Funny comic book"


This variant cover i made shows betty hugging her best friend  veronica from behind  unaware that veronica looks angry at her and felt she would kill her according to her thoughts from her head.


Unlike other variant covers  which has the duo secretly battle each other and are considered frenemies,This cover depicted them as an odd Couple with Betty just a honest average girl while betty is considered a rich jerk with a heart of gold but couldn't stand hanging out with a common girl like betty .


The cover may not have color just a sketch drawing but  i attached it to a blank variant cover with photoshop.Also i made a signature in it.