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Captain Jetpack

hOW i WISH--
« on: September 22, 2017, 07:31:47 am »
that IDW & Archie would come out with more Golden Age collection of their newspaper strips.
3 ain't enough.
Pie is my favorite Vitamin.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: hOW i WISH--
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2017, 11:38:44 am »
that IDW & Archie would come out with more Golden Age collection of their newspaper strips.
3 ain't enough.

I was curious about why they didn't just continue from where they left off with the first volume, in the late 1940s. I was amazed at how quickly Montana mastered the difficult balance between an ongoing continuity while still providing the requisite gag-a-day, certainly no easy task.

I enjoyed the later volumes from the so-called "Swingin' Sixties" less than the 1940s one, because by that time, the strip had dropped all pretense at any attempt to carrying on a running plotline. I also think IDW did itself a disservice by subtitling those volumes as they did, as all that tended to do was point out how hopelessly UN-Swingin' that particular comic strip was in comparison to its times. Those volumes were all right, but pale by comparison to the first one from the 40s. Perhaps the title "The Swingin' Sixties" on those two hardcovers set up some expectation in my mind that the strip would feel very contemporary to the trends of its time, which I'm sorry to say couldn't be further from the case. It's a misnomer to begin with, as when the phrase is used, it's generally referring only to the mid-to-late 1960s period (post-Beatles, but pre-Woodstock) in America, and the strips barely get as far as 1964 in the second of the two volumes, and really don't reflect the changes in youth culture -or the culture at large- much at all (certainly less than the comic books do). I do however recommend the color volume of "Archie's Sunday Finest" strips, which while unfortunately more of a "best of" collection than a complete one, and also having no continuity from week to week, is still quite good.

The greater irony there was that we can't get a chronological hardcover collection of 1960s Archie comic BOOK stories for love of money.  >:(

Sales might have been low by comparison to other Library of American Comics strip collections, and/or the difficulty and expense of locating all the necessary strips in good enough condition for reproduction, or a combination of those two factors.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2017, 12:48:59 pm by DeCarlo Rules »

ASS-P

Re: hOW i WISH--
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2017, 01:31:18 pm »
...What you said, regarding ;D  the different " 6Ts "...Myself, I tend to see it as " the 1960s " early on...then " Sixties " (maaaan :D ) once we get to fifty-years-ago this year or so.
  The thing is, I sorta recall, as someone whose parents had our area's local paper wbich carried Archie home-delivered when Montana was alive and (already a comic fan) read it there...I think the strip, at the turn of the Seventies, tended to feature frequently featued jokes from an " older generation " perspective that rather PUT DOWN things associated with " the younger generation "! ;D  As did many newspaper strips then, aimed at the older folks who bought the newspaper (and the feature editors at thd papers who keep the gates), after all...I think that, when Doonesbury (With it originally being about Mike and company being college students who were (mostly) in " the movement ".) came along in 1970 or so it was rather a different thing! (This was maybe more a suggestion of someone else who said this, I don't REALLY remember umpty-ump daily strips that I read back when Richard Nixon was President!!... :o ) I was there so I don't remember the Sixties! :buck2:
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« Last Edit: September 29, 2017, 01:34:45 pm by ASS-P »

DeCarlo Rules

Re: hOW i WISH--
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2017, 03:15:44 am »
...What you said, regarding ;D  the different " 6Ts "...Myself, I tend to see it as " the 1960s " early on...then " Sixties " (maaaan :D ) once we get to fifty-years-ago this year or so.
  The thing is, I sorta recall, as someone whose parents had our area's local paper wbich carried Archie home-delivered when Montana was alive and (already a comic fan) read it there...I think the strip, at the turn of the Seventies, tended to feature frequently featued jokes from an " older generation " perspective that rather PUT DOWN things associated with " the younger generation "! ;D  As did many newspaper strips then, aimed at the older folks who bought the newspaper (and the feature editors at thd papers who keep the gates)

It wasn't JUST the comic strip Archie which was conservative though... regardless of whether the conservatism is attributable to Bob Montana (who graduated from high school in 1940, after all, and lived in a small rural town in southern New Hampshire for the entire time he worked on the strip), or to newspaper or syndicate editors. You are absolutely correct about Doonesbury being the comic strip to break the monopoly of conservatism in newspaper strips.

Archie Comic Publications, up until very recently was positioned as an "arch"-conservative publisher of comic books for nearly all of its history. But that was particularly true up through at least the mid-1960s, and it's fair enough to say it applies to all of the Sixties, and to a lesser degree for the next four decades beyond that. There are numerous examples to be found in the stories of commentaries regarding the company's viewpoint on contemporary music (true up until the time when The Archies became a moneymaker for the company), "modern art" and "pop art", and beatniks and hippies and countercultural types of every stripe. There were absolutely no black characters (or indeed ANY non-Caucasian characters) appearing in Archie Comics stories until the company was compelled to incorporate Valerie (an invention of Hanna-Barbera Studios' writer/animators) into its changed-direction JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS comic. In his book Twelve Cent Archie, Bart Beaty is quick to point to many specific examples of stories which mock nontraditional ideas and the people behind them as charlatans and phonies.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2017, 03:25:03 am by DeCarlo Rules »

 


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