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  • Tuxedo Mark: And another one: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:42:07 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: Riverdale spoof: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Roughing It!" from B&V Friends #262: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:12:53 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: @irishmoxie -- It's definitely complete. All six of the 1958-59 Sy Reit/Bob White original issues, plus the feature-length "Good Guys of the Galaxy" by Tom DeFalco & Fernando Ruiz from ARCHIE #655, and three 5-page digest shorts that guest-starred Cosmo -- and the complete first issue of the Ian Flynn/Tracy Yarley COSMO (2017) thrown in for good measure. It follows the same layout/format as the previous JUGHEAD'S TIME POLICE, even though that didn't carry the "Archie Comics Presents..." trade dress. Not a bad buy for $11.
    June 14, 2018, 01:08:59 AM
  • irishmoxie: Anyone get the Cosmo book that came out today? Any good?
    June 13, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
  • Cosmo: Ah man....and I was worried I was the last enthusiast for ERB's stuff. I'm currently rereading my Dell Tarzan books. Really good fun! It took a while to complete that run.
    June 12, 2018, 06:51:53 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: ...Marvel's earlier JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS in there, so the DE Tarzan comics need to go in a different box, and SHEENA (also a recent DE title) and DC's RIMA THE JUNGLE GIRL will help fill up that box.
    June 11, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Recently. DE's unauthorized LORD OF THE JUNGLE Tarzan adaptations (and its authorized THE GREATEST ADVENTURE) won't fit into my existing box of previous Tarzan comics from Gold Key, DC, and Dark Horse, so I have to start a new box. Logically these get filed with DE's unauthorized WARLORD OF MARS comics (including DEJAH THORIS) and their authorized JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS. But I also want to squeeze Marve;
    June 11, 2018, 07:38:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Interesting. I tend not to group titles by publisher at all, if the characters were not created as work-for-hire (meaning the publisher is legally considered the 'author' of the character). Do they belong to that publisher's "universe" (assuming it has one)? There are some publishers like Dynamite Entertainment where the vast majority of the titles they publish are licensed, and thus were "inherited" from other publishers. Therefore it makes more sense to me to group them together in boxes with similar characters. Flash Gordon, The Phantom, and Mandrake comics (regardless of who the actual publisher was) go together in the same box because they're all classic adventure heroes licensed from Hearst Entertainment (formerly King Features Syndicate). Pulp fiction heroes like The Shadow, Doc Savage, and The Spider (regardless of the fact that the latter did not originate with the same publisher as the first two) also get grouped together. Space considerations allowing, Tarzan (and other Edgar Rice Burroughs adaptations) might share the same box with Sheena and Rima, but NOT with Ka-Zar, because he's a Marvel Universe character.
    June 11, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
  • rusty: I do keep all Star Trek series together in their own section and all Star Wars books together.  I also keep all 2000AD titles together and manga books get their own section.  For titles that have switched publishers, I usually keep them all with the publisher that I identify them with the most.  Tarzan has been published by a variety of publishers, but I keep them with Dell/Gold Key.  Conan is starting to get a bit close with all the success Dark Horse has had, but I still identify Conan more with Marvel.
    June 11, 2018, 06:27:26 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Believe it or not, I even have a box labeled "Pseudo-manga" that contains comics published by American companies and created by American creators like Astro Boy & Racer X (Now Comics), Battle of the Planets (Gold Key & Top Cow/Image), Captain Harlock (Malibu), Godzilla (Dark Horse) and Ultraman. I just want to keep those separate from the boxes of real translated manga in floppy comic format.
    June 11, 2018, 03:34:17 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Well. the problem is when you get titles with licensed characters that aren't owned by the publisher. So if you collect Star Trek comics, you'd have different series published by Gold Key, Marvel, DC, and IDW (and I probably missed one in there). It doesn't make sense to me to put them in different boxes by publisher, but to each his own. Disney comics would be another example. There are even some instances where if I like a certain artist enough, I will put all his work regardless of publisher or characters into one box, like Paul Gulacy, Steve Rude, or Mike Allred (and file them chronologically from older to newer, rather than alphabetically). Those are examples where my interest in the creator far exceeds my relative interest in whatever characters are involved.
    June 11, 2018, 03:14:29 PM
  • rusty: That makes sense.  There are many ways that people can file books.  What I do is file by company or category and then alphabetically within each section.  My first category is Richie Rich then Archie, then other Harvey titles, then Disney, then other humor/kids books, then by company (unless it is a company where I don't have very many books from them.  Star Trek and Star Wars each get their own section as well.  I will probably revamp a bit when I do my next major sort/merge.  The biggest section by far for me is DC.
    June 11, 2018, 09:28:59 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: I don't even file my comics alphabetically. I file them according to how closely they're related to other titles, but it's all dependent on the number of issues I have of any given title, and what will fit into a single box. Fpr ACP comics I just put all the short-run series (whether an actual miniseries or just a not particularly successful title) into one box. Even though some of those short run series star Jughead, and I could as easily file those together with the main JUGHEAD title in another box. For longer running ACP titles, "girl" titles are sorted into different boxes than "boy" titles. Eventually when I have enough issues of BETTY (and BETTY AND ME and BETTY'S DIARY) they'll get their own box, and VERONICA will get her own box.
    June 10, 2018, 09:49:06 AM
  • rusty: I file Jughead under J and Reggie under R in all of their incarnations, though I do file the original Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen books under S since that keeps them with the Superman books and also because they kept that title throughout their entire run.  If anyone wants to look up Jughead or Reggie in Overstreet, though, they will have to look under A for the early issues.
    June 10, 2018, 07:56:27 AM
  • BettyReggie: I can't wait to get that Reggie book. It's coming out the day after my 39th Birthday.
    June 10, 2018, 06:42:06 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Yeah, I never understood why publishers felt the need to point that out on the covers of a comic book, like maybe someone didn't really know who REGGIE was, and might buy it just because they noticed the words "Archie's Rival" above the big letters that spelled REGGIE? Same with "Archie's Pal" or "Superman's Pal" or "Superman's Girl Friend" -- like some potential buyer wouldn't know who Jughead, Jimmy Olsen, or Lois Lane was, but would know who Archie or Superman was? Just assume you're selling the product to idiots, I guess. Is anyone really filing REGGIE under "A" for Archie's Pal in their collections??
    June 10, 2018, 05:42:02 AM
  • rusty: In it's first incarnation, Reggie was titled ARCHIE'S RIVAL, REGGIE.  It wasn't until after the title was resurrected nearly a decade later that it became REGGIE and then REGGIE AND ME.
    June 09, 2018, 10:23:13 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: I've never understood why those old titles had "and Me" in them, anyway. Why not just name the titles after the starring characters?
    June 09, 2018, 08:17:45 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Funny that the trade paperback collection is entitled REGGIE AND ME Vol. 1, when his floppy comic book series was actually titled just plain REGGIE for the first 18 issues (and going on hiatus for nine years in between issues #14 and 15). Since it's only a 224-page book, that should mean we'll be seeing reprints of stories from the first 9 (or maybe 10) issues. So shouldn't it be titled REGGIE Vol. 1? Unless they actually do plan to start the first volume with issue #19 from 1966 (the first classic Evilheart issue) where the title actually changed to REGGIE AND ME. My theory is that the ME in that title = Evilheart, unlike the prior titles ARCHIE AND ME (where ME = Mr. Weatherbee), or BETTY AND ME (where the ME = Archie).
    June 09, 2018, 12:59:59 PM


Author Topic: hOW i WISH--  (Read 939 times)

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Captain Jetpack

hOW i WISH--
« on: September 22, 2017, 07:31:47 AM »
that IDW & Archie would come out with more Golden Age collection of their newspaper strips.
3 ain't enough.
Pie is my favorite Vitamin.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: hOW i WISH--
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2017, 11:38:44 AM »
that IDW & Archie would come out with more Golden Age collection of their newspaper strips.
3 ain't enough.

I was curious about why they didn't just continue from where they left off with the first volume, in the late 1940s. I was amazed at how quickly Montana mastered the difficult balance between an ongoing continuity while still providing the requisite gag-a-day, certainly no easy task.

I enjoyed the later volumes from the so-called "Swingin' Sixties" less than the 1940s one, because by that time, the strip had dropped all pretense at any attempt to carrying on a running plotline. I also think IDW did itself a disservice by subtitling those volumes as they did, as all that tended to do was point out how hopelessly UN-Swingin' that particular comic strip was in comparison to its times. Those volumes were all right, but pale by comparison to the first one from the 40s. Perhaps the title "The Swingin' Sixties" on those two hardcovers set up some expectation in my mind that the strip would feel very contemporary to the trends of its time, which I'm sorry to say couldn't be further from the case. It's a misnomer to begin with, as when the phrase is used, it's generally referring only to the mid-to-late 1960s period (post-Beatles, but pre-Woodstock) in America, and the strips barely get as far as 1964 in the second of the two volumes, and really don't reflect the changes in youth culture -or the culture at large- much at all (certainly less than the comic books do). I do however recommend the color volume of "Archie's Sunday Finest" strips, which while unfortunately more of a "best of" collection than a complete one, and also having no continuity from week to week, is still quite good.

The greater irony there was that we can't get a chronological hardcover collection of 1960s Archie comic BOOK stories for love of money.  >:(

Sales might have been low by comparison to other Library of American Comics strip collections, and/or the difficulty and expense of locating all the necessary strips in good enough condition for reproduction, or a combination of those two factors.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2017, 12:48:59 PM by DeCarlo Rules »

ASS-P

Re: hOW i WISH--
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2017, 01:31:18 PM »
...What you said, regarding ;D  the different " 6Ts "...Myself, I tend to see it as " the 1960s " early on...then " Sixties " (maaaan :D ) once we get to fifty-years-ago this year or so.
  The thing is, I sorta recall, as someone whose parents had our area's local paper wbich carried Archie home-delivered when Montana was alive and (already a comic fan) read it there...I think the strip, at the turn of the Seventies, tended to feature frequently featued jokes from an " older generation " perspective that rather PUT DOWN things associated with " the younger generation "! ;D  As did many newspaper strips then, aimed at the older folks who bought the newspaper (and the feature editors at thd papers who keep the gates), after all...I think that, when Doonesbury (With it originally being about Mike and company being college students who were (mostly) in " the movement ".) came along in 1970 or so it was rather a different thing! (This was maybe more a suggestion of someone else who said this, I don't REALLY remember umpty-ump daily strips that I read back when Richard Nixon was President!!... :o ) I was there so I don't remember the Sixties! :buck2:
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« Last Edit: September 29, 2017, 01:34:45 PM by ASS-P »

DeCarlo Rules

Re: hOW i WISH--
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2017, 03:15:44 AM »
...What you said, regarding ;D  the different " 6Ts "...Myself, I tend to see it as " the 1960s " early on...then " Sixties " (maaaan :D ) once we get to fifty-years-ago this year or so.
  The thing is, I sorta recall, as someone whose parents had our area's local paper wbich carried Archie home-delivered when Montana was alive and (already a comic fan) read it there...I think the strip, at the turn of the Seventies, tended to feature frequently featued jokes from an " older generation " perspective that rather PUT DOWN things associated with " the younger generation "! ;D  As did many newspaper strips then, aimed at the older folks who bought the newspaper (and the feature editors at thd papers who keep the gates)

It wasn't JUST the comic strip Archie which was conservative though... regardless of whether the conservatism is attributable to Bob Montana (who graduated from high school in 1940, after all, and lived in a small rural town in southern New Hampshire for the entire time he worked on the strip), or to newspaper or syndicate editors. You are absolutely correct about Doonesbury being the comic strip to break the monopoly of conservatism in newspaper strips.

Archie Comic Publications, up until very recently was positioned as an "arch"-conservative publisher of comic books for nearly all of its history. But that was particularly true up through at least the mid-1960s, and it's fair enough to say it applies to all of the Sixties, and to a lesser degree for the next four decades beyond that. There are numerous examples to be found in the stories of commentaries regarding the company's viewpoint on contemporary music (true up until the time when The Archies became a moneymaker for the company), "modern art" and "pop art", and beatniks and hippies and countercultural types of every stripe. There were absolutely no black characters (or indeed ANY non-Caucasian characters) appearing in Archie Comics stories until the company was compelled to incorporate Valerie (an invention of Hanna-Barbera Studios' writer/animators) into its changed-direction JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS comic. In his book Twelve Cent Archie, Bart Beaty is quick to point to many specific examples of stories which mock nontraditional ideas and the people behind them as charlatans and phonies.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2017, 03:25:03 AM by DeCarlo Rules »

 


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