Thursday 05/19- ARCHIE BY BOB MONTANA: THE COMPLETE NEWSPAPER COMICS 1963-1965 (started)
Friday 05/20- WORLD OF ARCHIE SUMMER ANNUAL #59
Saturday 05/21 -  ARCHIE BY BOB MONTANA: THE COMPLETE NEWSPAPER COMICS 1963-1965 (finished)

Quote from: daren on May 21, 2016, 07:40:36 PM
I like to think of him as aromantic but I know he isn't completely. There's been at least ten stories or so where he's heteroromantic, not much but even a small amount makes a difference.

Only TEN? There's way more than that. A drop in the bucket compared to the preponderance of Jughead stories that show the complete opposite, but still. There's almost 10 stories with him showing serious romantic attraction to January McAndrews alone. Plus all the other girls people would like to forget about, like Debbie & Dilly Dalton, Joani Jumpp, Anita Chavita, Sandy Sanchez and Sadie Cameron. Those last two are one-time appearances, but there must be dozens of random short stories with girls that Jughead was attracted to for that one story only.

Quote from: invisifan on May 21, 2016, 09:30:09 PM
Dilton has always been very interested — just totally clueless about what to do about it, and most girls don't get beyond his intimidating intellect or small stature to help him out ...

Except for those Joke Book 1 page and 1/2 page gags where the joke is always that there's some girl trying to cozy up to him and he's totally oblivious that she's inviting his affection. For some reason that one gag idea has been subjected to dozens of variations.

I liked it when he dated Cheryl for a bit.

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on May 21, 2016, 11:18:56 AM

Quote from: BettyReggie on May 21, 2016, 09:32:50 AM
I used have a thread that made called Show Us Your Archie Collection. I loved posting pictures on that thread but now it's too hard to post pictures there now. So now I just post pictures of my wall that has 12 comic frames on my Twitter page. I update it a lot so can what comics I hang up.

It's not hard to post pics here. Just follow the instructions DeCarlo Rules gave you on another thread

The new uploading process works well once you figure out the correct order to the steps, but where all the places to click are isn't the most intuitive layout. Order of steps+location of buttons seems to be confusing and confounding some people. It does require some little patience at first... many might just give up too soon. Then there's the upward/downward navigation in the folders itself, and a few leftover annoying bits like the folders' insistence on self-organization by way of last item uploaded first. (You can change the sort order when looking at it, but it seems like there's no way to save those preferences). Then there's the business of looking through items in the folder, and how do you copy the address of the full size image to paste into a post for display? Again, not the most intuitive system. I've figured it out, but I can see where someone less persistent would just get frustrated at one detail they can't seem to figure and just quit.

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on May 21, 2016, 11:59:48 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 20, 2016, 03:40:34 PM

Quote from: 60sBettyandReggie on May 20, 2016, 01:06:35 PM
Why do they have to taint something that has been funny, and cute and wholesome for 75 years? Seriously leave it alone!!

JULY 2007 - "A Dynamic NEW LOOK!" debuts with BETTY AND VERONICA DOUBLE DIGEST #151 - "Bad Boy Trouble!"
.....

I was thinking about this the other day. What was the difference between the "Bad Boy Trouble" and this new Archie reboot? Why didn't they stick to that new look back then? Why just now?

Note that the New Look unfolded entirely in the pages of Archie digests. It was aimed at only a slightly higher age bracket than traditional digests (which should be apparent from the writing if you've read them).  At the time, ACP was dipping a measly pinky toe into chilly waters, unwilling to unwaveringly take the plunge into the pool. No willful commitment and even less marketing savvy on that one. There was a brief "slow news day" kerplunk in the general media consciousness, which then quickly lost interest, along with the digest readers.


Now at least they have a solid idea of the market they're trying to aim for (not the digest readers of a couple of years ago), but I still think their vision is a little too blurry to possibly hit the target. This time they had to be thrown into the deep water by sheer desperation.

Quote from: invisifan on May 21, 2016, 12:38:40 PM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 21, 2016, 02:14:48 AM
Not all other companies are equal. I see vast differences in the publishing philosophies of Marvel & DC, Image and IDW and Dark Horse. Interestingly, DC is currently rebooting a bunch of Hanna-Barbera properties (Scooby-Doo Apocalypse, The Flintstones, Wacky Raceland) that seem to be informed by the same sensibilities as Archie's various retakes on its classic characters. I don't see IDW doing the same sort of Archie reboot that ACP is doing.

Marvel (who I love in general) would be a terrible fit for ACP — they would primarily be interested in the horror & dark circle lines and might continue an improved version of the reboot to see if it was marketable, but notice that after the initial hype even the "Star Wars" material there us being quietly phased out ...
   DC has a long history with the Dark Circle & other heroes — even tried to integrate them into the DCU at one point before the licensing agreements came apart ... those and the Horror titles might be shunted to Vertigo (and better treated) or introduced to their main line (which they've stsated will no longer be as concerned with continuity if the story is good ... 
   Image ... will never happen — they publish creator own material that they consider worthwhile — ACP is the antithesis of creator owned ...
   Dark Horse & IDW have a history with ACP on several levels and with the various types of material ACP publishes, from classic to reboot, horror and superhero, so either might be a good fit if they were willing and the finances could be worked out ...

I agree to a point, but IDW has more experience publishing all ages titles. The trick here is to market classic Archie to both nostalgic adults and to parental units willfully encouraging and sharing the comic book experience with their kids. Apart from the "Itty Bitty" titles by Art Baltazar, DH has little experience. Should they get hold of it, I'd be afraid they'd be more interested and inclined to expanding the Archie Horror titles into a mini-imprint ala ARCHIE VS PREDATOR.

Quote from: invisifan on May 21, 2016, 12:18:33 PM

Quote from: spazaru on May 21, 2016, 07:51:30 AM
I agree with that.  I guess I just think of bubblegum as bands that were studio musicians that didn't really play live or have personnel that everyone would recognize.   The Monkees just seemed out of place in this list.  But the way you explain it, it makes sense.

The number that had "names that you'd recognize" is far more extensive than most people realize 
Often the studio musicians  were future superstars who hadn't hit the big time yet (and this was part of their path to recognition) or even mid-level talent who moonlighting, with song from major players who wrote for the studios behind the scenes for years before going solo and producing their own material ...

Well, he did say "have personnel that everyone would recognize" (if they saw them). In the context of nobody knew who did the songs THEN. They still mostly don't NOW. But in retrospect, people would recognize the NAMES after the passage of time has made them famous... followed immediately by "HE did that? I never even knew...!" Point to spazaru.

Quote from: spazaru on May 21, 2016, 11:53:16 AM
Nesmith had written songs, including "Different Drum" that was a hit for Linda Ronstadt.  Also, even the first two Monkees albums had some original songs.  Nesmith wrote Papa Gene's Blues for the first and Mary Mary and The Kind of Girl I Could Love for the second.  In general, though, I get your point.  Throughout their career, some of my very favorite Monkees songs were originals, mostly by Nesmith but even Micky wrote a couple of good ones and so did Peter.

Nesmith's Elephant Parts conceptual music film was a big favorite of mine. In particular "Lucy & Ramona & Sunset Sam" (which received heavy rotation on the early MTV) and the lesser-known self-parody music video "Rodan" (satirizing his own song "Rosanne").

Quote from: rusty on May 21, 2016, 10:15:42 AM
This is an old list and doesn't include comics from the last few years or other Archie titles like Fly, Jaguar, Shield, etc.

Digests - all

Archie and Friends  1 to 159      A Halloween Tale mini
    & Shield Giveaway    A Timely Tale mini    Monsterbash 2003
Archie and His Pals in the Peer Helping Program
Archie and Me  1 to 161   
Archie Annual  1 to 26   
Archie as Pureheart the Powerful  1 to 6 
Archie at Riverdale High  1 to 113
Archie Comics  6 - 10 to 634   
Archie Free Comic Book Day Edition  1 - 2
Archie Giant Series  1 to 35 - 136 to 251 - 452 to 632   
Archie Meets the Punisher  1
Archie Presents The Mighty Archie Art Players  FCBD  1
Archie's Christmas Stocking  1 to 7
Archie's Explorers of the Unknown  1 to 6
Archie's Girls Betty and Veronica  1 to 347  Annual  1 to 8   
Archie's Ham Radio Adventure
Archie's Joke Book  1 to 3 - 15 to 288 
Archie's Love Showdown Special  1
Archie's Mechanics  1 to 3
Archie's Pals 'n' Gals  1 to 224   
Archie's RC Racers  1 to 10
Archie's 65th Anniversary Bash 1 (FCBD 2006)
Archie's Spring Break  1 to 5
Archie's Summer Splash  FCBD  1
Archie's Super Teens  1 to 4
Archie's TV Laugh-Out  1 to 105 
Archie's Vacation Special  1 to 8
Archie's Weird Mysteries  1 to 34    minis Halloween 99 - Video Monsters
Archie 3000  1 to 16
Betty  1 to 195
Betty and Me  1 to 200
Betty and Veronica  1 to 260    FCBD 1 (2005)
Betty and Veronica Spectacular  1 to 90
Betty and Veronica Summer Fun  1 to 6
Betty's Diary  1 to 40
The Carneys  1
Cheryl Blossom  (1st)  1 to 3   (2nd)  1 to 3   Special  1 to 4
    Hollywood  1 to 3       regular   1 to 37
Chilling Adventures in Sorcery  1 to 11
Cosmo  1 to 6
Dilton's Strange Science  1 to 5
Everything's Archie  1 to 157   
Faculty Funnies  1 to 5
Ginger  7 - 8
Hot Dog  1 to 5
Jackpot  6 - 9
Josie 1 to 106  vl.2  1 - 2       
Jughead  1 to 352   Annual  1 to 8     vl.2  1 to 213      FCBD 2008 
Jughead as Captain Hero  1 to 7
Jughead's Baby Tales  1 - 2
Jughead's Diner  1 to 7
Jughead's Fantasy  1 to 3
Jughead's Folly  1
Jughead's Jokes  1 to 78 
Jughead's Soul Food
Jughead's Time Police  1 to 6
Kevin Keller  1 to 3
Laugh  20 to 59 - 61 to 63 - 65 to 133 - 135 to 400  vl.2  1 to 29   
Life With Archie  1 to 286 
Little Ambrose  1
Little Archie  1 to 180  FCBD 2007
Little Archie in Animal Land  1 - 17 to 19
Little Archie Mystery  1 - 2
Li'l Jinx  11 to 16 - 33 to 43 
Madhouse  1 to 130     Annual  1 to 12   
More Seymour  1
New Archies  1 to 22
Official Soupy Sales Comic  1
Pat the Brat/Pipsqueak   1 - 16 - 18 - 19 - 22 - 23 - 25 - 26 - 28 - 29 - 31 - 33 - 34 - 37 - 38
Pep  24 - 54 to 56 - 58 - 61 - 63 - 64 - 66 - 67 - 69 to 124 - 126 to 411   FCBD  2011
Reggie and Me  1 to 126 
Reggie's Revenge  1 to 3
Reggie's Wise Guy Jokes  1 to 55 
Riverdale High  1 to 8
Sabrina  1 to 77      vl.2   1     vl.3   1 to 32     vl.4  1 to 104
Sabrina's Halloween Spoooktacular  1 to 3
Seymour My Son  1
Spire -    Archie and Big Ethel
    Archie and Mr. Weatherbee
    Archie Gets a Job
    Archie's Car  1
    Archie's Circus
    Archie's Clean Slate  1
    Archie's Date Book
    Archie's Family Album
    Archie's Festival
    Archie's Love Scene
    Archie's One Way
    Archie's Parables  1
    Archie's Roller Coaster
    Archie's Something Else
    Archie's Sonshine
    Archie's Sports Scene
    Archie's World
    Christmas with Archie  1
Suzie    57 to 61 - 66 - 67 - 72 - 73 - 76 - 77 - 79 - 84 - 92 - 94 - 97 - 100
Tales Calculated to Drive You Bats  1 - 3 to 6
TMNT meet Archie
That Wilkin Boy  1 to 52
To Riverdale and Back Again
Triple Action Giant Comics  1
Veronica  1 to 210
Whiz Kids Community Action Program/Archie and the History of Electronics
Wilbur  2 to 6 - 9 - 11 - 13 to 23 - 25 to 28 - 30 to 32 - 35 to 40 - 42 to 44 - 46 to 50 - 52 to 57 - 59 - 61 - 65 - 70 - 71 - 75 - 77 - 87 to 90
World of Archie  1 to 22
Young Dr. Masters  1 - 2

Despite the seeming length of that list, it's shorter than I would have imagined it to be. It just gives some perspective on the relative proportions of the company's publishing output over 75 years, compared to other companies like DC and Marvel that have been around as long. I wouldn't doubt that even relatively younger publishers like Dark Horse, Image and IDW's output dwarfs it as well.


Still an impressive job of assembling all that, though. I think it's probably safe to declare you the winner by a wide margin.

Quote from: Mazz on May 21, 2016, 08:22:20 AM
Didn't get to go to the local comic store for Free Comic Book Day this year. I wouldn't have picked up Archie #1 anyway, but it would have been nice to check some of the other stuff and maybe buy some comics if they had some older Sabrina stuff. I guess I can do that any day though with less crowds.

Most LCSs use FCBD as an excuse to run a sale, so it's worth braving the crowds. Besides, it's fun to hobnob with fellow comic book fans and collectors, or just interested newbies. Some stores run it as an annual party with refreshments and contests and other associated events.

Quote from: Mazz on May 21, 2016, 08:28:22 AM
From seeing the sneak peak of the trailer before it was taking down what really gets me down about this whole thing is when they are taking out the whole "innocence" of Riverdale. Archie comics and Riverdale is innocence and this show seems to be far from what the comics have established for so many decades.

I'm just going to chalk that up to your not having paid that close attention to the information trickling out about Riverdale up to this point. It's a pretty short hop between travesty and tragedy for fans of classic Archie Comics. Why would ACP allow it? They've abandoned any hope of fidelity to the spirit of the original comics. At this point they're just hoping to get some notoriety for generating shock waves. It's the old concept of "no such thing as BAD publicity".


"Archie Comics? Do they still make those??"

Quote from: spazaru on May 21, 2016, 07:51:30 AM
I agree with that.  I guess I just think of bubblegum as bands that were studio musicians that didn't really play live or have personnel that everyone would recognize.   The Monkees just seemed out of place in this list.  But the way you explain it, it makes sense.

We must acknowledge that there are really TWO groups of "The Monkees". Davy Jones, Mickey Dolenz, Peter Tork, and Mike Nesmith were four out of 437 young, photogenic, musical hopefuls who auditioned for parts in a television series about a fictional band named "The Monkees" that was produced by Bob Rafelson and Bert Schneider. During the active production of the series, they never played instruments on, or wrote any of the songs that actually appeared on the show's soundtrack (and the initial record releases of those songs). That task was given over to record producer Don Kirshner to handle, and he assembled a team of key studio musicians and his trusted team of songwriters, Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart. So it IS true that The Monkees that people saw on television were merely aspiring musicians working as actors. The REAL "Monkees" who made the music for television were unseen and unknown to the general public. The "actor Monkees" (meaning Jones, Dolenz, Tork and Nesmith) had no experience together as a band or as songwriters, and the demands of television production to produce pre-packaged songtracks on a regular weekly basis precluded the producers trusting them with this important musical aspect of the show. Later, as they were allowed to tour together and promote the show, they did gain experience together as an actual band, and were eventually allowed to contribute their own original songs to later album releases, beyond just playing the "sure fire winners" penned by Boyce and Hart.

Quote from: spazaru on May 21, 2016, 07:22:06 AM

Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 21, 2016, 06:47:34 AM
From my own MP3 album collection (mostly found and downloaded from blogs here'n'there), for the last couple of days/nights I've been listening to my own self-defined genre of "Saturday Morning Bubblegum Rock" that includes albums by:

Alvin and the Chipmunks
The Archies
The Banana Splits
The Groovie Goolies
The Hardy Boys
The Impossibles
Josie and the Pussycats
Lancelot Link and the Evolution Revolution
The Monkees
The Partridge Family
The Sugar Bears

Some great stuff but I have to say I don't consider The Monkees bubblegum.  In my opinion, they are one of the greatest bands ever, and I love the fact they were put together kind of as a bubblegum group but then asserted control and made their own kind of records.

I don't consider the term "bubblegum" derogative or any kind of judgment on the quality of the music. These are all "prefabricated" or fictional bands, dreamed up by record executives or television producers in an attempt to market to a demographic of young viewers/record consumers. Because these producers were well-connected they were able to recruit some extremely talented studio musicians or discover new talent.

The Monkees are great!

From my own MP3 album collection (mostly found and downloaded from blogs here'n'there), for the last couple of days/nights I've been listening to my own self-defined genre of "Saturday Morning Bubblegum Rock" that includes albums by:

Alvin and the Chipmunks
The Archies
The Banana Splits
The Groovie Goolies
The Hardy Boys
The Impossibles
Josie and the Pussycats
Lancelot Link and the Evolution Revolution
The Monkees
The Partridge Family
The Sugar Bears

P.S. These four images are all I could find of the story, and (I suspect) all that the author bothered to "adapt". If anyone knows of additional pages of this somewhere, please point me at them, or better yet post them here, and I'll incorporate them.