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#2086
All About Archie / Re: The Jughead/Veronica Feud
May 20, 2016, 05:27:20 AM
Quote from: daren on May 20, 2016, 03:56:24 AM
So we've been seeing a few pictures of these two Riverdale actors together at public events lately...







Do Jughead-Veronica feud fans want to see them feud on the show too, or is this whole trip so different that it doesn't matter to you? Because I know some of my usual inclinations are dead thanks to plot/casting decisions.

In the context of what I already know about Riverdale, it would seem like the most likely scenario would involve Veronica having sex with Jughead, but trying to keep the affair secret from everyone (or maybe it's Jughead who insists on keeping it secret). Just remember that in Riverdale, every day is "opposite day".
#2087
Well, I wouldn't NOT buy them just because IDW was the company publishing them. For the rest, it depends... on how they're written and drawn. I mean if IDW isn't just publishing new stories by the classic Archie writers and artists, but instead doing their own version of a reboot. If they merely continued the current version of Archie under the IDW imprint, then no.
#2088
Quote from: daren on May 20, 2016, 03:15:57 AM
(Scroll past the story about Moose)

No, I think people should definitely read "MOOSE!". While there's something slightly wonky about Chris Allen's artwork (characters expressions are frequently off-model), it proves that at least Mark Waid is capable of writing funny Archie stories if he sets out to do so. I doubt that he's lost the ability, so I guess someone (whether it was him or the editor) decided that it's not all that important that an Archie story be funny. Or maybe someone determined that it's important that Archie NOT be funny now, because the prospective audience they're trying to grab isn't really interested in "funny", except maybe as an afterthought.
#2089
Quote from: daren on May 19, 2016, 04:01:13 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 19, 2016, 06:55:02 AM
Quote from: daren on May 17, 2016, 04:05:32 PM
Right there, she has the personality to be the problem parent if Mark Waid wants Reggie to have one.

Problem parent? She's his mother -- of course she thinks the world of him. Let's just say she's got a less than objective picture of the real Reggie Mantle. It's a good bet he doesn't pull any of that underhanded crap on her and act like a conceited braggart around her.  All she's seeing here is Reggie as a talented writer/actor/director, something she can be proud of.

None of the other parents would react that way if their kid put on a play like that, come on.


None of them are star athletes with a roomful of trophies, either. All right, so he's got he snowed. She doesn't REALLY know her son. Not a crime. Yeah, maybe if she'd been reading the comics along with the rest of us, she'd know better. I have to assume she doesn't know Betty and Veronica from a hole in the wall. When have you ever seen the whole gang hanging out at Reggie's house?
#2090
All About Archie / Re: The Jughead/Veronica Feud
May 19, 2016, 07:11:51 AM
Quote from: daren on May 17, 2016, 04:00:59 PM


This is from a pretty good Veronica vs. Jughead story (well in a way) at this link: http://slaymonstrobot.blogspot.com/2015/11/manic-monday-bonus-jugheads-secret.html

Don't forget the moral of the story:
QuoteGive it up, Mark Waid--you'll never top that!!
#2091
Quote from: daren on May 17, 2016, 04:05:32 PM
Right there, she has the personality to be the problem parent if Mark Waid wants Reggie to have one.

Problem parent? She's his mother -- of course she thinks the world of him. Let's just say she's got a less than objective picture of the real Reggie Mantle. It's a good bet he doesn't pull any of that underhanded crap on her and act like a conceited braggart around her.  All she's seeing here is Reggie as a talented writer/actor/director, something she can be proud of.
#2092
Fan Fiction / Re: Fan Art Thread
May 19, 2016, 06:45:45 AM
Quote from: BlueBomber2015 on May 12, 2016, 03:25:59 AM
Can anyone help me on how to add pics?  I want to share with you guys my art.

Go to MEDIA>MY MEDIA and add an album. Once you've created an album and named it, you'll then be able to add pictures. You'll see this menu over on the right-hand side of the page once you're looking at the album:


Choose ADD ITEM to add a picture from your computer to your album. Choose ADD BULK ITEMS to add a lot of pictures at the same time. Once you've uploaded the picture(s), don't forget to add whatever descriptive notes you want and complete the action by clicking on the button at the bottom.
#2093
Quote from: invisifan on May 18, 2016, 04:12:18 PM
The joke would be her first exposure to Ms Beazley's cooking ... Everyone else has (presumably) built up a resistance ;)

That was a constant source of gags for Bob Montana's newspaper strip -- somewhat less so for classic Archie comic books.
#2094
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 18, 2016, 08:56:07 PM
Unbelievable amount of girlie comics coming out today:
Finding Molly #3
Disney Princess #3
Goldie Vance #2
Lumberjanes #26
Lumberjanes Special
Mae #1
Princeless Raven #8
Princeless Make Yourself #2
Strawberry Shortcake #2
Chilling Sabrina #5

And other light hearted comics:

Grumpy Cat #4
Puss in Boots #2
Mighty Zodiac #2

I don't know that Sabrina belongs anywhere on that list or that's there's anything particularly girlie about it, beyond the fact that the title character is female (but you left a lot of those books off the list). Point taken on the others.
#2095
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 18, 2016, 06:45:51 PM
A lot of what they're trying to publish now (or maybe just what I buy and am interested in) is stuff that doesn't get scanalated presumably to make the most profit.

The scanslations aren't being quelched by legal action on the part of the publishers (on either the Japanese or the U.S. side) because they don't really impact print sales of manga at all. To the contrary, they sort of test the waters for the popularity of any given manga with an English-reading audience. It's not like the publishers have any input into what gets scanslated; that's totally up to the devoted fans spending their own time and effort to do them. It's no different than the bootlegging of subtitled Japanese anime that hasn't been made available officially. UNlike that activity however, scanslations are a not-for-profit fan activity, and most scanslations get taken down and removed once the manga has received an official commerical English-language release, because the scanslators want to play fair, and encourage the U.S. publishers doing official English-language translations. On the other hand, sometimes existing deals between U.S. publishers (or the U.S. branch of a Japanese publisher) have their own ideas and vested interests in trying to translate things to English that aren't being driven strictly by keeping a finger on the pulse of English-speaking manga fans.
#2096
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 18, 2016, 01:55:59 PM
It's comedic. An instance of actual comedy in the reboot!


Unless it was a sloppy joe made with some really bad meat, or just a terrible home-made recipe or something, I assume the joke is that Veronica's palate is so accustomed to upper-crust cuisine that she finds "regular people food" totally inedible. I know I've seen the occasional instance of a vomiting joke in a classic Archie story or two, probably only modern ones though. Don't think I recall any instances of Veronica not being able to stomach the same kind of foods the other kids eat, though. She spends so much time at Pop Tate's, even if she would vastly prefer Gaston's cooking.
#2097
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 18, 2016, 01:53:42 PM
Yes I'm aware manga is originally published in magazines. They've tried a few of those magazines here but they usually fail. So all that's really left are the paperbacks or digital if you're an English reader.


Manga in the U.S. is an anomaly in comic publishing, because its adoption into Western culture is being driven by a bleeding-edge fandom of early adopters. They're the ones who buy the imported comics in the original Japanese, and have taken the trouble to learn Japanese themselves in order to read them. They're the scanslators and the people behind the publishing scene from whom the English-language manga publishers are taking their cues. What gets translated in the U.S. is a combination of that which has already proved popular in Japan (to the degree that it's universal, as opposed to culturally-specific), and what the hardcore manga fans who read Japanese are recommending to each other by word of mouth and the internet. A lot of them have even worked themselves into some key positions on the U.S. publishing side.
#2098
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 18, 2016, 01:57:13 PM
The only reason for me to read Jughead now is Sabrina.


More specifically, Sabrina as drawn by Derek Charm, as opposed to Sabrina as drawn by Erica Henderson. Erica has some talents, but they don't include drawing attractive looking people, female OR male. That's a real disadvantage for most comic books.
#2099
Quote from: spazaru on May 18, 2016, 12:42:48 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 18, 2016, 10:22:12 AM
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 18, 2016, 09:55:20 AM
Quote from: spazaru on May 18, 2016, 09:51:47 AM
Quote from: BettyReggie on May 18, 2016, 09:17:27 AM
I just read Jughead #6 my digital copy. It was just ok, I would give it a B. The other 5 issues were better. I can't we haven't seen Ethel in any of the issues. It seems like they really don't talk about Jughead not liking girls. He was friendly with Betty. And he really can't stand Veronica.


Maybe the new writer and artist will bring Ethel in

I was re-reading Archie and I saw Ethel in a background in a scene. I believe it's the one where Veronica vomits up the sloppy joe.


I was just saying to myself the other day, "You know, there just isn't enough vomiting in comics." Good to see that ACP's addressing that.

Me too!  It's amazing we were thinking the same thing.


Were you also thinking that Veronica was bulemic? Oh, I suppose they might just be trying for physical comedy in that scene (who made the sloppy joe, Pop Tate?), but with the reboot you never know. Bulemia just seems more angst-y, so it would fit. Or maybe it does play as comedy in that scene, and it's only the setup; the angst comes later when it's discovered that she's actually bulemic. I obviously haven't read it, so I'm trying to visualize the context.
#2100
Quote from: spazaru on May 18, 2016, 12:42:11 PM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on May 18, 2016, 12:00:09 PM
QuoteJughead #9
(It's kind of like a) BRAND NEW #1... except it's issue #9! SABRINA makes her debut in the NEW RIVERDALE and things are about to get INSANE! New story!  New arc!  New creative team! Pop Tate's has a new mascot: it's a lady in a burger costume with a giant burger for a head!  And she never takes off that giant burger head!  And she and Jughead really hit it off, probably for that very reason! But is it possible Burger Lady is MORE than she appears? Find out what happens when Jughead meets a burger he REALLY likes—and a POWERFUL and unexpected new force in Riverdale is revealed!! P.S.: that powerful and unexpected new force is SABRINA THE TEENAGE WITCH!  SHE'S the Burger Lady!


After reading the solicitation, it almost seems like reading the story when it actually comes out is a mere formality. Such suspense. Right around the sentence where they said "she never takes off that giant burger head", I started thinking "I bet it turns out to be Sabrina"... and I was right. At least I didn't have to wait 2 months for that satisfaction. OR maybe it would be more satisfying if they didn't just tell you the plot ahead of time.


That doesn't necessarily ruin a story.  I watched every episode of Colombo even though I knew he was gonna catch the murderer.  It was just a question of how.


So your argument here would be the actual reason to read the comic now is to see whether Sabrina (A) just put on a costume supplied to her by the burger restaurant, but never takes off the giant burger head, or (B) she actually used witchcraft to change herself into a hamburger with a giant burger head? Not comparable to knowing that in every story that Sabrina appears, she's going to use magic somehow, but it's just a question of how. That thing with the costume is a little too specific, like someone telling you some twist of the plot in an episode of Colombo before you ever watched it. I'd say the point here is that now when you actually read the story, the minute the Burger Lady appears, you already know beforehand that it's Sabrina in the costume. Not quite the same thing.