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#2191
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 09, 2016, 10:40:11 AM
Lots of parodies in The Mighty Archie Art Players stories from Laugh and of course TV Laugh Out.


Here's GCD's listing. You may have some of the others. That would make a great digital exclusive collection.
#2192
Quote from: BlueBomber2015 on May 09, 2016, 05:39:48 AM
I need to catch up on my Mega Man by hunting down the final issues they had, after completing The Ultimate Betrayal arc, I forgot to read the Worlds Unite arc, so I have to fish out for back issues.


You can just skip the crossover and go straight to the last 3 issues. I did and it doesn't feel like there's anything missing in between there.
I'd be shocked if MM ever actually came back. I don't think it'll happen. I doubt the last three issues will be collected in trade paperback, either.

They cancelled the MEGA MAN MASTER EDITION VOLUME 1 collection, which would have been in the Best of Archie Comics format.
#2193
Quote from: Fernando Ruiz on May 09, 2016, 10:25:50 AM
Quote from: BettyReggie on May 07, 2016, 11:14:21 PM
Are any comics that you had read that you have given up on?


I gave up reading Archie comics.


Can't say I blame you. You probably already read practically all the good one.
#2194
Quote from: BlueBomber2015 on May 09, 2016, 06:15:53 AM
Well folks, now that we have a new, sick, twisted, disturbing more-like-Twin Peaks-Than-Archie Riverdale TV show on the horizon, might as well compare it to 1990's To Riverdale and Back Again (AKA Return to Riverdale, the butchered home video version.)


Compare away!


YOU, sir, have insulted the honor of Twin Peaks!!  I demand a duel!  You may have your choice of weapons.
#2195
Quote from: BlueBomber2015 on May 09, 2016, 06:21:16 AM
Back when I was a newbie before everything fell apart in the Server Purge, I browsed many topics, including ones dedicated to parodies in Mad Magazine and other publications (including the infamous Goodman Goes Playboy parody) and crossover appearances, while i created a cameo thread.  Then, the purge came, and now that we're getting things slowly back together, might as well merge all the threads into another all-in-one super thread!


This thread will talk about parodies (mainstream and underground), crossovers (official and unofficial) and cameos (Simpsons cameos, MLP cameos, etc) that were discussed in separate threads before the server crashed.  Enjoy!


Haven't you heard about the TV pilot Archie parody called Riverdale?  From the sounds of it, there should be some hilarious satirical stuff in there, like Miss Grundy turning out to be a hot babe and Archie having an affair with her, Betty being on medication for depression, all sorts of wacky stuff. It sounds like this is going to make the MAD parodies look pretty tame by comparison.
#2196
All About Archie / Re: Archie Multiverse Theory
May 09, 2016, 10:19:17 AM
You believe this is a hypothetical concept (that there is more than one different Archie in multiple universes)?

Um... have you read THE MARRIED LIFE?


Why don't you read THIS to start with, then we can talk.
#2197
Quote from: daren on May 03, 2016, 03:25:10 AM
I remember seeing one called "Which character smells the worst" and now I'll never have a chance to put my answer: DILTON. He must reek of every chemical known to science.

It might seem like I'm making a habit of disagreeing with you, but really that's not the case. My logical argument would be that Dilton is smart enough to conduct his experiments with volatile chemicals and gases wearing the proper personal protective equipment, and so would be the least likely (among RHS students) to be the worst-smelling (unless it was an issue of personal hygiene, but there's no indication in any of the stories that Dilton is neglectful of this). Dilton has his own lab, and is very familiar with lab safety protocols and all of the various types of protective gear. Dilton is certain to be the only student at RHS that can boast ownership of his own chemical hazmat and biohazard suit(s) - they might be two different suits or one suit that combines features of both, probably with a self-contained pure air supply. These would be made of chemical resistant, non-permeable materials. After he has used the suit and he's exited the laboratory, he knows he needs to remove it and place it in a container for later decontamination and scrubbing. Knowing Dilton's interest in every conceivable disciple of the physical sciences, he probably owns an anti-radiation suit as well.

It's true that there have been stories where Dilton has made miscalculations in his experiments and inventions (he is a genius, yet not infallible either). Most of these experiments and inventions involved the sciences of mechanical engineering and physics. He knows his basic science principles well, but when dealing with new experimental devices there are always random factors (some completely unforseeable) that he may have failed to account for in his equations. There are gray areas involved with any new invention or any science principle that isn't yet well-understood, so they involve a certain amount of trial and error, and adjusting the balance of the physical forces involved in the initial hypothetical mathematics. When it comes to basic Chemistry and Physics at the high school level, however, Dilton can just breeze through the courses, and in fact is eminently qualified to teach either of those classes at RHS. At Chemistry he's a whiz, because the chemical properties of elements and the chemical reactions between them have been well-known to science for ages, and the Periodic Table isn't about to change. They're just going over stuff that he's already committed to memory, anyway. There's no doubt that Dilton will be named valedictorian of his graduating class at RHS. In the digital exclusive DILTON miniseries, he was offered a chance to transfer to a school for gifted youths, but he ultimately decided to turn down the opportunity to remain at Riverdale High. Why? He values the social experience he's getting at Riverdale by being among people his own age, and teenagers from different backgrounds and with different interests, and he wanted to remain with his friends. Dilton doesn't want to just socialize with other geniuses closer to his own I.Q.

Now, if we're still discussing the topic of Chemistry, who do we know that has the worst safety record in the history of Professor Flutesnoot's chem lab? Archie Andrews, that's who. He causes the most accidents with chemicals in the lab, so he gets my vote as the one most likely to accidentally create a foul chemical odor, and of course Archie NEVER wears the proper personal protective gear, so any pungent fumes he creates are likely to cling to the fibers of his clothes, or possibly get in his hair or skin cells.

The other potential candidate for worst-smelling would be Jughead. There are several stories I can recall where Mrs. Jones frets over her son's inability to keep his clothes clean due to his sloppy eating habits. Since Jughead eats a LOT of food every day, and at least a portion of the variety of foods he consumes are bound to have some unpleasant food odors, that makes him a likely suspect in the worst-smelling category. Another point seldom dwelled upon is the fact that Jughead eats far more meals a day than the average person, yet how often do you see him brushing his teeth or using mouthwash? There are at least a few stories as well where Jughead's reluctance to take baths is noted. That and the fact that he spends a lot of time hanging around with and touching Hot Dog. Large dogs with long hair can attract and hold a lot of odors, and there are a few stories where I can recall it mentioned that Hot Dog was in need of a bath because he smelled bad, and of course, he's going to avoid that as well. The combination of a lot of different food stains on his clothes (which can attract bacteria), not bathing as often as his mother would like, and spending a lot of time hanging around a big dog that smells are all factors that aren't doing Jughead any favors in this sweepstakes. The other day there was a story I read where Jughead's mother wanted him to buy a new pair of shoes, because the sneakers which he was wearing were practically falling apart. At one point he had to remove the sneakers, and Archie was shown picking one up with two fingers, holding it away from himself. Smell wasn't mentioned specifically in the story, but Archie had that disgusted look on his face like when you're forced to touch something smelly and dirty like garbage. There seem to be quite a number of stories that remark on Jughead's reluctance to part with his old worn clothing. While that doesn't constitute proof that they smell, you have to wonder how many food stains those clothes have absorbed over the years. It pains me to say all this, because Jughead is definitely one of my favorite of all the male characters.

As a result of my like for him making me not want to conclude that Jughead is the worst-smelling, I must instead search for another candidate. If it doesn't turn out to be Archie (seems unlikely, due to his known mojo as a babe magnet), then I have to find someone else. But who could it be? If a character in Archie Comics was particularly foul-smelling, wouldn't we know that because everyone would avoid being around him? Then it occurred to me that if you never let yourself get close to a certain person, you'd never know how bad-smelling they were. There's one character in Archie Comics that everyone avoids anyway, so if they all try to get away from him, they'd never even get close enough to remark on how bad he smelled. That one person would be... JINX MALLOY.
#2198
Quote from: BlueBomber2015 on May 09, 2016, 05:29:08 AM
Ok, time to get back to action.



Is it my imagination, or, does Betty go to the same utilities store with Hawkeye and Green Arrow?

Maybe a sporting goods store, or just a department store (like Walmart). Pretty sure that such un-aerodynamic archery modifications as the "boxing glove arrow" are individually handcrafted items (never saw Hawkeye use one, but maybe Green Arrow patented it or something). I think for those boxing glove arrows to actually work they require a tech gizmo installed (Dilton would help Betty out with this one) that acts as a gravity deflector, redirecting the normal physical property of gravity (the mass of the glove normally would cause the arrow to fall to ground) by a 90 degree angle, so that the arrow would fly parallel to the ground (as if attracted by the force of normal earth gravity in the forward direction of flight). With the 90 degree gravity deflector gizmo installed, air resistance is actually helpful in slowing the forward movement of the boxing glove down so that when it contacts the target the force of impact remains in the non-lethal range. The force of impact also causes the gravity deflector to turn off, stopping the arrow cold. Superhero Science Fun Fact!

Although I haven't seen shoes like that for sale anywhere (not that I was looking for any like that)... perhaps she shops for shoes in the same store as Robin the Boy Wonder. She's got better legs though.
#2199
Quote from: daren on May 08, 2016, 03:04:38 AM
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 06, 2016, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: daren on May 06, 2016, 01:38:32 PM
If I knew I was going to be on this forum so long I would have picked a real username instead of my lame name, I thought I was going to be in and out. I'm thinking of changing it now.

How long have you been on the forum?

Since last August.


If you're really stuck, I believe the alias "Username Generator" is still up for grabs here.  :D

#2200
JUGHEAD & FRIENDS DIGEST #15, 16, 17, 18

There are good new Fernando Ruiz Jughead stories in all of these. #17 has "New Superkid In Town", a 10 page story that takes place at the local comic shop, where Archie, Jughead and Chuck are excited about the upcoming in-store appearance of Hugh Kendraw (punny... "you-can-draw"), a famous comic creator who has a new reality TV series entitled So You Wanna Be A Superhero?. (An obvious reference to the then-current reality TV series, Who Wants To Be A Superhero?, hosted by Stan Lee.) As part of the promotional kickoff for the new show, Kendraw will be judging a competition at the store with fans creating their own superhero characters, and appearing as them in costume. The winner of the contest gets to appear on the show and will be drawn into one of Kendraw's comic books as a guest star character. At the comic shop they bump into Dexter Daring, a meek, mild-mannered glasses-wearing teen, who begs off from participating in the competition, claiming it's "a little too much excitement for me".

Chuck creates a costume for himself as his superhero Fastball, a baseball-inspired superhero; Jughead appears as The Living Statue, whose indestructible stone body can't be harmed (but he has some mobility issues in his costume); Betty & Veronica appear in identical costumes sporting the Roman numeral II as a symbol, as one girl who can split herself into two bodies named Gemini; and Archie appears in an orange and yellow costume as Count Vertical, his superhero creation whose not-very-well-thought-out superpower is vertical flight (he can only levitate up and down, not horizontally). All of them are impressed when they witness the real superhero Courageous Kid flying overhead, saving Riverdale from the threat of an impending meteor impact (no points for guessing that Dex is secretly Courageous Kid). The final panel punchline comes after an irritated Hugh Kendraw throws up his arms in frustration over the parade of ill-conceived wannabe superhero character contestants, refusing to continue judging the competition. His parting accurate observation is "This town wouldn't know a REAL SUPER HERO if it stared one right in the face!" My own observation would be that Stan Lee must likely have felt the same frustration often in the judging of contestants on his cable series Who Wants To Be A Superhero?, but years of experience dealing with wannabe comic book writers and artists certainly must have armed him with diplomacy and tact. On the couple of episodes of that show I managed to catch, Lee handled the less-talented participants with kid gloves.

That story caused me to ponder the similar plot of Night At the Comic Shop (also drawn by Ruiz, and hardly coincidentally, I think -- he seems to relish these opportunities to work superheroes into the Archiverse, and the results are always enjoyable to me). In that story, a meteor impact at the comic book shop causes a rift in the multiverse, opening a number of dimensional gateways to parallel worlds inhabited by other characters formerly published by ACP. But where was Courageous Kid when he was needed?! (Probably otherwise occupied, off in outer space stopping some incipient cosmic disaster or alien incursion... it's the most likely explanation in these all-too-common situations.)

Reggie's cousin Regina appears in "Cousin Calamity" issue #18, where she actually goes on a date (not shown) with Jughead! Regina actually reminded me of one of the prettier versions of Ethel, without the buck teeth and with eye makeup and lipstick, except for her hairstyle. At least, to me she looked more like Ethel than a female Reggie, which was what I expected. She's mad at herself after the date, when her anticipated pranking of Jughead on their date got sidetracked by a trip to a burger joint and a movie, followed by ice cream and a long walk in the park, resulting in what she claims is the best date she ever had (she was having such a good time, she forgot to prank him).
#2201
Technically, what that drawing shows is an illusion caused by a lack of depth perception, as it's clear if you look closely at the positioning of Josie's fingers that her hand isn't supposed to be touching Melody, only positioned in front of her from the camera's POV. I know, it's not as fun that way though. Or maybe you can use your imagination and suppose that Josie is reaching for a little pinch. (It doesn't actually look to me like Stan G was trying to slip one by, here.)

There's a well-done fan-made Melody/Alexandra shipping comic story out there on the interwebs, "Of Dumb Dumbs and Pussycats" (mature content). I can say no more.
#2202
Quote from: BettyReggie on May 08, 2016, 10:18:24 PM
I have no idea but there are actually some Archie stuff that I absolutely no interest in . I don't really care to read the stories from 40's & 50's 60's & 70's. Every from the 80's & up to now is what interests me.

You could probably read all those (not counting reprinted stories in digests and trade collections) in less than 6 months, if you don't have a full-time job and set yourself daily goals for completion. That would be assuming you already had all those comics on hand to start off.

Assembling
that collection (1980s-present) in the first place is probably going to take somewhat longer than that, even assuming an unlimited budget, since a few individual comics would undoubtedly stubbornly elude you.
#2203
All About Archie / Re: Free Comic Book Day
May 09, 2016, 12:37:45 AM
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 08, 2016, 11:47:43 PM
I'll look into DC Super Hero girls. That youtuber Nerdburger actually likes the sister series: Super Girl Comics Adventures in 8th grade.

I'd don't know if I'd quite call that a "sister series". It is in the general sense of being part of the fairly long-running DC KIDS imprint, which traces its history back to THE BATMAN ADVENTURES, the first WB/DC animated series spinoff comic, in the early 1990s. Earlier incarnations of the same basic line carried the imprint titles WB KIDS and FOX KIDS, when DC Comics had media partnerships with those television networks (it should be noted that DC Comics itself is a wholly-owned subsidiary of media giant Time-Warner).

There have been a number of different re-interpretations of the DC characters in that line though, and there's no continuity (even in the most minimal sense of that word) between any of the titles in the DC KIDS line. Each title stands entirely on its own, with no presumed familiarity on the reader's part with any other prior or current DC Kids titles. The 'Adventures in the 8th Grade' Supergirl can't really be considered a younger version of the Supergirl that appears in DC Super Hero Girls, it's just one of several unrelated versions of Supergirl that have appeared in various titles over the history of the DC KIDS imprint. But if you like basic idea of DC superheroes, without all the heavy baggage of modern adult audience-targeted mainstream DC comics, the DC KIDS imprint in general is a lot of fun.
#2204
Quote from: irishmoxie on May 08, 2016, 01:02:17 AM
Some Laugh comics from the late 80s series because they contain Josie and Sabrina stories. Adding them to the GCD as I go.

Excellent. I was just combing through that listing for Laugh at GCDb (or maybe it was the second series) looking for the Sabrina and Josie stories. Maybe when I have some more complete (or at least somewhat substantial in terms of multiple issues) runs of those older anthology titles (TV Laugh-Out is another, as is Pep Comics) I'll be able to contribute a few things to the index. I realize you can just add a single issue here or there, but I haven't really spent any time looking at the mechanics of adding listings, the format and whatnot. Seems like it would be easier to just concentrate on one title at a time, if I had a bunch of issues of the same. My older issues are sparse and pretty random acquisitions at this point. I haven't really seriously devoted time to searching out ones of particular interest, because I still have only the vaguest sense of what stories go in which titles in which time periods. That and a lack of good selection of Archie back issues to buy anywhere but online. I need more help from GCD than I'm able to give at this point. All I know is that I like Sabrina and Josie stories, and Betty & Veronica stories drawn by Dan DeCarlo. Wish I had more of the originals.
#2205
Quote from: daren on May 08, 2016, 02:57:45 AM
It's not like God wrote the first page and told ACP to finish it, maybe just write a whole nother story? Here's an ending: They shrink all the panels to fit one last one of Veronica kicking Archie's butt. I'd laugh.

I'm not going to further belabor the topic by going point by point. I'll merely summarize my position by noting that you're applying an entirely different standard of interpretation of realism to this story than you would to a typical Archie story (by which I mean, NOT one from one of those titles like LIFE WITH ARCHIE, either volume, the context of which series is set up slightly differently from the outset). This is a typical Archie short from a typical Archie comic, and no different in that respect from a hundred others from the same approximate time period in its level of cartoon reality. While there do exist a few atypical examples (the stories where the fourth wall is broken and the characters get meta) of reality which I'd deem "even MORE than" typically cartoony, this is not a didactic lesson, it's comedy, and Veronica is never in any danger of harm. In fact that danger is so minimally portrayed here that I must conclude that that is the source of your confusion. If the slapstick action had been MORE exaggerated then maybe it would be more obvious to you.  I notice that every time you need to argue your point your need to invoke very selective (by which I mean highly interpretive) words to describe the action, like "assault", "grinding", "scouring", etc. in an attempt to try to link the slapstick to real violence.

(*Sigh*) And now I need to digress one last time and mention that -- since I brought up the topic of "didactic lesson" stories, a few examples of which do exist in the Archie canon, but they are atypical, and somewhat in-your-face obvious... but this is NOT one of them -- while I may have euphemistically referred to Archie "teaching her a lesson" in an earlier post, in order to forestall a final nit-pick, I need to explain that I referred there only to the internal dynamics of the story's comedy elements... someone does something, and it has consequences that backfire on them. This story isn't a didactic lesson because (unlike say, a few stories where Archie and the gang try to teach the readers that prejudice against race is bad), Archie 'teaching Veronica a lesson' in the story is no different than Moose 'teaching Reggie a lesson' by beating him up for looking at Midge. In no way is that intended by the creators of the story (Frank Doyle, most likely, and Harry Lucey) to serve as an example which readers should take to heart and emulate, about how men should treat women, any more than a story with Moose beating up Reggie is intended to serve to the readers as a lesson on how the readers should deal with potential rivals who might seek to steal their girlfriends or boyfriends. It's not a didactic lesson story intended to teach the readers anything about reality. It's simply a slapstick comedy whose ending stems from consequences that result from the actions of the character on the receiving end of the joke from their actions earlier in the story.

I'll concede that there's nothing further I could possibly say that will change your mind about how you feel about it, while still disagreeing with your interpretation of the story in principle. Nothing you've said has changed my belief that the writer and artist of this story created it with no misogynistic intent, either consciously or unconsciously, and (speculatively, since I have no real way of confirming) that most readers aren't reading it that way either.