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What comics have you been reading? by DeCarlo Rules
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Days we look foward to as Archie Fans. by BettyReggie
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Hello, Citizens of Riverdale! by chrisophical
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Your Pal Archie by DeCarlo Rules
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'Riverdale' Adds Vanessa Morgan as Bisexual Archie Comics Character Toni Topaz by DeCarlo Rules
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Library Books That You All Read by BettyReggie
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Betty and Cheryl by Tuxedo Mark
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Bad news Sonic fans-Archie's sonic the hedgehog comic is cancelled by Vegan Jughead
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  • BettyReggie: Good night
    July 22, 2017, 09:48:17 PM
  • Vegan Jughead: That season 2 preview is AWESOME!  this is gonna rock.
    July 22, 2017, 05:51:09 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: *Season
    July 22, 2017, 04:40:38 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: Seaspm 2 preview: [link]
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    July 22, 2017, 03:17:55 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Now if IDW could only get the Capcom license for Mega Man...  :(
    July 21, 2017, 11:57:03 PM
  • rusty: Sonic is moving to IDW.   [link]
    July 21, 2017, 07:49:21 PM
  • CAPalace: Sega posted on their Sonic Twitter. They pulled the Sonic license from Archie Comics and are going to do their own Sonic comic (or something) [link] Wow :(
    July 19, 2017, 08:53:28 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Having the comic solicited by DC is ultimately to ACP's benefit, since it's likely to result in higher preorders from comic shop retailers than if it were the other way around.
    July 19, 2017, 08:52:54 AM
  • rusty: They only show the Amanda Conner cover.  Here are the DC solicits.   [link]
    July 19, 2017, 08:39:49 AM
  • BettyReggie: I can't find them. Can you post pictures of both Comics, because Adam Hughes is doing a cover too.
    July 19, 2017, 08:26:11 AM
  • rusty: Harley and Ivy Meet Betty and Veronica #1 is in the DC Solicitations instead of the Archie Solicitations.
    July 18, 2017, 09:52:16 PM
  • BettyReggie: i wrote to Mike Pellerito on twitter How come no B & v #4 & Harley & Ivy Meet Betty & Veronica #1 in The October 2017 Solicitations?
    July 18, 2017, 02:17:43 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: I know WHY they're doing those floppy comics the way they are. It's largely wasted effort though, because the Archie characters just don't have a history for most of those backbone consumers that make up the comic shop audience. They're largely raised on superhero comics and nothing but. What I'm suggesting is that they're concentrating their efforts in the wrong place, because they're never going to convert a significant enough share of the direct market into ACP readers.
    July 18, 2017, 02:07:10 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: Yes, DCR, I've read a lot of your thoughts about Archie's challenges with the comic shops and I agree with you.  My friend having just owned and sold a comic shop, the entire comic shop format is in danger.  His business was tough.  I think that's why, as much as you're not a fan, you see things like RIVERDALE.  These companies have to use their characters every way they get a chance.  Selling books isn't enough to sustain them anymore.
    July 17, 2017, 09:09:41 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: If there's anything comic book retailers and collectors don't like, it's (A) non-standard size comics that don't fit their normal racking/bins, bagging, boarding, boxing and filing system; and (B) reprints, unless they're of consecutive issues of the same title and/or consecutive chapters of a continued story. Also non-standard genres, like anything cartoony or comical. I think that pretty much covers the uphill slope ACP has going against it with comic shops.
    July 17, 2017, 03:37:47 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: It's not meant for the comic shop market. I didn't get the point of LIFE WITH ARCHIE in magazine format, since the content was clearly aimed at the audience for floppy comics. I could see if they had offered both formats to try to hedge their bets, but ACP's failure to offer that series in floppy format is baffling. And digests and magazines don't necessarily have the same audience either. I prefer the magazine-size reprints.
    July 17, 2017, 02:57:59 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: From what I've seen though, almost everything in those Super Specials has recently been published in digests.  I don't get the point.
    July 16, 2017, 08:06:05 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: @VJ - Still better than any 2 and half floppy comics they've been publishing (and more pages of story, too) by my reckoning. Looks like you and I will just be spending our respective $10 in different ways. Maybe I'd feel differently if the new stories ACP is publishing were equal in entertainment value to me to the reprints.
    July 16, 2017, 05:00:59 PM
  • Vegan Jughead: I really don't care if it gets published.  It's one of the biggest ripoffs they sell.  10 bucks for blown up art on cheap paper.
    July 16, 2017, 06:56:30 AM

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All About Archie / Re: Your Pal Archie
« on: July 25, 2017, 06:17:41 PM »
Your Pal Archie #1 was good. It contains 3 stories, the first of which (12 pages) is complete in this issue. The second story (8 pages) is Part 1 of a longer story, so it ends on a "To Be Continued!" teaser (not going to give away any spoilers here). The third story is a classic B&V reprint (5 pages), although the story selected is a relatively recent one, also by Dan Parent, so it doesn't look so obvious that it's a reprint (although it does actually say it's a classic reprint, so they're not trying to fool anyone here). It seemed vaguely familar to me, without checking, so I'm going to say it probably appeared in one of the two B&V digest titles within the past couple of years. It felt like a good selection to add some extra pages.

The cosmetic makeover of the characters was a little off-putting to me when first previewed, but in actual practice it doesn't make the stories that different. It felt like Ty and Dan were working from a presumption of readers having no real prior familiarity with the classic stories, so it's a bit of a clean break and a fresh start from that aspect. Notably absent from either of the new stories were any of those secondary supporting characters (virtually all of whom were created in the past decade) that Dan frequently likes working into his digest stories, since most new readers would not be familiar with them. All things considered, I find this to be a more-than-acceptable replacement floppy title for the 1st series ARCHIE, which ceased publication with issue #666 just about 2 years ago now, in a way that the New Riverdale ARCHIE will never be a replacement for me personally. I can accept it as an "alternate Archieverse" title for a different audience than me, but that's all. To me it will never be the "main" Archie.

I've mentioned this before, but all I really want is more new pages of classic Archie stories. I don't care what format they're in. It doesn't have to be the floppy comic format. I can accept the cosmetic facelift because that's what they think they need to do in order to sell this comic in the direct market. I'd probably have been happier to see them making a real effort to attract new readers to the digest titles by adding more pages of new stories (10-20 pages in every title), because that's where the real market for Archie seems to exist to me, outside the comic shops. If it were up to me I'd be making real efforts to reconnect the Archie characters with their main demographic, school-age kids, by pursuing formats that would get NEW stories into schools and libraries, where there already exists a "captive audience" of readers, and revitalizing the digests to make them more attractive to more readers. I do question what they think has changed in 2 years of absence of classic Archie stories in the floppy format that is suddenly going to result in a new influx of readers from the direct market (because outside of digital, that's really the only sales outlet here, comic book stores). If I had to hazard a guess I'd say they think the mere existence of Riverdale as a television show has raised awareness of the characters across the board to the point where a new classic floppy might be viable -- but I don't know... maybe I'm wrong, but it seems the mainstream comic shop consumers have always marginalized ACP's comic books and their characters, and never really embraced them like Marvel and DC's (or even Image or Dark Horse's) characters. Maybe relaunching with a new #1 will help, maybe not. I'd rather be wrong on this one.

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Welcome/Introductions / Re: Hello, Citizens of Riverdale!
« on: July 23, 2017, 03:27:41 PM »
Well, he's the best male character. Hands down. Not even close. I think I'd rate the Boldman/Lindsey version as #1, with a tie for 2nd place between Samm Schwartz and Fernando Ruiz. All three versions are slightly different characters. Dan Parent's version would rate higher probably, if he'd done more Jughead solo stories, but I haven't seen all that many crop up. I don't know what I'm going to do now that JUGHEAD & ARCHIE digest is cancelled. Probably have to start buying more back issues, if I can find them.

What kind of monster tosses a box of Archie Comics on the side of the road?

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All About Archie / Re: Your Pal Archie
« on: July 23, 2017, 03:12:09 PM »
I like the idea of 2 stories in each issue, and the idea that one is complete, but the other is continued in the next issue. That allows for variety of stories (if you don't like one of them that much, you may like the other one better), plus stories of different lengths. And if it's done right, the "continued" story can be written in such a way that it's sort-of complete in itself, while still leading into a second part - basically complications or consequences arising from the events of the first part. That gives it a connection and encourages people to pick up the following issue to see what's going to happen next.

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All About Archie / Re: Your Pal Archie
« on: July 23, 2017, 01:53:10 PM »
Got issue one in the mail yesterday as part of my subscription.


Pretty fun!  Great art and I like that there's several shorter stories instead of one long one.  B&V are beautiful drawn by Dan of course!!!

I thought I read an interview with Dan that said each issue would have two stories -- one complete, and another which continues into the next issue.

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Sadly true.If only Sega will allow Archie to make one more issue of Sonic the hedgehog with a closure before they end production.But If sonic is adapted to IDW  then it will be a new continuity for the sonic the hedgehog comic book series with no mention of the old Archie continuity.

That's just the way these things go sometimes. No closure for those Sonic readers who were in the midst of reading a story arc -- and no trade collection for anyone who was reading the comic that way. I guess we can reflect on the fact that this was just the standard operating procedure for MOST cancelled comics for decades, before the rise in popularity of trade paperbacks led to discretely-planned multi-issue arcs -- stories would just END, with an implied "to be continued next issue" that was never fulfilled.

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All About Archie / Re: Archie #22
« on: July 20, 2017, 05:38:13 AM »
You can probably expect to see a sales bump on the "Over the Edge" arc issues of ARCHIE due to retailer speculation, following in the same pattern as prior retailer speculation on VERONICA #202 (first appearance of Kevin Keller), and LIFE WITH ARCHIE #16 (The Marriage of Kevin Keller cover variant), #23 (Francavilla
"Afterlife With Archie" cover variant), and #36 & 37 (the "Death of Archie" issues).

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All About Archie / Re: Archie #22
« on: July 20, 2017, 05:00:10 AM »
The only observation I'll make here is that REGGIE AND ME and JOSIE had the same creative team for the length of their runs, and JUGHEAD had 2 different writers and 2 different artists. ARCHIE has had a single writer and a different artist for each story arc. You can hardly judge Adam Hughes B&V for comparative purposes due to the fact that it only ran 3 issues, the first issue of which was locked into retailers' preorder numbers.

My takeaway from that is that the people who continued to buy ARCHIE after the first story arc either liked Mark Waid's story a lot better than the stories of the other writers on the other New Riverdale titles, or they just want to buy a comic which features Archie and his supporting cast, and they care less about Reggie, Josie, and Jughead as main characters. Possibly a combination of the two factors, but if I had to bet which side sales were leaning more heavily on, I'd go with the fact that it's ARCHIE, rather than that it's written by Mark Waid, since I doubt the main consumers buying ARCHIE are followers of Waid's work on other comic books.

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If they're doing a superhero crossover, I'd like to see a gritty reboot of (Netflix) The Punisher Meets (WB) Archie  ;D

More like The Punisher Meets Afterlife With Archie. I'm thinking lots of head shots. Quickest way to take down a zombie.

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Hopefully they get a surplus in cash to release new titles, or rebooted ones, such as the actual "Archie's Madhouse", or maybe a new darker "Cosmo" series.

They should just do a Little Archie horror comic, since the original is probably the "classic Archie" title that arguably came closest to that genre in its original incarnation.

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: July 14, 2017, 03:31:12 PM »
I guess with floppy comics I always felt that the immediacy of "this week's comics" is what kept that format going. As in, there are tons of comics being published every month, so you can't read them all -- so every floppy comic you read is informing you about adjustments you need to make to your reading (and spending) patterns.

If you save up six issues of a new miniseries that you were pretty sure you were going to enjoy when you decided to buy it, then read the first issue and it stinks, now what do you do? What if the second issue stinks just as bad? Do you tough it out and read them all, even though it's now a chore because you obviously made a bad choice, but having spent the money already, you feel like you need to justify it? Even worse if you're reading a lot of Marvel and DC comics, when there's some line-wide event thing going on. Can you be sure you're reading them all in the correct order according to the week they were released? And what if, a few issues in (to a crossover that involves dozens of comics) you're not even liking the story?

I used to read about 75-80% of all the "universe" titles Marvel and DC published, but gimmick storylines and crossovers really burnt me out on those publishers. For Marvel, I essentially stopped buying floppies after Dark Reign ended with Siege. Those massive months-long stories just never seemed to have any real dramatic payoff, they just ground to a halt, while simultaneously planting a number of seeds for the next upcoming crossover event. TBH, that had already happened for me with the X-Men and Spider-Man titles back in the early 1990s. After Siege, I kept reading a few things like Ed Brubaker's Captain America, Matt Fraction's Iron Man, and Mark Waid's Daredevil, mainly because I'd been reading them since the beginnings of those runs, but eventually they got around to cancelling/renumbering or changing creative teams, and I stopped reading when the writers I liked stopped writing them. Other Marvel titles which I've read since that time usually got cancelled fairly quickly, running around 15 issues or less. As of right now I'm down to reading just Dan Slott and Mike Allred's Silver Surfer and Jeff Lemire and Mike Deodato's Thanos, Cullen Bunn's X-Men Blue (which I don't imagine will last long for me) and the occasional miniseries (R.L. Stein's Man-Thing was fun), plus I'll read some first issues here and there, just to check them out, but I'm finding fewer and fewer Marvels to read.

With DC, it was after Flashpoint (which was terrible) resulted in the New 52 reboot. Again, I stopped buying the floppies, but kept on reading the Geoff Johns/Peter Tomasi Green Lantern titles (until they quit writing them with issue #40), Paul Levitz' Legion of Super-Heroes (until it got cancelled), and Grant Morrison's Batman Incorporated (until that ended, too). For a while I read Justice League Dark, Charles Soule's Swamp Thing, Pandora, Phantom Stranger and Trinity of Sin, but they all got cancelled too. After DC Rebirth I tried a bunch of them, then settled down to reading just Greg Rucka's Wonder Woman and James Tynion IV's Detective Comics, but Rucka left WW with #25, so I'm down to just the one DC Universe title. I did read The Death of Hawkman miniseries and liked it, so I bought the TP. I do read a few other non-DCU titles like Astro City, Batman '66, Wonder Woman '77, Future Quest, Scooby-Doo Team-Up, and Looney Tunes (just started actually). The latter five are floppies I actually buy (even though I'll also get the trade collections of Astro City, Batman '66, Future Quest and Scooby-Doo Team-Up). Future Quest is concluded now and I think that Batman '66 is ending with next week's LSH team-up one-shot.

That's a huge drop from six or seven years ago, though. Fortunately it leaves me more time and money to read comics from other publishers!

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: July 14, 2017, 06:49:50 AM »
Finding time to read all of this is the biggest problem.  I may eventually cut back, but figure there will be time to read everything when I retire if necessary.

That IS the problem. If you don't read them "hot off the press" the week they're released, I'm forced to wonder what's the point of accumulating floppy comics. I constantly see 90% of the floppy comics I bought just a few years ago when rifling through the 50 cent bins. Oh, they're still worth reading if you're interested in them, but it does beg the question of the reason people are collecting comic books in that format -- other than the weight of 50+ years of comic book readers for whom there was essentially no other choice available. Since we now are living in a time when we're disabused of the notion that collecting new comic books is an "investment", aren't we really only saving them so we can re-read the stories we particularly liked again later? In the meantime, there's vast amounts of energy to be expended on tracking titles and issues to be checked off lists, bagging/boarding, boxing and filing all those floppy comics. And they're so easily damaged by careless handling or storage when not protected by plastic and cardboard collecting supplies. I'm just lazy and I'm trying to cut down on the amount of effort I have to put into the collecting part of my library of comics. These days when I buy a floppy I'm probably buying it as much for the cover art as anything else, as I can always get the story at a later time in paperback or hardcover (or digitally, if that's what I preferred). Sometimes if it's a marginal-selling title I'll buy it just as a show of support for something I really like. Otherwise it's probably a title from one of those small publishers for whom a trade collection isn't guaranteed.

Nowadays comic books from all but the most marginal of publishers are virtually guaranteed to be available either as digital singles, or as trade paperbacks (usually both). So if you're not going to read them first, while they're still fresh, you might as well wait for the trade collection. Most of the current floppy comics I read now are just borrowed (usually on the day they're released, and returned in the same condition I got them within a week, if not the next day). The owner of my LCS is a personal friend.

Less than half of those floppy comics that I read I deem worthy of buying the trade collections of, but between recent stories and older material, I still manage to buy an average of 6 paperback or hardcover comics collections every week. I do have a particular weakness for Archives, Masterworks, Omnibus, Absolute, and other similar deluxe format comics (particularly comics from the 1930s through 1960s), as well as for hardcover newspaper strip collections from IDW's Library of American Comics and Hermes Press. Those hardcover collections tend to appear less frequently on my reading list, because they can sometimes sit for a long time before I get around to reading them. My priority is to read those borrowed floppy comics and return them quickly. Also, it can sometimes take me a long time (depending on how many comics are reprinted in a hardcover collection) to get through them, because I usually have a few different collected editions going at any one time that I sometimes put down for a little while, then read something else, then come back to it later -- sometimes much later. Depends on the nature of what's collected in the book and the overall length, unless it's one LONG story, then I usually try to read the whole thing contiguously. I guess that's one good thing about floppies, you can squeeze in a quick read of the whole comic when you don't have time to sit and read the whole of something lengthier that has 100-500 pages.

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: July 12, 2017, 05:44:18 PM »
I sometimes wonder if Image isn't actually publishing more titles than DC. Most of them don't come out nearly as often, but they do publish a heck of a lot of titles.


I buy more comics from Image than I do from Marvel.  I think that DC and Marvel publish more titles, but Image does have quite a few.


Today (and maybe tomorrow)


Moonshine
No Mercy
Paper Girls
Reborn
Saga
Shutter
Wicked + Divine
Horizon
Eclipse
The Fix
Green Valley
Southern Cross
Switch

I read about the same percentage of the titles Image publishes as I do Marvel and DC's... maybe about 05% of what they're publishing. That's probably true of most of the larger publishers. I think I might read a slightly better percentage of Dark Horse, IDW, Boom, and Oni Press titles, and probably a significantly higher percent of Dynamite titles. Hard to say with Archie, because things keep shifting in the titles being published. I read 6 digests, most classic Archie trade collections (except for the Giant Comics and 1000-pagers), and was reading Jughead until it was cancelled. I'll be reading Your Pal Archie when that comes out.

I'd say the hardest thing with most Image titles is trying to get some idea of what the book's about, just by skimming through one. Frequently the art isn't doing anything to pique my interest, and the covers rarely even attract me to pick one up and flip through it. The ones I've liked I've generally just discovered by accident. Oh, I could easily discover those things about various titles if I wanted to do the work in checking up on each title Image puts out, looking at reviews and so forth, but it's just more effort than I want to make. Many's the first issue I've read that just didn't grab me, so it's got to stand out in some way to get my attention. Then again even if I do make it past the first to a second, third and fourth issue, those titles tend to fall by the wayside pretty easily if something more interesting comes out to get my attention. Most Image titles I wind up reading don't have long runs anyway.

I honestly rarely even pay that much attention to what company is publishing the comic, although I might be more likely to try an otherwise unknown title from Dark Horse or IDW, simply because those companies have proven to be more sympatico with my tastes in the past. I'm more likely to be attracted by specific creators, a novel concept, a predisposition to genre or subject matter, or just artwork I like by a previously-unknown-to-me creator.

More and more my attention focuses on the really smaller publishers, and trade paperbacks or hardcovers, whether original or reprinting stuff recent or older.

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All About Archie / Re: Josie & The Pussycats #8
« on: July 12, 2017, 10:20:10 AM »
I would buy a book about The Archies drawn by Audrey Mok. But only if it were well-written and funny.

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I have no idea but since Jughead: The Hunger will be drawn by Pat and Tim Kennedy instead of Hack or Francavilla, it has a decent shot at actually sticking to a regular publishing schedule.

As long as it isn't written by Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa. That probably has more to do with the 2-issues a year releases of AWA and ChAoS than Hack and Francavilla.

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General Discussion / Re: Super 'Suckers / Sitcomics update
« on: July 10, 2017, 06:17:56 AM »
YES!! *<-- (If there were a smiley for 'tears of joy' it would go right here.)

I was beginning to despair that Sitcomics had given up. I know there are a lot more profitable avenues of endeavor that you could be spending your time and effort on, so it has to be a true labor of love, and for that I thank you, sir.

September can't come fast enough! I am so looking forward to reading the next Super Suckers binge book!

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