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What comics have you been reading? by DeCarlo Rules
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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: Today at 04:43:32 AM »
How did you enjoy Betty and Veronica Vixens?

I was a little underwhelmed by it. I still have more interest in it than things like the New Riverdale ARCHIE or B&V by Adam Hughes, but I didn't like it as much as JUGHEAD #8-16, though I'll give it a few more issues. I don't really expect it to run more than 6 or 8 issues, anyway.


How was the Sugarplum story in Archie and Me?

It's not really what I'd call a Sugarplum story. She's IN it, briefly, but it's really another Jingles story. The gist of the plot here is that Sugarplum used her magic powers to remove Jingles' own magical abilities as a brownie, so now he has to mooch off Archie until he figures out some way that he can get Sugarplum to restore his powers. As for why Sugarplum would do that to Jingles, he says it's because he was dating a friend of Sugarplum's, but then he started dating someone else, and Sugarplum found out about it. There's no reference made to those stories from less than a decade ago, where Sugarplum and Jingles (in their human guises as Susan and Jimmy) actually dated each other.

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: November 22, 2017, 08:53:26 AM »
ASH VS. THE ARMY OF DARKNESS #5 (of 5)
PUNISHER: PLATOON #3 (of 6)
THANOS #13
SAVAGE DRAGON #228
RICK AND MORTY: POCKET LIKE YOU STOLE IT #5 (of 5)
DETECTIVE COMICS #969
WONDER WOMAN #35
THE DEMON: HELL IS EARTH #1 (of 6)
DOOMSDAY CLOCK #1 (of 12)
KAMANDI CHALLENGE #11 (of 12)
SCOOBY-DOO TEAM UP #32
LOONEY TUNES #240
THE GREATEST ADVENTURE #7 (of 9)
SHEENA #3
DIE KITTY DIE: HOLLYWOOD OR BUST #4 (of 4)
YOUR PAL ARCHIE #4 (of 5)
BETTY & VERONICA: VIXENS #1
ARCHIE AND ME COMICS DIGEST #2
THAT WILKIN BOY #27 (APR 1974)
JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS #75 (APR 1974)
JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS #76 (JUN 1974)
ARCHIE'S T.V. LAUGH-OUT #24 (MAY 1974)
ARCHIE'S T.V. LAUGH-OUT #32 (JUL 1975)
ARCHIE'S T.V. LAUGH-OUT #83 (OCT 1981)
SABRINA THE TEENAGE WITCH #50 (DEC 1978)
CHILI #19 (OCT 1972)
LAUGH #270 (SEP 1973)
LAUGH #306 (SEP 1976)
PEP #283 (NOV 1973)
PEP #380 (DEC 1981)
ARCHIE'S GIRLS BETTY AND VERONICA #154 (OCT 1968)
ARCHIE'S GIRLS BETTY AND VERONICA #310 (OCT 1981)
ARCHIE'S GIRLS BETTY AND VERONICA #319 (AUG 1982)
ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (BETTY AND VERONICA SPECTACULAR) #246 (JUN 1976)
ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (BETTY AND VERONICA SPECTACULAR) #510 (OCT 1981)
BETTY AND ME #30 (SEP 1970)
BETTY AND ME #68 (AUG 1975)
BETTY AND ME #124 (OCT 1981)
Spire Christian Comics:
    ARCHIE'S CLEAN SLATE (1973)
    ARCHIE'S WORLD (1976)
    ARCHIE GETS A JOB! (1977)
    JUGHEAD'S SOUL FOOD (1979)
    ARCHIE'S FESTIVAL (1980)
    ARCHIE AND MR. WEATHERBEE (1980)
ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (WORLD OF ARCHIE) #509 (SEP 1981)
ARCHIE GIANT SERIES (WORLD OF JUGHEAD) #511 (OCT 1981)
JUGHEAD #223 (DEC 1973)
JUGHEAD #317 (OCT 1981)
JUGHEAD'S JOKES #43 (APR 1975)
REGGIE'S JOKES #29 (MAY 1974)
REGGIE AND ME #79 (JUL 1975)
MADHOUSE COMICS #126 (OCT 1981)
LIFE WITH ARCHIE #84 (APR 1969)
LIFE WITH ARCHIE #139 (NOV 1973)
LIFE WITH ARCHIE #144 (APR 1974)
LIFE WITH ARCHIE #227 (NOV 1981)
ARCHIE #245 (JUL 1975)
ARCHIE #246 (AUG 1975)
ARCHIE AT RIVERDALE HIGH #11 (OCT 1973)
ARCHIE AT RIVERDALE HIGH #15 (APR 1974)
ARCHIE AT RIVERDALE HIGH #82 (OCT 1981)
ARCHIE AND ME #65 (JUN 1974)
ARCHIE AND ME #130 (OCT 1951)
EVERYTHING'S ARCHIE #35 (SEP 1974)
EVERYTHING'S ARCHIE #40 (JUN 1974)


(... All binge-read in about 12 hours. Whew!! ...)





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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: November 19, 2017, 11:31:12 AM »
STAR TREK: DISCOVERY - OFFICIAL COLLECTOR'S EDITION MAGAZINE HC - I've not seen the streaming series yet. Looks interesting.

POPEYE CLASSICS VOL 10 HC - A quick read and super-enjoyable, as always. Bud Sagendorf's Popeye is the one I'm most familiar with. He was a former assistant to E.C. Segar, Popeye's creator, and drew the comic book stories from #1 (published by Dell Comics in 1948) until #72 (published by Gold Key Comics in 1964), and the Popeye newspaper strip from 1959 (which is where this volume ends, with issue #49) until 1986. Sagendorf's Popeye combined the Segar version with the more familiar and popular Fleischer Brothers animated version from the 1930s. The stories are brilliantly inventive, stream-of-consciousness little epics. As an example, in issue #46, we get the complete story of Swee'pea, when he asks Popeye to fill him in on who he is and how he became Popeye's "adoptik boy-kid". Hopefully Craig Yoe and IDW can continue this series (should be another 4 or 5 hardcover volumes) until the conclusion of Sagendorf's run on the comic. The single-issue reprint series (entitled Classic Popeye) is already up to issue #65, so only another dozen issues to go until the end of Sagendorf's comic book version.

BETTY AND VERONICA DOUBLE DIGEST #258 - Still has the highest page count of classic Dan DeCarlo stories. Nice to see a new Jeff Shultz B&V story (and the return of Noelle Claus). Cramming more special sections into this digest is kind of a trade-off, because now they're as short as 11 pages. In this issue we get Li'l Jinx (eh...), Josie, Sabrina plus 2 classic Doyle/DeCarlo Betty & Me stories, in addition to the more usual recent stuff.

MY FRIEND DAHMER by Derf Backderf (OGN) - It's now been made into a indy film adaptation, so they did a new printing with a movie photo cover. Been meaning to read this for ages. Outstanding. The creator of the graphic novel was a fellow classmate of Jeffrey Dahmer's who knew him in high school, and he details his weird behavior even then. In addition to Derf's own memories and those of his friends, he also draws material from interviews with Dahmer himself, his parents, and on investigative news reports at the time of Dahmer's arrest in 1991, when Derf's then-girlfriend was a local reporter who was covering the story. Creepy and chilling -- yet the author also presents Dahmer as human, a monster-in-the-making that didn't have to be if he had gotten the help he needed in time to avert his later more extreme behavior.  Some of the scenes from Dahmer's life are bizarre - like an incident where, while on a class field trip to Washington D.C., Dahmer used his persuasiveness by making a blind call from a pay phone to the office of then-Vice President Walter Mondale to secure an invite for a meet-and-greet with himself and his classmates. Incredibly, the Vice President of the U.S. met with students from his class and Dahmer in was in the same office (as was national syndicated columnist Art Buchwald) only feet away.

THE MONSTER OF FRANKENSTEIN TP - This reprints both the color comic book series (1970s Marvel), plus the black & white comics from MONSTERS UNLEASHED magazine.

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: November 18, 2017, 01:37:56 PM »
SCARLET TRACES VOL 02 TP
THE ROOK ARCHIVES VOL 02 HC
THE ROOK ARCHIVES VOL 03 HC
THE ART OF THE PULPS HC
FICTION HOUSE: FROM PULPS TO PANELS, FROM JUNGLES TO SPACE HC
ROM #13 & 14
FIRST STRIKE #0-6 (of 6)
FIRST STRIKE: MICRONAUTS #1 (one-shot)
FIRST STRIKE: ROM #1 (one-shot)
NOT BRAND ECHH #14 (one-shot)
THE HARVEY COMICS COMPANION by Mark Arnold TP
FUTURE QUEST PRESENTS: THE GALAXY TRIO VS. SPACE GHOST #4
BUG: THE ADVENTURES OF FORAGER #5  (of 6)
CASPER THE FRIENDLY GHOST #2
GREEN HORNET '66 MEETS THE SPIRIT #5 (of 5)
RASPUTIN: VOICE OF THE DRAGON #1 (of 5)
KONG ON THE PLANET OF THE APES #1 (of 6)
SIMPSONS COMICS #241
COUGAR AND CUB TP
SHIGERU MIZUKI'S KITARO VOL 04: KITARO'S STRANGE ADVENTURES TP



I'm loving the Casper series. I wish they had more available.

It was all right. I primarily got it for the Hot Stuff story, where he almost (but not quite) meets Wendy the Good Little Witch.

Much more fascinating to me this week was reading the whole story behind the story of the company that published Casper's comic books for more than 30 years, Harvey Comics, in THE HARVEY COMICS COMPANION. From its start in 1941 to 1958, when it acquired the rights to the Casper character from its original owners Famous Studios/Paramount (for essentially nothing, and the reasons why are complicated but interesting), along with the rights to other former Paramount-owned characters like Little Audrey, Baby Huey, Buzzy the Crow, and Herman & Katnip, Harvey Comics went from being a general publisher of many types and genres of comic books, to a publisher which invested its entire future in those characters and others of a similar type. In the short run, it turned out to be an immensely profitable decision, but in the long run, it's the very reason why Harvey Comics no longer exists today. 25 years later, family strife and legal complications ultimately shut the company down, but it's still easy to see that they were fighting a losing battle because they invested everything in this one limited genre of comic book publishing. They put ALL their intellectual property eggs in ONE basket.

Ultimately the company, then calling itself Harvey Classics, was sold to Classic Media (then owned by Hallmark), which in turn was acquired by Dreamworks SKG, and rebranded itself Dreamworks Classics, until Dreamworks SKG was acquired by NBC Universal (which is now owned by Comcast).

It's easy to see some pretty interesting parallels between Harvey Comics and Archie Comics, on many levels -- both in terms of the product they are marketing and to whom, the family ownership situation, and various mismanagement difficulties. Ultimately, I think ACP will wind up with a similar fate. They're unlikely to sell out to another comic book company, but more likely to sell out to a media conglomerate interested in exploiting the nostalgia potential of their intellectual properties for merchandising profits and newer media re-imaginings.

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All About Archie / Re: Archie Comics February 2018 Solicitations
« on: November 16, 2017, 04:15:09 AM »
I hope that Best of Betty and Veronica Vol 2 trade really happens this time, though. 

Yeah, me too. It seems like lately they are catching up and managing to get those old cancelled trade collections printed after all (look how long it took for THE COMPLETE SABRINA) so hopefully they can keep it up.

Here's a "not final" cover image from a 'previously solicited but later cancelled' offering (unfortunately I couldn't find an exact release date on this one) of that same proposed title:


This wouldn't be a bad time to review a number of the remaining 'previously solicited but later cancelled' offerings, so here's some of the ones that still haven't made it to print so far:

Another B&V TPB collection, previously solicited for a December 24, 2014 shipping date and later cancelled:


This one was intended as a hardcover collection reprinting the first six issues of ARCHIE'S GIRLS BETTY AND VERONICA (I don't have the intended release date):


Previously solicited for a January 20, 2016 shipping date and later cancelled:


This B&V TPB collection would have been in the form of a flip-book (with two "front covers" upside-down relative to each other), intended for a March 30, 2016 shipping date but later cancelled:


Two previous solicitations for KEVIN KELLER TPB collections that would have compiled the remainder of the existing published single issues:

Maybe we'll finally get to see those after the LIFE WITH KEVIN TPB collection of digital issues #1-4 sees print?



And finally a few Red Circle superhero/adventure series TPB collections solicited then cancelled that still haven't been resolicited:

The second Fox miniseries, THE FOX: FOX HUNT by Dean Haspiel and Mark Waid:


NEW CRUSADERS: DARK TOMORROW, a trade compilation from a miniseries completed (but never published as single issues) as a follow-up to NEW CRUSADERS: RISE OF THE HEROES:


And finally, a TPB collection of Tom DeFalco & Greg Scott's SAM HILL, PRIVATE EYE, which was released as a digital exclusive, but not as solicited for trade paperback:

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: November 15, 2017, 09:26:39 AM »
SCARLET TRACES VOL 02 TP
THE ROOK ARCHIVES VOL 02 HC
THE ROOK ARCHIVES VOL 03 HC
THE ART OF THE PULPS HC
FICTION HOUSE: FROM PULPS TO PANELS, FROM JUNGLES TO SPACE HC
ROM #13 & 14
FIRST STRIKE #0-6 (of 6)
FIRST STRIKE: MICRONAUTS #1 (one-shot)
FIRST STRIKE: ROM #1 (one-shot)
NOT BRAND ECHH #14 (one-shot)
THE HARVEY COMICS COMPANION by Mark Arnold TP
FUTURE QUEST PRESENTS: THE GALAXY TRIO VS. SPACE GHOST #4
BUG: THE ADVENTURES OF FORAGER #5  (of 6)
CASPER THE FRIENDLY GHOST #2
GREEN HORNET '66 MEETS THE SPIRIT #5 (of 5)
RASPUTIN: VOICE OF THE DRAGON #1 (of 5)
KONG ON THE PLANET OF THE APES #1 (of 6)
SIMPSONS COMICS #241
COUGAR AND CUB TP
SHIGERU MIZUKI'S KITARO VOL 04: KITARO'S STRANGE ADVENTURES TP

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General Discussion / Re: Sears/Kmart
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:44:38 AM »
That's a bummer. I remember going into a K-mart once and specifically asking a store clerk if they carried Archie digests, and the answer was "No", although that was a couple of years ago. I do remember seeing them about a year later in Walmart, but lately when I've been in there... once again, no Archie digests. Come to think of it, it's been a while since I've looked at Barnes & Noble, which was the only other place I knew of that I could reliably find them (other than special-ordering through my LCS) so who knows if B&N even carries them now. It would explain a lot.

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All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
« on: November 12, 2017, 06:30:13 AM »
Psychoanalysis of the people you know is probably not considered "normal" for any teenager, but that's Trula's thing. If any more proof were needed, for no particular reason on her part (it's not because she decided she didn't like them, or wanted revenge against them or anything) in "The Opinion Maker" (JUGHEAD #176), Trula decides to try an experiment in social modification to change what other people think about Betty and Veronica. Her interest is purely scientific, just to see if she can do it. I leave it to anyone to decide if that's "normal" or not. Yet in her own strange way, Trula's really a nice girl. When she offers Jughead a place to stay temporarily at her house, she doesn't do it (as Jughead is expecting) hoping to get anything out of it, it's done because she's sympathetic to his problems with his own family.

Trula's not like the other teenagers we know in Riverdale in that she's from a single-parent home. Her mother is an independent career woman, a successful psychologist and author, and Trula's the only character who has shown a strong desire to follow in a similar career path to her parent. Trula probably has a need to prove that her self-image isn't dependent on a relationship, like her mother, regardless of her interest in Jughead. She doesn't let her emotions rule her thoughts. Trula probably thinks the only thing necessary to get along in life is to understand how other people think and why they behave the way they do.

The thing about the Trula-Jughead relationship that's most fascinating is that it's more complex than that between any other two characters in Riverdale. Jughead considers her his archenemy, but Trula doesn't feel the same way about him. She LIKES him, as a girl. When Jughead describes her as "trouble", that's REALLY what he's talking about. For the most part, Jughead doesn't avoid girls because he's scared of them. TRULA actually does scare him, so by demonizing her he's putting up a front. But even though Jughead considers her his archenemy, he never once considers NOT buying her a Christmas present, something that boggles Archie's mind.

As a psychology student though, Jughead's unique mindset fascinates Trula endlessly. NOBODY else can figure Jughead out. Oh, they may THINK they can. Certainly every single person he knows is aware of his weakness for food, which is so much of an autonomic knee-jerk response that it comes up constantly in stories. But everything else about the way he thinks... no. Not even Archie, really, and he's his best friend. They can recognize a few general behavior patterns they've seen over and over again when it comes to Juggie, but they don't really understand the WHY of his behavior, like why Jughead would expend 5 times as much energy avoiding work as he would if he just gave into the situation and agreed to do the work. It's not the energy it takes to do the work. If you can talk him into something, he'll do it, or at least try to do it, as he agreed. But once he's decided he's NOT gonna do something, no one and nothing will change his mind, and that becomes a matter of principle for him.

When it comes to girls, there have been some that have pursued Jughead, but with Ethel, he merely has to avoid her, outrun her, or trick her in some way. If Juggie looks panicked sometimes when she's chasing him, it's merely the adrenaline of the immediate pursuit. Sometimes he relents and feels sympathy for her, when he sees how hard she tries, and decides to give her a break. What Trula manages to do that no other girl ever has is make Jughead expend a goodly portion of his thoughts thinking about HER, worrying about her, wondering what she's going to do next, and figuring out how he can resist falling prey to her traps. The one thing he CAN'T afford to do is avoid thinking about her. So to him, she's his "archenemy". After the original "Target: Jughead" story, Trula is never quite as aggressive in targeting Jughead, and maybe it's because she just feels like she's got too big of an advantage over him.

On one level, Trula is to Jughead as Jughead is to Reggie. Jughead can ALWAYS whoop Reggie's mental butt in a battle of wits, because he's figured out exactly what makes Reggie tick... how he thinks. And Trula can do the same to Jughead, which is what scares him. For every time Jughead swears up and down that Trula will never make him do this or that, he winds up doing it anyway. This is why Trula is the only girl who scares him, and what makes her his "archenemy" -- that she somehow understands Jughead's psychology better than he understands himself, and can get him to do things that he's consciously promised himself he won't do, so it feels like he's betrayed his own principles and acted in direct opposition to his conscious choices, or at least something he recognizes that he's against doing in principle.

At some point in the series of Trula stories, Jughead's paranoia over her becomes a bigger instigator for stories than anything Trula sets out to do. Jughead can figure out how Reggie thinks, because Reggie's a guy. Jughead has some idea of his own that he thinks he knows how girls think (most of which is just the negative stuff he hates about Veronica), but he actually has no clue how they really think, because he's not even interested in knowing -- girls are too alien to him, and he's never really bothered. What's the point? He's never considered he'd have any use for that information, so he's never even tried. And that's his great weakness when he comes up against Trula. He'll try to predict what she'll do, but he'll never ever actually attempt to understand her -- because he can't put himself in her place. It's simpler for him to believe there's no reason other than that she's just trying to torture him. Whether his brief time as her houseguest resulted in any change in his way of thinking is anyone's guess, since that's (almost) the last we've seen of her, but he should at least be grateful for her help.

All of the above, of course, refers specifically just to the "Craig Boldman Jughead" and how he behaves in those stories. It's just not possible to incorporate all that other stuff from the early '90s (to say nothing of the earlier stuff from the 1950s and 1960s) into a consistent character.

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All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
« on: November 12, 2017, 03:08:02 AM »
Trula Twyst as Jughead sees her: "trouble squared, cubed, and double-polygoned".



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NOTES FROM PSYCHOANALYSIS OF SUBJECT "J" (by T. Twyst):

Subject displays an active imagination, and a strong desire to cast himself in a favorable image to himself and others. Subject believes that he is being passively observed, and that his actions require justification in the form of a narrative commentary, acted out for the benefit of those observers, on events of his life.

Subject displays an involuntary strong emotional disturbance in reaction to the thought of "Trula Twyst", which causes him to break his self-defined character as an ersatz "Professor" (offering an explanation as calmly logical methodology) and disrupts his mental powers of concentration, as denoted by the logical progression of mathematical powers of ten (squared to cubed), to a non-sequitur association with nonsense-geometry ("double-polygoned"), as he symbolically casts aside his robes of professorial learning. Subject would like to believe he is a paragon of intelligence and knowledge, but when this self-delusion is shattered, he casts it aside along with his faith in his own rational ability, letting himself be guided by pure emotion.

All reactions of Subject J continue to progress according to behavioral predictions.

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All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
« on: November 11, 2017, 07:25:10 AM »
Not really related to Trula, but I came across this interesting short e-book (free to read) entitled ANALYZING JUGHEAD by Monique Jones. It doesn't really talk about Trula, nor is it the kind of psychoanalysis that Trula usually practices, but it's worth a look for free. I don't agree with half of what the author has to say (for some reason that escapes me, she spends 2 pages of her 25 page book talking about Jughead's suspenders and treating them in terms as if they were as iconic as his beanie or his S-shirt), but I just think it's kind of interesting that anything like this exists at all.

https://issuu.com/moniquej/docs/analyzingjugheadebook

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All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
« on: November 11, 2017, 05:39:23 AM »

I think a lot of his attitude towards women comes from seeing how Veronica (and others like Cheryl) treats Archie like crap even though he is too much of a lapdog for her (her fickleness doesn't help either).
Excellent point. Jughead sees his buddy as very pliable to girl's "wiles" (also one his strengths with them-he doesn't want to hurt any, though he does it when he sees other girls behind their backs), and he doesn't want to be treated like that. My deal with Trula is that she doesn't seem to have any flaws, which is of course not true. I seem to recall the story where Juhead stayed at her home when he was trying to prove a point to his parents about staying under their roof. We found out a little about Trula, where her parents were divorced. I think DR pointed out when she couldn't control them not staying together as a child, and she's been trying to make up for it ever since through her psychology.

I like a story where Trula gets hers, such as the one where she spreads rumors about Betty and Ronica, reversing what most people usually thought of the girls, saying Betty isn't as nice as she seems, while Ronica is much nicer than she appears, all to aid her study about people's reactions. Jughead got wind of it, and in the end, he poured some food on her in the cafeteria, and left her, all while doing it in a "gentle" manner.

I think that Jughead's friendship with Betty is the most genuine outside of Archie. Recall at the end of the classic Archie story "Decisions" (in my second album, near the front). He told Betty if he kissed any girl, it would be Betty. He also said if Archie has to like a girl, he'd prefer Betty for him, and Jughead would approve. Throughout the years, Jughead has virtually almost always helped Betty over Ronica in Betty's battles for Archie's attentions. In the most recent new Archie book, Jughead recalled a memory when they were all children, concerning Betty: Hot Dog being hit by a car, and was struggling to survive while they were all at the veterinarian's office. Archie, not understanding (though he tries), said the worse thing possible while comforting Jughead: "I know how you feel". Jughead dismissed Archie and Betty in a huff. Betty came back later and sat with Jughead while he worried about Hot Dog. He knows Betty's a good person, throughout both the classic and the new versions. That hasn't changed....

Actually, in the story you're referring to ("Psyche Out!", JUGHEAD #210) where Jughead moves in with Trula and her mother (author of pop-psych bestsellers) after he has a big fight with his dad, he cracks under the stress of a week's time waiting in anticipation for Trula to begin picking his brain. In reality though, Trula has gone out of her way to be a gracious and sympathetic host, avoiding asking Jughead any personal questions about his problems at home, but Jughead can't take the stress of not knowing what's going on in Trula's mind, and decides to move out. Before he does, he asks her directly why she didn't attempt to fish around in his psyche to find out what's been bugging him lately -- he's been expecting it for days on end. But instead Trula calmly explains that it would be rude of her as a host to get nosey and pry into his personal business -- if he'd wanted her help, all he'd have needed to do was ask her.  Despite her outwardly calm and unperturbed demeanor, Trula hasn't been totally unaffected by Jughead's stay at her house though -- when she spies THIS:

 -- She ultimately loses it and blows her top (it's little quirks like that of Jughead's that drive her up the wall). After Jughead has left, Trula is still curious about one thing, so she asks her mother why she so readily agreed to let Jughead stay with them. Her mother tells her that she wanted to observe Trula's own reactions to living in close quarters with Jughead for a prolonged time, as research material for a new book she's writing. What Trula has done to Jughead in the past, Trula's mom does to her (and we might infer from that, that this is just business as usual for Mrs. Twyst), which might explain something about Trula.

You're right about Betty, though. Jughead would like nothing better than to see his best pal give up this crazy idea of chasing Veronica Lodge, and settle down with a sweet, sensible, steady girlfriend who truly appreciates him, like Betty. It would be better for Archie, and it would de-complicate Jughead's life as well, but I also think he'd just like to see Betty be happy.

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: November 09, 2017, 05:46:34 AM »
RECENT & CURRENT MANGA SERIES THAT I'M GETTING: (including some I've pre-ordered or haven't finished reading yet)

   BATTLE ANGEL ALITA (Kodansha Comics)
   CAPTAIN HARLOCK: DIMENSIONAL VOYAGE (Seven Seas)
   CUTIE HONEY A-GO-GO! (Seven Seas)
   DEATH NOTE ALL-IN-ONE EDITION (VIZ Media)
   DEVILMAN Grimiore (Seven Seas)
   DEVILMAN VS. HADES (Seven Seas)
   DON'T MEDDLE WITH MY DAUGHTER (Seven Seas)
   DRAGONS RIOTING (Yen Press)
   FRANKEN-FRAN (Seven Seas)
   INFINI-T FORCE (Udon Entertainment)
   LONE WOLF & CUB OMNIBUS (Dark Horse Manga)
   KITARO (Drawn & Quarterly)
   MEGA MAN MASTERMIX (Udon Entertainment)
   NEW LONE WOLF & CUB (Dark Horse Manga)
   NURSE HITOMI'S MONSTER INFIRMARY (Seven Seas)
   ONE PUNCH MAN (Jump Comics)
   PLEASE TELL ME! GALKO-CHAN (Seven Seas)
   SAINT SEIYA: SAINTIA SHO (Seven Seas)
   STREET FIGHTER (Udon Entertainment)
   TIGER & BUNNY (VIZ Media)
   ULTRA KAIJU ANTROPOMORPHIC PROJECT (Seven Seas)
   ZOMBIES ASSEMBLE (Marvel Comics)

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All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
« on: November 08, 2017, 07:09:23 AM »
Why? Because she's the only person capable of getting the best of Jughead?  ;D
I think she gets too much the best of Jughead. Trula seems to do no wrong with him, completely crippling Jughead, seemingly almost all the time. Then again, Jughead allows himself to let her really get in his head, and he gets riled up, which makes it worse...

She outwits him. She seems to be the only one who can. When she's not, then it's business as usual. Which means Jughead Jones outwitting everyone else. Seems only fair. It prevents Jughead from getting too complacent and smug in his own superiority. A little humility is good for the soul.

And if you read the stories closely, she really isn't the Machiavellian she-demon Jughead imagines her to be. He obviously fascinates her because he's different, but at the same time he's so sure of himself, that no one can make him change or do anything he doesn't want to. He just seems to invite toppling from his position as the king of the hill. Sometimes it almost seems like in a weird way, she's doing it for his own good.

And other times, she does... nothing at all. She doesn't have to, because he's so obsessed by his perception of her.

There's no doubt about her motives, actually. She admits in one of her earliest appearances that she's "just wild about him". She's not going to do the "chasing" thing or try to work her "feminine wiles" on him, because she quickly realizes his Achilles' Heel is his attitude towards women in general. I might as well just come right out and say it. Jughead is sexist. He's never met a woman he considers his equal. Oh, he may LIKE Betty, but he doesn't consider her his equal. Veronica's buttons are just too easily labeled for him to resist pushing. Ethel's only challenge to him is her persistence and physical stamina. Beyond that, Jughead considers himself above anyone who displays any emotional weakness for the opposite sex (men OR women) and considers himself invulnerable. Trula wins because she eschews any challenge that meets his expectations. She won't try anything "feminine" that he's expecting. She'll only duel him in the one area which he considers an exclusively masculine domain -- pure intelligence. The ability to "size up your opponent", analyze their weaknesses, and predict their reactions. Jughead's been doing it to Reggie and Veronica for years, which is why nothing galls him more than to be on the receiving end. And while he may swear up and down that she's evil personified, he actually respects her on some unconscious level that he refuses to recognize.

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: November 08, 2017, 07:04:25 AM »
PLEASE TELL ME GALKO CHAN GN VOL 04
KAIJUMAX SEASON 3 #4 (of 6)
STREET FIGHTER VS DARKSTALKERS #6 (OF 8 )
THE X-FILES: JFK DISCLOSURE #1 (of 2)
DIE KITTY DIE: HOLLYWOOD OR BUST #3 (of 4)
ROCK CANDY MOUNTAIN #5
HACK/SLASH VS. VAMPIRELLA #2 (of 5)
KINGSMAN: THE RED DIAMOND #3 (of 6)
FIGHTING AMERICAN #2
DETECTIVE COMICS #968
WONDER WOMAN #34
ACTION COMICS #991
MASTER OF KUNG FU #126
MOON KNIGHT #188
ZOMBIES ASSEMBLE 2 #4 (of 4)
COMIC SHOP TALES BOOK ONE: GRAND OPENING TP
DEVILMAN GRIMOIRE VOL. 1 TP

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General Discussion / Re: Sears/Kmart
« on: November 04, 2017, 02:23:01 AM »
People are thinking the malls are gonna have to allow gyms to move in in order to survive, now.

Hmmm. I guess it brings people into the mall on a daily basis, but then again I'd think that after you work out you'd be too tired to shop.

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