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  • BettyReggie: My monthly Midtown Comics came today.
    June 22, 2018, 05:11:54 PM
  • Vegan Jughead: I'm gonna get it but I'm waiting for it to be at Barnes and Noble which I think will be July 10th or so. They released it to the direct market (comic shops) first.
    June 22, 2018, 09:15:13 AM
  • irishmoxie: Anyone get Archie at Riverdale Vol 1?
    June 21, 2018, 09:43:56 PM
  • BettyReggie: 112 Days until Wednesday 10th 2018 ,  Riverdale Season #3 on The CW at 8pm.
    June 20, 2018, 05:28:15 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: And another one: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:42:07 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: Riverdale spoof: [link]
    June 14, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Roughing It!" from B&V Friends #262: [link]
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  • DeCarlo Rules: @irishmoxie -- It's definitely complete. All six of the 1958-59 Sy Reit/Bob White original issues, plus the feature-length "Good Guys of the Galaxy" by Tom DeFalco & Fernando Ruiz from ARCHIE #655, and three 5-page digest shorts that guest-starred Cosmo -- and the complete first issue of the Ian Flynn/Tracy Yarley COSMO (2017) thrown in for good measure. It follows the same layout/format as the previous JUGHEAD'S TIME POLICE, even though that didn't carry the "Archie Comics Presents..." trade dress. Not a bad buy for $11.
    June 14, 2018, 01:08:59 AM
  • irishmoxie: Anyone get the Cosmo book that came out today? Any good?
    June 13, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
  • Cosmo: Ah man....and I was worried I was the last enthusiast for ERB's stuff. I'm currently rereading my Dell Tarzan books. Really good fun! It took a while to complete that run.
    June 12, 2018, 06:51:53 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: ...Marvel's earlier JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS in there, so the DE Tarzan comics need to go in a different box, and SHEENA (also a recent DE title) and DC's RIMA THE JUNGLE GIRL will help fill up that box.
    June 11, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Recently. DE's unauthorized LORD OF THE JUNGLE Tarzan adaptations (and its authorized THE GREATEST ADVENTURE) won't fit into my existing box of previous Tarzan comics from Gold Key, DC, and Dark Horse, so I have to start a new box. Logically these get filed with DE's unauthorized WARLORD OF MARS comics (including DEJAH THORIS) and their authorized JOHN CARTER, WARLORD OF MARS. But I also want to squeeze Marve;
    June 11, 2018, 07:38:48 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Interesting. I tend not to group titles by publisher at all, if the characters were not created as work-for-hire (meaning the publisher is legally considered the 'author' of the character). Do they belong to that publisher's "universe" (assuming it has one)? There are some publishers like Dynamite Entertainment where the vast majority of the titles they publish are licensed, and thus were "inherited" from other publishers. Therefore it makes more sense to me to group them together in boxes with similar characters. Flash Gordon, The Phantom, and Mandrake comics (regardless of who the actual publisher was) go together in the same box because they're all classic adventure heroes licensed from Hearst Entertainment (formerly King Features Syndicate). Pulp fiction heroes like The Shadow, Doc Savage, and The Spider (regardless of the fact that the latter did not originate with the same publisher as the first two) also get grouped together. Space considerations allowing, Tarzan (and other Edgar Rice Burroughs adaptations) might share the same box with Sheena and Rima, but NOT with Ka-Zar, because he's a Marvel Universe character.
    June 11, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
  • rusty: I do keep all Star Trek series together in their own section and all Star Wars books together.  I also keep all 2000AD titles together and manga books get their own section.  For titles that have switched publishers, I usually keep them all with the publisher that I identify them with the most.  Tarzan has been published by a variety of publishers, but I keep them with Dell/Gold Key.  Conan is starting to get a bit close with all the success Dark Horse has had, but I still identify Conan more with Marvel.
    June 11, 2018, 06:27:26 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Believe it or not, I even have a box labeled "Pseudo-manga" that contains comics published by American companies and created by American creators like Astro Boy & Racer X (Now Comics), Battle of the Planets (Gold Key & Top Cow/Image), Captain Harlock (Malibu), Godzilla (Dark Horse) and Ultraman. I just want to keep those separate from the boxes of real translated manga in floppy comic format.
    June 11, 2018, 03:34:17 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Well. the problem is when you get titles with licensed characters that aren't owned by the publisher. So if you collect Star Trek comics, you'd have different series published by Gold Key, Marvel, DC, and IDW (and I probably missed one in there). It doesn't make sense to me to put them in different boxes by publisher, but to each his own. Disney comics would be another example. There are even some instances where if I like a certain artist enough, I will put all his work regardless of publisher or characters into one box, like Paul Gulacy, Steve Rude, or Mike Allred (and file them chronologically from older to newer, rather than alphabetically). Those are examples where my interest in the creator far exceeds my relative interest in whatever characters are involved.
    June 11, 2018, 03:14:29 PM
  • rusty: That makes sense.  There are many ways that people can file books.  What I do is file by company or category and then alphabetically within each section.  My first category is Richie Rich then Archie, then other Harvey titles, then Disney, then other humor/kids books, then by company (unless it is a company where I don't have very many books from them.  Star Trek and Star Wars each get their own section as well.  I will probably revamp a bit when I do my next major sort/merge.  The biggest section by far for me is DC.
    June 11, 2018, 09:28:59 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: I don't even file my comics alphabetically. I file them according to how closely they're related to other titles, but it's all dependent on the number of issues I have of any given title, and what will fit into a single box. Fpr ACP comics I just put all the short-run series (whether an actual miniseries or just a not particularly successful title) into one box. Even though some of those short run series star Jughead, and I could as easily file those together with the main JUGHEAD title in another box. For longer running ACP titles, "girl" titles are sorted into different boxes than "boy" titles. Eventually when I have enough issues of BETTY (and BETTY AND ME and BETTY'S DIARY) they'll get their own box, and VERONICA will get her own box.
    June 10, 2018, 09:49:06 AM
  • rusty: I file Jughead under J and Reggie under R in all of their incarnations, though I do file the original Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen books under S since that keeps them with the Superman books and also because they kept that title throughout their entire run.  If anyone wants to look up Jughead or Reggie in Overstreet, though, they will have to look under A for the early issues.
    June 10, 2018, 07:56:27 AM
  • BettyReggie: I can't wait to get that Reggie book. It's coming out the day after my 39th Birthday.
    June 10, 2018, 06:42:06 AM

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Ironically, the series finally gets some good interior artwork (by Sanya Anwar) in its final three issues, beginning with #8 in July. That's some kind of cockeyed thinking they've got at ACP. Usually, you want to lead off with the best artist you can (barely) afford to hire, and hopefully, once you've hooked a group of readers, then you can follow up with your lesser-talented artists (and pay them less). VIXENS saves the best interior artist it's had for the final three issues (which isn't even a complete story arc in itself), parts 3 through 5 of "The Hunted".

Of course, no amount of artistic talent is going to improve the writing. Come to think of it, that's just about the case of what happened with IDW's Jem and the Holograms. The final three issues (with artwork by Gisele) were the best-looking of the bunch, but too little too late.

General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: June 21, 2018, 01:14:33 AM »
Archie's Girls BETTY AND VERONICA #305, 310, 345
BETTY AND VERONICA (1987) #47, 56, 59, 61, 63, 72, 80, 104
CHERRY'S JUBILEE #1, 3, & 4 (of 4)
CHERRY DELUXE #1 (one-shot)
JUGHEAD #119 (Aug 1999)
CABLE #158
(of 5)
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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: June 20, 2018, 01:27:42 AM »
ARCHIE'S SUPERTEENS VS CRUSADERS #1 (of 2) - Originally I was really disappointed to discover that Archie & friends would not be drawn in the traditional style. That aside, the artwork is some of the best I've seen on the characters since everything went "New Riverdale", and more importantly, the story has the saving grace of humor on its side. I guess I have to not think too much about stuff like Jughead carrying around an issue of MIGHTY CRUSADERS #1 from 1966 and handling it casually (it's not even bagged or boarded) like it was this week's issue or something (yet I know the story is taking place in the present time, because there are references to cell phones and videogames). The Crusaders, for their part, appear pretty much as they did back in 1966, costumes and all. I still think the story would have been funnier if they'd contrasted the styles of artwork between the Superteens (cartoon-style) and the Crusaders (adventure-style), but it looks like they went for a middle-ground modern (but still slightly retro) art style, which worked okay for what is was... all in all, taking into consideration what I've seen of the art styles in other recent Archie comics, I'd have to say things could have turned out a lot worse on the art front, so I was generally pretty happy with it. Ian Flynn's story is lighthearted, with some tongue-in-cheek dialogue, which seemed like a reasonable compromise. (I shudder to think of what it might have been like a couple of years ago when they were so editorially enamored with the whole "Dark Circle" approach.)

If I had one gripe about this, it's that it was all over with so fast. It seemed like the story had barely gotten started, when all of a sudden I'd reached the last page and "TO BE CONTINUED", leaving me hanging and frustrated until issue #2. Seeing as how it was only a 2-issue series, it would have been a lot more satisfying to see this as a double-sized one-shot special. I'm guessing those decisions all involve the marketing department, and questions like "How many variant covers can we squeeze out of this thing?". Not that I can really blame them, as variant covers seem to be the only thing keeping the floppy comic format afloat for ACP. I guess that neatly solved my dilemma of whether to file this with my Archie's Superteens comics or my Mighty Crusaders comics (they're in 2 different boxes), since I've now got 2 different covers and I can file one copy in each different box.

And there's a full page ad in the back of this comic for the upcoming ARCHIE 1941 series. Which I'm just going to pass on, unless when it comes out someone can convince me is actually funny.

General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: June 19, 2018, 09:17:39 AM »
  Go Nagai's DEVILMAN VS HADES VOL 01 (of 3 tankobon) by Team Moon
  ASTRA: LOST IN SPACE VOL 03 (of 5 tankobon) by Kenta Shinohara
  Shotaro Ishinomori's KIKAIKER 02[CODE: ZERO TWO] VOLS 3-7 (of 7 tankobon) by Meimu

They don't need to go bankrupt or be sold (and I hardly think DC or Marvel would even be interested). They could simply stop publishing comics. It's not exactly the same thing. They can simply remain as owners of the intellectual property rights to a group of characters, licensing those characters to whomever is interested in using them... whether that be another comic book company (like IDW) that wants to publish reprints or new stories using those characters, or a television network (like CW) that wants to make a TV series like RIVERDALE, or any other company (like Rachel Antonoff or Funko) that wants to produce any kind of merchandise based on their characters.

You might have a good point there

To clarify further, bankruptcy would only be the result of having a company so deeply in debt that they were unable to pay their creditors. In such cases, it's necessary to liquidate the company's assets in order to satisfy at least a portion of that debt, and that can sometimes be done by selling the company (provided that they can find a willing buyer). No one here knows that ACP is in debt for a fact, only that their publishing efforts are not generating lots of money (as evidenced by the short-term nature of their attempts to start new ongoing series). If they're not making a decent profit in the publishing business, cutting their overhead costs (the money they have to pay to printers and distributors) would be logical, and they could do that by suspending publishing operations, while still maintaining the aspect of intellectual property ownership that's practically PURE profit -- licensing. ACP assumes no risk when another company licenses their characters -- the worst that can happen is that they won't MAKE a lot of money from the arrangement, but they can't LOSE any money, because the licensee assumes ALL the risk of financial investment in whatever product they're going to produce using the licensor's characters.

And you know what my reaction is ,I think this could be a problem, It seems that Archie comics latest series are[/font]  mostly short lived or remain on hiatus even the Archie horror lineup like Afterlife with Archie and Chilling adventures of Sabrina remain on hiatus that Afterlife’s possible upcoming (and likely final) storyarc Archie is Legends is not published yet. Especially that the main series Archie is currently on hiatus. And the company keeps changing the publishing lineup  while sales are likely on decline even though their hit series with CW Riverdale is a hit. And they are likely going to make more new series and miniseries which they call ‘experimentation’ to have Archie comic characters set in different settings, I mean I am okay with it but their series continue to be either on hiatus, short-lived series ,or be a miniseries.

I mean if they keep this up, Archie comics will likely go towards bankruptcy or  end up being sold to either DC, Marvel or IDW.

They don't need to go bankrupt or be sold (and I hardly think DC or Marvel would even be interested). They could simply stop publishing comics. It's not exactly the same thing. They can simply remain as owners of the intellectual property rights to a group of characters, licensing those characters to whomever is interested in using them... whether that be another comic book company (like IDW) that wants to publish reprints or new stories using those characters, or a television network (like CW) that wants to make a TV series like RIVERDALE, or any other company (like Rachel Antonoff or Funko) that wants to produce any kind of merchandise based on their characters.

I was never a fan of Betty and Veronica as biker chicks to begin with. I always thought of these ladies as too classy for that trash, so I'm not terribly disappointed that this title didn't work out.

I think I predicted it wouldn't run more than 10 issues. Just enough to compile into 2 trade paperbacks.

The problem isn't so much the concept as the execution. It doesn't feel well thought-out, and the characters don't seem to behave in ways that are true to their characters as established in the classic Archie comics. Betty in particular seems to have some serious issues, and resorts to violence at the drop of a hat. There doesn't seem to be any room for lighthearted humor in this comic as it exists.

If you tossed the idea of "B&V as biker chicks" at Dan Parent, I have every confidence that he'd find lots of ways to have fun with that, while still keeping them recognizable in characterization to the B&V we're all familiar with.

General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: June 13, 2018, 05:12:10 PM »
PLASTIC MAN #1 (of 6)

- Awesome find! I loved it! May do a more detailed review later, time permitting.
CHERYL BLOSSOM #27 - Cheryl is trapped in a hedge maze with Veronica! One of the fairly rare stories where it's just the two of them, without Betty or Archie. Cheryl and Jason crash a Halloween party wearing the same costumes as Veronica and Archie (oh yeah, it's NOT a coincidence).
ARCHIE & FRIENDS #11 - Chuck gets a pet iguana, but Nancy is NOT thrilled. Sabrina has problems taking care of Cleara's invisible dog.
JUGHEAD #53, 137
VERONICA #20, 21, 45, 70
- What was up with that weird "Whimsical Rich Girl" period (as it says over the cover logo masthead of #20 & 21) where the word "whimsy" is referred to often in dialogue, and oddball characters like Sassy Thrasher, Aerobic Liz, and New Age Crystal show up?
BETTY AND ME #119, 199, 200
BETTY #3, 59, 86
- Another one of those "Archie's Angels" stories. I've lost track of how many of these there are... at least four, I think, counting the one(s) from the 1970s. The most often reprinted one is that story "Melvin's Angels" from AGB&V #277 (Jan. 1979). That's the one where B&V go to investigate a health spa and really get worked over by the head masseuse, the muscle-y Olga (only to discover that Melvin sent them to the wrong spa by mistake). Then there's this one from B&V Spec 44, inspired by the movie remake of the old TV series, which was followed up by a direct sequel in B&V Spec 59 (in #44, Brigette Reilly is the 3rd "Angel"... in #59, she's replaced by a much more logical candidate for 3rd Angel... Ginger Lopez). I could swear that there's at least one more of these that had Tomoko Yoshida (or was it Kumi Tamura?) as the 3rd Angel. I also kind of vaguely recall another older story (not connected to the one-shot "Melvin's Angels") that parodied the original TV series.

...and on top of all those, I still have another 10 issues of BETTY AND VERONICA (from both series) that I haven't read yet! Conditions on these were mostly VG to Fine+, so not bad. Can't believe I found a copy of THE CARNEYS at last! All these for 50 cents each.

The wise man is content in his own wisdom, and has no need or desire to prove anything to others or insist on the superiority of his own philosophy over theirs. The only thing he would prove is the hubris that attends his own flawed humanity.

Oh, not this again. Yes, no one understands the Meaning of Life. But somehow that doesn't stop people from preaching at others that their own understanding of the Meaning of Life is still better than mine. If you really want to do the world a big favor, make a funny movie about it like Monty Python did. At least they had a positive measurable impact by generating some laughs for people.

Bumping this thread because I updated the original post with comic shop release dates (scroll back to top of page).

I just pre-ordered all those "Archie Comics Presents..." TPs (well, up through LIFE WITH ARCHIE, which is as far ahead as Diamond Comics solicitations go so far) and Vol 4 of ARCHIE'S BIG BOOK. But that's the direct market comic shop ordering system. Meanwhile, the book trade obviously gets solicitations (which for typical trade collections is 3 to 4 months in advance of shipping dates in the direct market) far in advance of comic shops, so they are dangling products before our eyes that won't actually appear until January or February of 2019, seven or eight months from now. Presuming all human life on this planet isn't extinguished by a large asteroid collision in the the intervening time.

General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: June 08, 2018, 07:25:51 PM »
WEEK OF 06-06-18 (so far):
True Believers: ANT-MAN & THE WASP: THE BIRTH OF GIANT-MAN #1 [reprints Tales To Astonish #35 & 49]

ANT-MAN & THE WASP: LIVING LEGENDS #1 - The story turned out to be a sequel to Tales To Astonish #49! Pretty good old-school superhero one-shot.
 -- Well, they gotta push Ant-Man & Wasp, 'cause they got a movie out now. The original Ant-Man (Hank Pym) & Wasp have long been among my favorite characters in the Marvel U, so it's nice to see them getting some attention, after decades of relative neglect. Even if most of it is focused on Scott Lang (Ant-Man II), who I also like, although not as much as Pym. Pym's history has taken so many twists and turns, and he wound up creating new heroes left and right. First he became Ant-Man; then he turned his girlfriend into the Wasp. Then he became GIAnt-Man, and then after getting stuck at 12' tall, changed his name to Goliath. Then he regained control of his size, and then he went a little split-personality and became the (normal-sized) superhero Yellowjacket. But then he couldn't decide which superhero identity he wanted, and became Ant-Man again... and then Goliath again. Along the way, he kept passing along his old identities and powers to other characters: for a while, Hawkeye became the new Goliath, and then Hank Pym's old lab partner Bill Foster became Black Goliath. Then Scott Lang became the second Ant-Man, and then Rita DeMara became the second Yellowjacket. When the original Wasp was thought dead after Secret Invasion, Hank Pym himself took on the Wasp identity to honor his dead wife's memory, and even teamed up with a third Ant-Man. And now it seems like Hank Pym is the one currently thought dead (yeah, like that'll ever last), and it was discovered that Pym has a Russian daughter by his previous marriage (his former wife was killed by "Commies"... it was a Cold War thing, you had to be there), and she (Nadia Pym) has become the new Wasp, who teams up with Scott Lang (Ant-Man II; it seems like the third one retired) in the following Mark Waid-written miniseries:

ANT-MAN & THE WASP #1 (of 5) - It was okay. Art was acceptable, nothing really special though. Hard to know where Waid is going with this story of Scott Lang (A-M 2) and Nadia Pym (Wasp 2). There wasn't really anything wrong with the story, about the two accidentally getting stuck in the Microverse (or one of the microverses, there seem to be several), but I guess I'll just have to see how it plays out, since it's only five issues. If I like it at the end, I'll buy the trade paperback as a keeper.

CAPTAIN AMERICA #703 - The penultimate issue of Waid's last arc on the series. At first I was overjoyed, having loved his previous run on Cap, plus his more recent, very long run on DAREDEVIL which ended a few years back. The first arc, which pitted Cap against the familiar Spider-Man foe Kraven the Hunter, was great. And then it all got weird in the second arc, with Captain American thrust into some dystopian future U.S. The third arc is similar to the second, but this time it's a seeming utopia, instead. Only... Captain America isn't IN the story. It supposedly about his future descendents, and there's no one in the future running around in a Captain America costume. The triumphant return of Waid just doesn't FEEL like a Cap story, so it's a kind of q big letdown after the first arc.

DOCTOR STRANGE #1 - Dr. Strange... without his magic. In outer space. Don't know what Waid's thinking on this one, but it seems like he's grasping at straws in an attempt to find something never done with the character before.

INFINITY COUNTDOWN #4 (of 5) - Okay, I'm KINDA following this with vagueish interest, because it involves a few of my long-time favorite 'cosmic' Marvel heroes. Probably a good idea that they left Thanos OUT of this one.

IMMORTAL HULK #1 - NO. Sorry, I'm done. They just can't stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Just leave it alone.

B & V FRIENDS JUMBO COMICS DIGEST #263 - Good stuff. Josie stories always welcome. I know I had mpre stuff to say about the stories, but now I've waited too long to write this, and thinking about some other comics I read just crowded it out of my head. Maybe if I have time, I'll flip through it again and revisit those thoughts.

WONDER WOMAN ANNUAL #2 - Okay. I've only got a couple more issues to go on the current WW story arc. then I'll drop it.

MAN OF STEEL #1 & 2 (of 6) - 2 out of 6 was all I needed to make a decision. At least it was a quick read. With the usual trademarked Bendis plot-hook gimmicks. I'll bail out before I start and save myself the frustration later.

DC NATION #1 - I had a rant about DC's recent line-wide shakeup all ready in my head, but now I'm too tired. I'll save it for next week or something.


Still have a bunch of manga tankobon and some Ant-Man trade pb collections in my stack for later.

Hmmm.... it appears I'll have to recheck all those release dates (all of which were taken from the Penguin Random House website, which distributes ACP trade collections to the booksellers' market).

I see already that (at least for comic shop customers) THE COMPLETE COSMO THE MERRY MARTIAN TP is due on June 13, rather than the date given on Penguin Random's website (I wouldn't think the difference in release dates would vary more than 2 or 3 days at most between comic shops and book retailers). Maybe that one title is a fluke, I don't know. When I get some time, I'll recheck the others against Diamond Comics' scheduled release dates.

General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: June 06, 2018, 02:05:11 PM »

FLASH/SPEED BUGGY #1 (one-shot)

  Shintaro Kago's SUPER-DIMENSIONAL LOVE GUN TP (short stories)
  Baron Yoshimoto's THE TROUBLEMAKERS TP (short stories)

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