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  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "The Best of Buds", a B&V story from 2011 [link]
    February 16, 2018, 09:50:56 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: @irishmoxie -- If they are indeed reprinting those early B&V Spectaculars from the Archie Giant Series, I'd agree it's a good choice (although it makes me wonder why they'd bypass the Betty & Veronica Summer Fun issues, which would be even more desirable to have). The early Life With Archie issues are a good choice as well, and I'll be buying both of those collections. Archie at Riverdale High, one of the dullest titles, is more of a puzzling choice. I won't be buying that one.
    February 16, 2018, 05:48:41 AM
  • irishmoxie: I own all of B&V Spectacular and most of the later issues of Life with Archie but I would definitely get these collections as they are easier to read without worrying about tearing the pages of fragile comics. Digital would be even better for me.
    February 15, 2018, 04:27:51 PM
  • irishmoxie: I don't see that classic B&V Vol 1 from the 50s up for pre-order on Amazon anymore. So it looks like they've ditched that idea for now.
    February 15, 2018, 04:26:14 PM
  • irishmoxie: I think their idea was to go with the more "edgy" Classic Archie ie fantasy stories from Life with Archie. I haven't read many of the Archie at Riverdale High books but my impression was that they were the "issue" books focusing on a particular issue pertinent to teens like protesting school lunches or something.
    February 15, 2018, 04:19:01 PM
  • irishmoxie: I suspect they will start the Spectacular collection with the Dan Parent stuff because that is more distinguishable. Older B&V Spectacular stuff is very similar to regular B&V.
    February 15, 2018, 04:17:08 PM
  • rusty: Dark Horse could still have the rights, even if they are not using them.  Archie may be thinking that the Life With Archie and Archie at Riverdale High books wi be more marketable than the older comics.  If so, I would agree with that thinking.  Cosmo is an interesting choice for a collection, but maybe they are hoping to capitalize on the new series or have other plans.
    February 15, 2018, 08:28:49 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: They also have "Cosmo: The Complete Merry Martian" up for pre-order!  How many of these things are in the works? This could be cool, but as DeCarlo Rules says, it's some kind of weird titles they're starting with.
    February 15, 2018, 07:12:42 AM
  • Vegan Jughead: At least these don't say they'll be black and white!  It says they're  "presented in the new higher-end format of Archie Comics Presents".  That sounds promising if they execute it well, and, you know, actually produce and release the books.
    February 15, 2018, 07:11:06 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: I'm not really sure if the B&V Spectacular collection goes back to include the individual B&V Spec issues from the Archie Giant Series, or starts with #1 of the 1990s series, either.
    February 15, 2018, 12:11:39 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Dark Horse has only really done the 1940s (and early 1950s) ARCHIE and 2 volumes of JUGHEAD, and they haven't solicited a new volume in a couple of years. ACP could certainly start with any title (Archie's Girls B&V, or Archie's Pals 'n' Gals, for instance) besides those two.
    February 15, 2018, 12:08:18 AM
  • rusty: Are the rights to the older titles still tied up with Dark Horse maybe?
    February 14, 2018, 03:54:08 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Seems odd that they'd start off a line of chronological reprint volumes with titles other than the main ones. Whatever happened to the trade collecting the earliest issues of Archie's Girls Betty and Veronica?
    February 14, 2018, 03:49:04 AM
  • irishmoxie: Amazon has pre-orders up for Life with Archie, Betty and Veronica Spectacular, and Archie at Riverdale High Vol 1's.
    February 13, 2018, 06:58:40 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "The New Archies": "Loose Lips Stops Slips" [link]
    February 10, 2018, 09:48:07 PM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Coming in August: ARCHIE'S BIG BOOK VOL 4: Fairy Tales. While many of these stories have been much-reprinted in three earlier B&V trade collections, due to the page count this will be the largest collection of these stories so far (and the first time any of these stories is reprinted in standard comic book page size). The BIG BOOK trade collections must be doing well for ACP for them to reprint four of them in the space of a year, so I urge people to support these TPBs if you want to continue to see more of them down the road.
    February 09, 2018, 04:13:16 AM
  • DeCarlo Rules: Coming in August: ARCHIE
    February 09, 2018, 04:09:28 AM
  • Tuxedo Mark: Loved Cheryl in tonight's ep. She was surprisingly supportive and caring toward Betty. :smitten:
    February 07, 2018, 10:12:25 PM
  • Tuxedo Mark: My review of "Beach Blanket Bash-Up" from Betty and Veronica #255 [link]
    February 03, 2018, 10:58:35 AM
  • irishmoxie: DeCarlo Rules: saw your fan letter in the back of Super 'Suckers issue 3.
    February 01, 2018, 09:40:36 PM

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All About Archie / Re: "The Archies" will end with issue #7
« on: Today at 04:21:47 PM »
I think my basic problem with most of the new Archie Comics is that I really don't understand the mindset of the approach to the characters at all. I would make the single exception of JUGHEAD to that statement, because it seems like someone rightly acknowledged that you just CAN'T approach Jughead as a realistic character or try to interpret him seriously, because his basic defining characteristics absolutely defy that. So what you got instead was a re-interpretion using a different type of approach to humor (as opposed to the classic, slapstick/situation comedy approach).

When I look at the other new Archie Comics (not talking about the superheroes or Cosmo here), I just have... no response. No emotional reaction or connection with it in any way. To me they just seem like oddities that I don't know what to make of. I mean, they attempt to present some sort of functional continuity that can be followed in the usual way of sequential storytelling, but I constantly feel like I just walked into a party where I was told all my old friends would be there -- but looking all around me, all I see is a room full of strangers wearing these stickers that say "HELLO My Name Is ARCHIE" or "HELLO My Name Is Betty", "HELLO My Name Is Veronica", etc. and I'm just staring at them and thinking "Who the heck ARE these people, really?" It's this weird unsettling place where there are bits and parts where they seem to confirm who they claim to be, yet there are just as many strange, unfamiliar things about them making every moment I spend in this room an analytical guessing game. So there's no emotional reaction to what's going on here, it's just me watching stuff happen from the distant POV of a very detached observer.

And what pops into my head is the thought "Is this what non-comics reading people see when you show them a comic book?" Sure, they can read the text and understand it, and know that those lines on the page represent people going about, doing things and moving through space over time. But in the end, they hand it back to you with this blank expression of "Yeah, I understood it I suppose... but so what?"

The other thing that pops into my head is the impression that if I hadn't read comics in years and years, and didn't know stuff about how they're created, who the creators are, and how the industry works and so forth, but was familiar with the older icons of comic books, and you handed me a copy of ARCHIE, my first reaction would probably be something like "Marvel Comics publishes ARCHIE now??" That's what they look like upon seeing them for the first time, as if somehow Marvel (or DC) had licensed Archie -- how they'd approach it and reinterpret it from their perspective. And to be sure, a lot of Marvel and DC's iconic characters now strike me almost the same way, as far as how they're being interpreted currently, and I have the same strange feeling of detachment towards characters which once excited me. Hello, do I know you? But at least the Marvel and DC characters have evolved away from from their familiar selves over years and years of change, and not literally overnight.

In the end, the things I would be expecting and looking to get out of reading an Archie comic book are just nowhere to be found in the new ones.


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Anybody else got this? It's the one where The Gang are following Ronica around the world to ski resorts. I've seen this before in other Archie digests. Why doesn't ACP make sure they're giving us the stories in their whole form? Somebody's not editing right. I mean, we've seen words being misspelled and such, but splitting stories is outright incompetence....  >:(

You mean it's a story which breaks down into several chapters, but somehow or other they didn't print the chapters together one after the other,  but instead spread them out and interspersed other reprints between the chapters? Or did they only print one chapter of a multi-chapter story and forget about the rest of it altogether?
Both. They actually did both...

Could it possibly one of those rare continued stories where the next part originally appeared in the following issue (and would presumably be reprinted in the next issue of the same digest)? Or did they edit the story it in such a way that at least the story ended on one of those "punch line" gags?

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Harvey and Ivy meet Betty and Veronica actually kept my attention more than the Vixens series but both are series I only read if I'm bored.

Hmm... it worked exactly the opposite for me, and by the time I had gotten to the end of H&I/B&V #1, I had completely lost interest in the idea of reading #2. Maybe that's because I DO like Harley & Ivy, and it seems like they just tossed the idea out there and handed it off to whoever was free to write and draw it, like it wasn't worth bothering to get a 'name' writer and artist. I think if that if someone like Jimmy Palmiotti and Amanda Conner had been given the assignment it could have been great, or if they'd given that series to Adam Hughes to draw and gotten a script with a sense of humor it could have worked, too. They didn't even need to involve creators who'd have put a big dent in the budget -- Chip Zdarksy (or Dan Slott) and Audrey Mok (or Guillem March) probably would have done a good job of it without breaking their bankbook. Even better if they'd gone with the animated Bruce Timm versions of Harley and Ivy and gotten someone like Ty Templeton and Rick Burchett to do it. Talk about wasted potential! It just feels like they figured they could paste the logos for H&I and B&V on the cover and sell it just on the basis of the names alone and having a few variant cover versions, and like the actual writing and artwork was more or less an afterthought. Normally I like Paul Dini as a writer, but the whole plot idea was just plain dumb.

Then, just to rub a little more salt in the wound, they had to give you just a glimpse of what the whole thing could have looked like had they chosen to travel down "the road not taken"....  >:(



I'm still waffling on VIXENS and probably won't settle on an opinion until it's over.

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Reviews / Re: PTF Reviews Super Suckers #4
« on: Today at 01:05:07 AM »
I could have sworn that Kelly's last name had been mentioned before in passing somewhere in issues #1 or #2, but maybe I'm just imagining that. I'd have to get them out to check.

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All About Archie / Re: Story Jumps In Newest Archie Jumbo Digest
« on: February 16, 2018, 11:56:37 PM »
Anybody else got this? It's the one where The Gang are following Ronica around the world to ski resorts. I've seen this before in other Archie digests. Why doesn't ACP make sure they're giving us the stories in their whole form? Somebody's not editing right. I mean, we've seen words being misspelled and such, but splitting stories is outright incompetence....  >:(

You mean it's a story which breaks down into several chapters, but somehow or other they didn't print the chapters together one after the other,  but instead spread them out and interspersed other reprints between the chapters? Or did they only print one chapter of a multi-chapter story and forget about the rest of it altogether?

One thing I've noticed in some stories is that a page ends on a gag, and that functionally, that could actually be the end of the story, but instead it continues on for more pages in the same vein with additional "punch lines" along the way based on the initial idea before getting to the end. It occurred to me that the story construction could actually be purposefully designed that way so that there's an option to edit the story and reprint it with fewer pages, as long as it ends on one of the "punch line" panels. Then again, with some of the newer 5-page shorts the basic story idea almost seems like a throwaway, where it feels like the setup would have allowed it to continue the situation beyond where it ends on Page 5 with a joke -- the story seems like it has just barely gotten started, and could have continued to develop a series of gags based on the original idea that it started with. Some of the newer Dan Parent stories leave me feeling that way, like he could have continued on for another 5 or 10 pages with more developments on the same idea, because it was a good idea that was barely exploited to its potential advantage for humor before coming to a quick end.

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All About Archie / Re: Classic Betty & Veronica is BACK for $2.99
« on: February 16, 2018, 03:04:12 PM »
I can't wait for this. I miss Dan Parent. I'm not crazy about the artwork in Betty & Veronica Vixens. I thought it would be better.

Yeah, I did too, based on the cover artwork by Eva Cabrera. Her cover art seems a lot better than her interior artwork -- or is it just me?

Starting with issue #3, she seems to have switched from that weird...whatever it was from the first two issues to a more anime-inspired style. The girls' clothes and hairstyles are no longer retro either. I think it's an improvement.

Given the way it's being written, I can't quite figure out how it can NOT be retro. It's sort of like some 1950s-style movie about "girls gone wild", but then they have computers, smartphones and social media. Women still have the same basic social status and are treated like they would have been in the 1950s (or maybe that's just how Jaime Rotante actually sees things). A pretty weird parallel universe that doesn't resemble our 21st century at all, except that they share some of the same technology.  I didn't actually notice any change in the art between #2 and #3, but I guess I'd have to pull them both out and compare them side-by-side.

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All About Archie / Re: "The Archies" will end with issue #7
« on: February 16, 2018, 01:29:45 PM »
I can't say I'm surprised, although I've really enjoyed the book.  It's probably weak sales that's ending it (I haven't looked up the sales), but it also could be because after they got The Monkees and Blondie, they weren't able to get any more well known "guest" bands to appear in the book. 


I can't imagine what the future is for the RIVERDALE comic title because while I've actually been pleasantly surprised by the quality of the stories, Thomas Pitilli's art is horrible in that book in my opinion.

Enough to compile into a trade paperback, which is the usual performance of any new floppy title. That goes for the ones I like as well as the ones I don't. JUGHEAD managed to get three, so for ACP it did much better than average.

Only two titles seem to have escaped that fate (so far): ARCHIE and RIVERDALE. Since Riverdale is still on TV and popular, I guess it'll last a little longer than most of the others.

I agree with you about Pitilli, but Eisma isn't much better, and there really hasn't been a new Archie artist except for Derek Charm that I thought was outstanding. Adam Hughes and Audrey Mok are both good artists, but it'll never matter to me if I don't care for the way the stories are written, because I'm never going to buy it just to flip through and look at the drawings. Apart from Derek Charm's issues of JUGHEAD, I haven't bought a single one (except for a few cover variants I really liked by Gisele, Dan Parent, and Mike Allred -- JOSIE #1, RIVERDALE #1, and The ARCHIES #4). Either I don't like the artwork, or I don't like the writing, or both. The ARCHIES might not have been too bad (judging by #4) if Charm or Mok drew it, because it's not horribly written (except for the one-shot). It just needed to be a little funnier... and the artist could have helped out with that, too.

The obvious and smart thing to do here if ACP would like to have 3 other comic books every month that sell as well as ARCHIE, is to publish ARCHIE every week instead of every month. Not another Archie spinoff title... ARCHIE. They just have to hire 3 more artists to do it, but it would seem not to matter since the artist drawing the book isn't what's selling it, and those people who like it will buy it regardless of whether that artist is Fiona Staples, Thomas Pitilli, Joe Eisma, or Audrey Mok. It should be a snap for Waid to write it, because he can easily write 4 scripts a month, particularly simple ones where there isn't a lot happening in any one particular issue, like ARCHIE. The problem is that for Waid to do that, he'd have to stop writing his other titles for other publishers. He's not going to be giving up a paycheck from Marvel for AVENGERS, which is one of Marvel's Top Two selling titles right now, for "Archie money".

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All About Archie / Re: Classic Betty & Veronica is BACK for $2.99
« on: February 16, 2018, 11:07:37 AM »
I can't wait for this. I miss Dan Parent. I'm not crazy about the artwork in Betty & Veronica Vixens. I thought it would be better.

Yeah, I did too, based on the cover artwork by Eva Cabrera. Her cover art seems a lot better than her interior artwork -- or is it just me?

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General Discussion / Re: What comics have you been reading?
« on: February 16, 2018, 06:38:43 AM »
02-09-18 to 02-15-18:
KYRRA: ALIEN JUNGLE GIRL TP
Akihiro Yamada's LOST CONTINENT #1-6 (of 6)  [Eclipse Comics, 1990]
Yukito Kishiro's BATTLE ANGEL ALITA Deluxe Edition HC VOL 01
Shigeru Mizuki's KITARO VOL 05: KITARO THE VAMPIRE SLAYER
DRAGONS RIOTING VOL 08 (of 9)
SAINT SEIYA: SAINTIA SHO VOL 01
ACTION COMICS #997
TITANS #20
WONDER WOMAN #40
DEADMAN #4
(of 6)
DETECTIVE COMICS #974

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All About Archie / Re: Classic Betty & Veronica is BACK for $2.99
« on: February 16, 2018, 05:30:59 AM »

Ok there may also be some grandmothers buying digests from Walmart and grocery stores who like the classic stories they read in the 60s/70s. .

Some, maybe. You're reading them (even if buying them digitally)... are you a grandmother? If that's really the main demographic, then why aren't the digests primarily filled with B&V stories from the 1960s and 1970s, for the gratification of grandmothers and ?

Instead, most of the reprinted stories are from the 1990s through 2010 or so. My guess would be that the girls who read those stories when they were new are now the young women and mothers purchasing the merchandise for themselves, or the digests for their daughters (and maybe some of those 40+ male parents too).


I'm more of an occasional digest reader these days though I have read a lot in the past. I think the only reason they use the 90s and 00s stories is because they're already digitized and easy to reprint. A lot of the older 60s-80s stories which the grandmothers really want aren't digitized and would have to be re-colored. A lot more work for ACP who would rather make a cheap easy profit. I think the grandmothers buy the digests hoping for 1-2 of those older stories.

I'll allow that the content may be influenced by the amount of digitizing work necessary -- yet at the same time, in order for the company to derive the maximum value out of its library of older content, it seems inevitable that all of that work MUST be slated for digital conversion at some time in the near future, if for no other reason than to provide the greatest potential to exploit ALL possible consumers in the demographic spectrum, regardless of the format in which those reprints will eventually appear. I think (and recent trade collections lead me to believe this is already happening) that those older stories will eventually appear in more expensive reprint formats, aimed at older readers with more disposable income.

I'd strongly suspect that the selection of content for the digests is specifically slanted towards younger readers, so as to not include so many older stories where various topical aspects of the story may alienate those younger readers or puzzle them by its unfamiliar references, fads or fashions. That's also why I think it's an ongoing concern to maintain a stream of newly-produced stories which will eventually feed into future digests, because even the currently-reprinted digest stories from recent decades continue to age, and will eventually be less palatable to younger readers.

There are a couple more observations I can make in support of my contention that the main audience of digest readers is composed of children. Now, the counter-argument here would be that at $7 a copy, kids aren't going to be wandering into stores by themselves with enough loose pocket money to purchase a Jumbo Comics digest for themselves -- adults remain the holders of the purse-strings, the enablers/approvers of their kids' reading of Archie digests, probably based on their own past experience having read them as kids. But I don't think those same parents are (for the most part) reading the digests themselves. For one thing, I notice in reading the new lead stories that they are written slightly differently, aimed slightly lower than was the case in reading the stories printed in new issues of the classic floppy comics prior to 2015 when they were discontinued in favor of the New Riverdale reboots. Second, for a while the larger digests issues were, for a couple of years there, including on a semi-regular basis the older 1950s stories (for the benefit of the grandmothers and other adult readers) labeled as "From the Vault" sections, in an obvious attempt to try to appeal to older readers, but for the last few years now those sections have disappeared -- which I can only interpret as because they didn't result in selling more copies of digests to adults, and the kids really didn't care that much for them. Thirdly, the policy of editorial tampering/alteration of the original stories when reprinted in the digests remains in effect, now as ever before. Adults can easily spot these obvious alterations, whether they're done for purposes of political correctness or for reasons of updating some archaic reference to technology, etc. and if those adults were the main readers of the digests, I don't think the editors would bother. It's just extra work for the production department, and the adult readers really don't like to see it. While I think most adults are generally in support of the idea of a racially diverse Riverdale, seeing token incidental characters randomly chosen to be re-colored in older stories as representing different races and ethnicity really isn't something most adult readers want to see, regardless of their own family genealogy. And adult readers don't need references to VCR tapes or other outdated technology clumsily re-lettered in dialogue balloons and captions, either. We accept it only with the understanding that it's being done for the younger readers, to make the stories seem a little more ethnically inclusive or less distracting by archaic topical references, for their benefit. -- but otherwise find the policy abhorrent to our sensibilities of wanting to read the stories just as they originally appeared in their first appearances in various comics. And they're still wasting valuable page space in all those digests printing those "puzzle pages" -- does ANY adult actually DO those puzzles? I have to assume they're still in there only because the kids seem to like them, and that means most of the reading audience.

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General Discussion / Re: How many comics do you own?
« on: February 16, 2018, 04:08:02 AM »
I've been pondering the idea of collectors and collecting for a few years now, and what it is that motivates me and other collectors. There seem to be a few different psychological components to the collector mindset, which may differ somewhat among individuals. There's a definite obsessive-compulsive aspect that compels a person to focus their thoughts and energies into collecting, but it seems to start with a emotional component, an attachment to things which is sentimental and/or nostalgic. A person's unique sense of aesthetics and personal identity are a big part of it as well, and the desire to surround ourselves with objects which are representative of our inner selves -- we are what we like or enjoy.

From the publishers' perspective, there's been a growing awareness of the usefulness of using marketing to create or stimulate consumerism to collectors ever since the mid-1960s, and since the late 1980s, that type of consumer, the collector, has become the most important core audience. You see it reflected all the time in things like cover blurbs proclaiming "First Issue Collector's Item!". That's true as well of "chase collectibles" like variant covers (if it's harder to find, it might be worth having). Even the fact that comic books are numbered in a series -- it wasn't always so, and 1940s comics sometimes bear no issue numbers on the cover, but only a volume and issue in the fine print of the indicia on the interior of the book. Like they used to say on the back of trading cards, "One in a series - collect them all!" There's a certain disposition on the part of publishers to invoke a learned Pavlovian response, creating a likelihood of impulse purchasing, and establishing a habit pattern. Mostly what they refer to that as, in general terms, is "branding" -- in the hopes that familiarity will create the hoped-for urge stimulating purchases, that a positive name-association invokes predisposition to purchasing. "Continuity" is another factor which has been used and well-worked to stimulate consumerism, among publishers... the idea that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, and that you (the consumer) wouldn't want to miss something vitally important in the scheme of a larger "saga" or story universe. That is often seen in cross-title story events which have a title banner indicating that the comic book is part of a larger arc (which you NEED to have). These started out as the "blockbuster movie" analogs of the comic book world, in order to stimulate sales in a slow season, but now they appear with regularity from the larger publishers on a several-times-a-year basis.

Of course different collectors are oriented differently. My own predilection is toward a strong focus on the graphic storytelling medium, and to a specific aesthetic appreciation of the work of particular writers and/or artists (as opposed to focusing on characters to the exclusion of everything else). This probably explains why I don't get too excited about movies or television shows based on comic book characters. I tend not to connect with those, because when I look at it what I see is "the hand" behind it -- a bunch of actors in costumes. Comics seem purer as a medium because they are the product of fewer hands, and thus less dilute when considering a creator's vision. I like Batman, but am less inclined to be a consumer of "all things Batman" (or of "all things Archie"), and more likely to focus on collecting "Dan Parent" or "Dan De Carlo". The more the work seems to express the personal idiosyncrasies of the creator in question, the better -- those are the creators who stand out as strong individuals because of their styles and preferred themes or characters.

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General Discussion / Re: How many comics do you own?
« on: February 15, 2018, 11:45:36 AM »
I don't really collect.  I consume and pass them along or donate them.  Of course there are some faves that I keep, like some Archie hardcover anthologies and some my favorite trades, like The Best of Archie or The Best of Betty and Veronica. 

I think that's the best outlook. The whole "collecting" thing can mean different things to people, but to me, you SAVE a comic book really only for one reason -- because you enjoyed it when you first read it, and might want to enjoy reading it again sometime in the future. Rather than seeing a collection as a physical record of the size of the comics mountain that you've climbed -- as the pile gets larger, you need to hone your critical instincts (as well as your sense of practicality) to weed the best from the worst, because as the pile keeps growing, you're never going to have the time to re-read the worst. That sounds easy to do in practice, but as you go along your interests and appreciation of different types of comics expands (or at least mine did) to become more eclectic, so there are always "new discoveries" (meaning things that were always there, you just failed to look for them -- or AT them), not just "new issues". That's what Archie Comics were for me, since I was far beyond the age where I should have "discovered" a sudden appreciation of them. They were always right there, but I very seldom glanced in their direction, until one day....

Having said that, to quote Alice... "I give very good advice, but I very seldom follow it."

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General Discussion / Re: How many comics do you own?
« on: February 14, 2018, 06:14:57 PM »
I don't really know. Definitely more than 1586, but (probably) less than 90000. For the last 20 years or so, I've tended to purchase fewer and fewer floppy comics, and more and more large/expensive comics (trade paperbacks & hardcovers). Some of those HC omnibus editions can have several hundred pages. It hardly seems fair to count 1 Archie 1000-Page Comics Digest as being worth the same as 1 floppy Archie comic with 20 pages of story, so as you begin to really accumulate great piles of different types and formats of comics, the whole numbers game becomes a little meaningless. Does a digital comic count the same as a printed comic?

What's probably more relevant than the number of comics you own is how many pages of comics you've read. Whether you own them or not isn't that big a deal. It's nice until you begin running out of space.

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All About Archie / Re: Classic Betty & Veronica is BACK for $2.99
« on: February 14, 2018, 03:30:40 AM »

Ok there may also be some grandmothers buying digests from Walmart and grocery stores who like the classic stories they read in the 60s/70s. .

Some, maybe. You're reading them (even if buying them digitally)... are you a grandmother? If that's really the main demographic, then why aren't the digests primarily filled with B&V stories from the 1960s and 1970s, for the gratification of grandmothers and ?

Instead, most of the reprinted stories are from the 1990s through 2010 or so. My guess would be that the girls who read those stories when they were new are now the young women and mothers purchasing the merchandise for themselves, or the digests for their daughters (and maybe some of those 40+ male parents too).

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All About Archie / Re: Classic Betty & Veronica is BACK for $2.99
« on: February 13, 2018, 01:47:06 PM »
I'll definitely be buying this digitally. Comic book stores are too much of a hassle for most people. Also I don't think Betty and Veronica's main audience is young girls. I think it's mostly men 40+, those who have nostalgia for them as sex symbols and commission Dan and Fernando to draw pin ups.

Probably true enough if the format is that of a printed floppy comic book, because those 40+ males still overwhelmingly make up the backbone of the average comic book shop's consumer demographic.

On the other hand, digest sales are so negligible through comic shops that they aren't even large enough to be included at the bottom of the lists of reported sales numbers in comic book stores. Yet someone is buying those digests (and the B&V digests' sales actually improved in recent years, as proven by the B&V FRIENDS digest's increased publication frequency since the end of the previous ongoing B&V floppy comic book). So that means there are a lot of "invisible" Betty & Veronica readers who are getting their B&V fix outside the comic book shop market. I would bet that that larger audience isn't mainly composed of 40+ males buying the digest titles in bookstores and supermarkets -- and what little merchandising of the characters over the past ten or twenty years exists, seems to bear out the existence of a largely female audience. https://www.bettyandveronica.com/

It should also go without saying that the pre-teen girl B&V readers won't be among those commissioning original artwork from Dan & Fernando. Artist commissions really can't be taken as representative of anything, apart from their having a devoted core fan following. Clearly there's a huge gap between that group and the number of readers needed to support a printed comic book's continued publication. If that weren't true, then there would be no need to Kickstarter a Die Kitty Die comic -- they could simply have published it through one of the established comic book publishers from the outset.

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