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#1
Quote from: Jabroniville on November 26, 2022, 01:40:43 AM
Quote from: DeCarlo Rules on November 07, 2019, 12:21:29 AMSeems like it's ignoring everything after LIFE WITH ARCHIE #1 (i.e., all of "The Married Life" stories written by Paul Kupperberg). I like the art (well, except for Dan's decision that an older Archie should have a huge jaw in order to distinguish him from teenage Archie), but it's still too soon for me to pass final judgment on it as a story. I plan to re-read the whole thing in one sitting sometime after the last issue is released (or I might just wait for the TP), and maybe I'll have a clearer feeling about it by then. Clearly it's not a sequel to the run of LIFE WITH ARCHIE as written by Kupperberg, though. Having re-read the whole prior Married Life story fairly recently, both the strengths and flaws inherent in that series became a lot more obvious to me. After reading the whole thing again, I revised my initial opinion downward in terms of plot and story continuity, but felt like where it stood out was in terms of character interaction scenes and dialogue (only possible where you have a lot of pages for that kind of stuff).

That said, the story doesn't have anywhere near the same room to breath as the original LIFE WITH ARCHIE magazine, and the plot is necessarily compacted to fit into six standard-sized floppy comic issues -- which amounts to the same as only THREE magazine-sized issues of The Married Life, so it's hardly fair to compare one to the other as a complete series, either. Then again, I can recall the same sort of complaints about the final B&V story arc by Uslan and Parent. Either one is still miles better than what we're getting in the current ongoing ARCHIE title and miniseries like SABRINA.
I'm curious what you think the flaws were. Apologies if the re-read is now too long ago for you to remember XD.

I found that it had definitely gone off the rails at some point (I believe during a writer switch) and sometimes the two universes weren't different enough to really justify having both stories. It was neat seeing Little Ambrose and others return, though :).

The only writer switch in THE MARRIED LIFE (or LIFE WITH ARCHIE magazine, if you prefer) was at the very beginning, where issue #1 is the setup written by Mike Uslan -- and immediately after that, it's Paul Kupperberg for the follow-up through the rest of the series.

The major flaw is a lack of any general plan or direction (until looming cancellation forces one upon Kupperberg; i.e. "The Death of Archie"). The pendulum swings wide with Mr. Lodge initially as the seeming villain, and then (as things take a distinct turn towards more of a harder SF theme) seemingly Dilton Doiley... but then Kupperberg backs away on the SF angle (perhaps due to reader reaction?) shortly after launching a meandering plotline featuring Veronica's lost plane crossing into the Bettyverse. Sure the various twists kept readers on tenterhooks from issue to issue of the magazine, but read as a whole there's no real plot structure overall. Various characters' threads get lost in the miasma in the latter half.

ARCHIE: THE MARRIED LIFE 10th ANNIVERSARY has Mike Uslan back in the driver's seat again, but this time it's "10 Years Later" after the original "ARCHIE MARRIES..." (ARCHIE #600-606), and while incorporating some of Uslan's ideas from LIFE WITH ARCHIE Magazine #1, goes off on completely different tangents than Kupperberg's story did.
#2
While the preponderance of clues do indicate the AMB timeline, it does make me wonder if they were completely consistent about that or if they messed up by putting something in there that could only have indicated the AMV timeline.
#3
Somehow Archie Comics' policy of messing around with history has always escaped the wrath of the Time Variance Authority. And the Time Police, too... isn't that supposed to be their job?
#4
All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
September 05, 2022, 01:46:44 PM
The two writers who seem to be on the same wavelength to the extent that you might not guess who wrote which story are Bill Golliher and Dan Parent. Those two started out together 35 years ago, and worked so closely with each other so often, that it's not too surprising that they think alike.
#5
All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
September 02, 2022, 12:19:24 PM
Ah, ok I get it now... the complaint is she should have called him Juggers.

But even so, it seems to me that most secondary characters that amount to anything at all, only do so in the hands of their original creator. Like... I wouldn't expect Craig Boldman to suddenly turn in a story featuring Veronica's cousin Marcy and have it feel authentic, either.

I get the feeling with the recent re-appearances of a lot of lesser-seen characters that it's just the editor deciding on which characters will be featured, then handing out the assignments to whoever's available. Rather than it's an idea the writer came up with on his own -- which you have to admit, would be a lot easier to believe if Dan Parent was writing a new cousin Marcy story, or Craig Boldman was writing a new Trula story.
#6
All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
September 01, 2022, 09:43:51 AM
Quote from: PTF on August 30, 2022, 02:41:39 AMMy only complaint is that she never called him Juggers

But she DID call him Juggers... that nickname was entirely the invention of Craig Boldman. Many people call him "Jug" or "Juggie" for short, but ONLY Trula calls him "Juggers". I'd have to check, but that might even go all the way back to Trula's first appearance in JUGHEAD (1987 series) #89.
#7
All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
August 29, 2022, 11:31:13 AM
For the record, I consider any Trula Twyst story NOT written by Craig Boldman to be at best of negligible importance, if not an entirely alternate-universe (as in the case of Big Ethel Energy) version of the character. Fortunately, Boldman has recently written a couple of new stories for Archie Comics, but it's actually kind of hard to write a new Trula Twyst story that reveals any new aspects of her character (and Jughead) in a mere 5 pages.

That's true of many of the less-seen characters, too. You can't get into any complex plots (never mind complex character development) with a strict limit of 5 pages per story, so that limits the kinds of stories you can tell now in "traditional style" Archie stories. I miss the days when they could expand, at their discretion, a story for up to 22 pages.
#8
All About Archie / Re: Trula Twyst (Jughead's nemesis)
August 28, 2022, 01:26:10 PM
Quote from: beatman10 on August 21, 2022, 08:56:13 AMI think Jughead has some power over Trula if he really wanted to use it. That is, simply by ignoring her. Maybe Archie Comics could do a story on that and how Trula's reaction would be.

The way Jughead's mind works though, is that he'd be immediately worried if his attempt to ignore Trula resulted in zero response from her (which is just how she'd play it).... and the more he continued to ignore her and she continued to not respond in any way, the more it would vex and frustrate Jughead, because he would certainly conclude that her non-response to his ignoring her meant that she was biding her time secretly calculating (and maybe even carrying out, without him being aware of it) even more sinister mind games with him in mind. And unfortunately, that is how Jughead thinks. Trula can well afford not to obsess over him if she doesn't want to, but Jughead isn't capable of that -- the only thing he's really capable of is pretending to ignore her, because in reality when she seemingly does nothing, that's when he's most worried about what she might do next.
#9





But of course you'll have to sort out the source of each story title yourself. Looks like a fairly representative line-up with a small selection of stories spanning each of the various eras. Looking forward to this one!

#10
Sure... Ophelia became Big Ethel, and Lottie Little became Midge Klump.

In Archie Comics, there are a lot of characters that are used as prototypes, with minor tweaks, for later characters. In WILBUR you had Alec, who with a minor tweak becomes the later Alexander Cabot III; just as Alexandra and Alex from JOSIE are prototypes (with minor tweaks) for Cheryl and Jason Blossom.
#11
Through the Decades / Re: Alas, poor Jughead...
July 21, 2022, 09:32:24 AM
Quote from: PTF on July 11, 2022, 10:48:56 PMWell, maybe Archie listens to at least one reader. I like Trula Twyst and I like Bingo Wilkin. So, um...let's try bringing back Regina Mantle! :)

Hey, they're doing a return visit to Mirrordale, so can Reversedale be that far behind? That one (ARCHIE 636) was written by Tania Del Rio, and they've gotten her to write a couple of new ones recently... it would be neat if they could get Giselle Lagace to draw a new story.
#12
Through the Decades / Re: Alas, poor Jughead...
June 28, 2022, 09:35:22 PM


This issue is indeed packed with Jughead reprints, or at least Archie stories in which Jughead plays a major role -- but most of them are genuine Jughead stories. First we have an all-new Jughead story by Craig Boldman and Rex Lindsey, which feels just like a reprint of one of their old stories, but isn't. Then there's a new THAT WILKIN BOY story by Craig Boldman and Jeff Schultz (in which Jughead puts in an appearance in 3 panels). Essentially what we have here is a JUGHEAD JUMBO COMICS DIGEST in which his name doesn't appear in the cover logo.  :)

#13
Through the Decades / Re: Alas, poor Jughead...
June 20, 2022, 03:14:14 PM
Hey, I didn't know about this!

Apparently BarnesandNoble.com released a series of 23 different Archie Comics 80th Anniversary digital exclusive one-shots.

#15
Quote from: beatman10 on June 15, 2022, 09:37:09 PMI had interpreted what Uslan meant in the interview is he had written an actual ending showing only one of the "Archie Marries" timelines will be "canon" and the other one is a "fantasy".  And like a lot of other fans of these stories, I tried to find any clues that Mr. Uslan may have left. Like, why did Archie look so distraught near the end of the Veronica timeline when he went for his Christmas Eve walk? He had money, family and his marriage to Veronica seemed pretty solid. We'll probably never know the answer and maybe we're not supposed to.

Yeah, I don't know how anything in the future can be deemed "canon"; all future stories are possible futures. It would only be canon if it got an ongoing series. And maybe not even then... Is January McAndrews "canon"? Or just a descendant of Archie in some possible future?

And I don't know how either one (Archie marries Betty or Archie marries Veronica) can ever become canon, because it's automatically divisive and alienates half the readers... and they sure don't want that. Even when the premise of "Archie Marries" became the ongoing title LIFE WITH ARCHIE, each universe is equally true and valid... and so are the ones they didn't show (or even think of) until later, like "Archie Marries Valerie".