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Acejughead

hey hey hey
« on: January 06, 2017, 09:45:56 pm »
I found a link to this forum off Tumblr and I'm super excited to see such an active Archie Fandom!!!
I love the old comics but the new comics are really great! (As you can probably guess from my username I am super psyched that the newer comics confirmed that Jughead is asexual)

I heard there's going to be a Riverdale TV show and I'm really excited! I'm not usually a fan of "gritty" shows but I'm willing to watch anything Archie Comics puts out. Nice to meet y'all!

Archiecomicxfan215

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2017, 11:25:02 pm »
Welcome, hope you enjoy your time here 8)

Captain Jetpack

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2017, 09:58:59 am »
Decades of heritage, & bold new frontiers for the Archie Gang!
Welcome.  8)
Pie is my favorite Vitamin.

SAGG

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2017, 12:08:12 pm »
Welcome!  :)

DeCarlo Rules

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2017, 10:51:54 am »
It took me a while to get that. "Ace"-X-you-all.

gillibean

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2017, 06:20:30 pm »
Welcome  ;D

steveinthecity

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2017, 05:58:58 pm »
I found a link to this forum off Tumblr and I'm super excited to see such an active Archie Fandom!!!
I love the old comics but the new comics are really great! (As you can probably guess from my username I am super psyched that the newer comics confirmed that Jughead is asexual)

I heard there's going to be a Riverdale TV show and I'm really excited! I'm not usually a fan of "gritty" shows but I'm willing to watch anything Archie Comics puts out. Nice to meet y'all!
Why does "asexual" even matter?  He's a 16 year old goofy kid. Draw some "X's" on his hand.  He's probably straight edge, too.

The upcoming show has little to do with traditional Archie, but I'm sure you've figured that out by now.

Welcome to the boards, by the way. Help us make this place more active. :)
Comics!

Acejughead

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2017, 08:52:15 pm »

Why does "asexual" even matter?  He's a 16 year old goofy kid. Draw some "X's" on his hand.  He's probably straight edge, too.


It, uh, may not matter to you, but it matters to me. There isn't much asexual representation, so it's really encouraging to see characters with my orientation being accepted by the people around them, along with so many Jughead readers.
It shows people like me that being asexual isn't weird or wrong, that we shouldn't sacrifice who we are to find acceptance.

Also I'm not quite sure what you meant by drawing "X's" on his hand???

DeCarlo Rules

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2017, 11:06:26 pm »

Why does "asexual" even matter?  He's a 16 year old goofy kid. Draw some "X's" on his hand.  He's probably straight edge, too.


It, uh, may not matter to you, but it matters to me. There isn't much asexual representation, so it's really encouraging to see characters with my orientation being accepted by the people around them, along with so many Jughead readers.
It shows people like me that being asexual isn't weird or wrong, that we shouldn't sacrifice who we are to find acceptance.

Also I'm not quite sure what you meant by drawing "X's" on his hand???

Jughead has always been weird. That's what's kept him interesting all these years. Now granted, he's a comic book character, so in a sense he'll always be eternally sixteen. But at sixteen, it's a little soon to start labeling people as this or that, because a lot of things can change between sixteen and adulthood. Just because he's a certain way at sixteen doesn't mean he'll never ever change.

Acejughead

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2017, 01:19:44 am »

Why does "asexual" even matter?  He's a 16 year old goofy kid. Draw some "X's" on his hand.  He's probably straight edge, too.


It, uh, may not matter to you, but it matters to me. There isn't much asexual representation, so it's really encouraging to see characters with my orientation being accepted by the people around them, along with so many Jughead readers.
It shows people like me that being asexual isn't weird or wrong, that we shouldn't sacrifice who we are to find acceptance.

Also I'm not quite sure what you meant by drawing "X's" on his hand???

Jughead has always been weird. That's what's kept him interesting all these years. Now granted, he's a comic book character, so in a sense he'll always be eternally sixteen. But at sixteen, it's a little soon to start labeling people as this or that, because a lot of things can change between sixteen and adulthood. Just because he's a certain way at sixteen doesn't mean he'll never ever change.

Sorry, to clarify: Jughead is wonderfully weird, I meant that it is not his asexuality that makes him weird.

Regardless of the age it is suitable to "label" someone, Jughead is a fictional character. His identity is whatever his author decides it should be. So Jughead, in this iteration at the very least, is definitely asexual, and always will be - because Zdarsky and North have labeled him as such. So there's not much point in pointing out his age, because a sixteen year old was not the one who decided his orientation.

spatzi

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2017, 06:09:16 am »
Anyway, I love how Jughead is canonically asexual. And how it's perfectly possible for someone to know their sexuality even at 16. But acejughead thank you for being so reasonable and good in your responses.

DeCarlo Rules

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2017, 12:07:44 pm »

Why does "asexual" even matter?  He's a 16 year old goofy kid. Draw some "X's" on his hand.  He's probably straight edge, too.


It, uh, may not matter to you, but it matters to me. There isn't much asexual representation, so it's really encouraging to see characters with my orientation being accepted by the people around them, along with so many Jughead readers.
It shows people like me that being asexual isn't weird or wrong, that we shouldn't sacrifice who we are to find acceptance.

Also I'm not quite sure what you meant by drawing "X's" on his hand???

Jughead has always been weird. That's what's kept him interesting all these years. Now granted, he's a comic book character, so in a sense he'll always be eternally sixteen. But at sixteen, it's a little soon to start labeling people as this or that, because a lot of things can change between sixteen and adulthood. Just because he's a certain way at sixteen doesn't mean he'll never ever change.

Sorry, to clarify: Jughead is wonderfully weird, I meant that it is not his asexuality that makes him weird.

Regardless of the age it is suitable to "label" someone, Jughead is a fictional character. His identity is whatever his author decides it should be. So Jughead, in this iteration at the very least, is definitely asexual, and always will be - because Zdarsky and North have labeled him as such. So there's not much point in pointing out his age, because a sixteen year old was not the one who decided his orientation.

Well, the writer can think whatever he wants, but I wonder what's the point of blabbing that he's asexual all over the internet, if he isn't going to put the words into Jughead's mouth? And though the writer may be Jughead's "voice" currently, NOBODY wants to be labeled, unless it's a self-declarative statement of identity. But so far, I've seen no such thing in the comics.

Not only has Jughead not declared himself "asexual and proud" (or whatever) to his friends, but as readers we haven't even been given a peek into his private thoughts that indicates that this is the way he thinks of himself. Because that's the only thing that's important here with these labels -- the ones people decide to stick on themselves (even fictional characters) as some sort of statement of intent. He may not be displaying any interest in sex or romance now, but he hasn't exactly issued any manifestos stating that he never ever will be interested in those things, or that his mind is made up and unchangeable. I mean, isn't that the whole point of these labels? "Gay", "Straight", "Bi", "Asexual"... It's like a permanent condition, it's not something you do for a while before you change your mind and switch labels to something different. I say permanent, but with asexuality it's how everyone starts as an infant. It's pretty hard to say that someone is asexual, unless that's what they declare themselves to be, because ALL of us at one time lived through a time of our lives when we weren't interested in sex or romance, but it's a extremely variable phase for each individual, so someone who isn't interested in those things at 12 could be at 15, and someone else might not be interested at 16 and could be at 19. So the only way asexual is going to apply to Jughead is if it's a conscious choice of Jughead's that he has decided to label himself as identifying that way. I've seen a lot about what he thinks of hamburgers, but nothing about that.

Without that, all we've got for concrete evidence is "Oh, didn't you hear? The new writer of Jughead definitely says he's writing him as asexual", which seems like a pretty wishy-washy commitment to an idea to me.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2017, 12:59:12 pm by DeCarlo Rules »

Acejughead

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2017, 08:39:10 pm »

Why does "asexual" even matter?  He's a 16 year old goofy kid. Draw some "X's" on his hand.  He's probably straight edge, too.


It, uh, may not matter to you, but it matters to me. There isn't much asexual representation, so it's really encouraging to see characters with my orientation being accepted by the people around them, along with so many Jughead readers.
It shows people like me that being asexual isn't weird or wrong, that we shouldn't sacrifice who we are to find acceptance.

Also I'm not quite sure what you meant by drawing "X's" on his hand???

Jughead has always been weird. That's what's kept him interesting all these years. Now granted, he's a comic book character, so in a sense he'll always be eternally sixteen. But at sixteen, it's a little soon to start labeling people as this or that, because a lot of things can change between sixteen and adulthood. Just because he's a certain way at sixteen doesn't mean he'll never ever change.

Sorry, to clarify: Jughead is wonderfully weird, I meant that it is not his asexuality that makes him weird.

Regardless of the age it is suitable to "label" someone, Jughead is a fictional character. His identity is whatever his author decides it should be. So Jughead, in this iteration at the very least, is definitely asexual, and always will be - because Zdarsky and North have labeled him as such. So there's not much point in pointing out his age, because a sixteen year old was not the one who decided his orientation.

Well, the writer can think whatever he wants, but I wonder what's the point of blabbing that he's asexual all over the internet, if he isn't going to put the words into Jughead's mouth? And though the writer may be Jughead's "voice" currently, NOBODY wants to be labeled, unless it's a self-declarative statement of identity. But so far, I've seen no such thing in the comics.

Not only has Jughead not declared himself "asexual and proud" (or whatever) to his friends, but as readers we haven't even been given a peek into his private thoughts that indicates that this is the way he thinks of himself. Because that's the only thing that's important here with these labels -- the ones people decide to stick on themselves (even fictional characters) as some sort of statement of intent. He may not be displaying any interest in sex or romance now, but he hasn't exactly issued any manifestos stating that he never ever will be interested in those things, or that his mind is made up and unchangeable. I mean, isn't that the whole point of these labels? "Gay", "Straight", "Bi", "Asexual"... It's like a permanent condition, it's not something you do for a while before you change your mind and switch labels to something different. I say permanent, but with asexuality it's how everyone starts as an infant. It's pretty hard to say that someone is asexual, unless that's what they declare themselves to be, because ALL of us at one time lived through a time of our lives when we weren't interested in sex or romance, but it's a extremely variable phase for each individual, so someone who isn't interested in those things at 12 could be at 15, and someone else might not be interested at 16 and could be at 19. So the only way asexual is going to apply to Jughead is if it's a conscious choice of Jughead's that he has decided to label himself as identifying that way. I've seen a lot about what he thinks of hamburgers, but nothing about that.

Without that, all we've got for concrete evidence is "Oh, didn't you hear? The new writer of Jughead definitely says he's writing him as asexual", which seems like a pretty wishy-washy commitment to an idea to me.

Sorry, but I don't really see why you're trying to sort of debate this with me when you clearly either A) Haven't been reading the new Jughead comics? (Where he specifically talks about being asexual in multiple issues - occasionally not using the word "asexual" but he shouldn't need to repeat it when the readers and characters already know) or B) Are uninformed about about sexuality and orientations (also I realized I was asexual - as in I found out that there was a word for how I have always felt - in middle school and am currently in college, I have never experienced romantic or sexual attraction in any form and I have no medical conditions that would "make me asexual" so 16 is definitely not too young. My best friend has identified as heterosexual since I met her in 1st grade, and no one ever told her it was "too soon" for her to label herself just some food for thought)

If you've got questions about asexuality or how they are displaying that in the comics, feel free to ask! But I'd really prefer you didn't try to push me into this position of needing to "prove" things that have already been discussed by the author, as well as in canon. Sorry!

apple

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2017, 09:12:13 pm »

Without that, all we've got for concrete evidence is "Oh, didn't you hear? The new writer of Jughead definitely says he's writing him as asexual", which seems like a pretty wishy-washy commitment to an idea to me.

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steveinthecity

Re: hey hey hey
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2017, 10:01:04 pm »

Without that, all we've got for concrete evidence is "Oh, didn't you hear? The new writer of Jughead definitely says he's writing him as asexual", which seems like a pretty wishy-washy commitment to an idea to me.

Image result for jughead asexual
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"X's" and "straight edge"?  Now I feel marginalized.  I'll confer with folks on Reddit to see if I should be offended
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